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    • I'm still pondering/ trying to find docs re the above issue. Moving on - same saga; different issue I'm trying to understand what I can do: The lender/ mortgagee-in-possession has a claim v me for alleged debt. But the debt has only been incurred due to them failing to sell property in >5y. I'm fighting them on this.   I've been trying to get an order for sale for 2y.  I got it legally added into my counterclaim - but that will only be dealt with at trial.  This is really frustrating. The otherside's lawyers made an application to adjourn trial for a few more months - allegedly wanting to try sort some kind of settlement with me and to use the stay to sell.  At the hearing I asked Judge to expedite the order for sale. I pointed out they need a court-imposed deadline or this adjournment is just another time wasting tactic (with interest still accruing) as they have no buyer.  But the judge said he could legally only deal with the order at trial. The otherside don't want to be forced to sell the property.. Disclosure has presented so many emails which prove they want to keep it. I raised some points with the judge including misconduct of the receiver. The judge suggested I may have a separate claim against the receiver?   On this point - earlier paid-for lawyers said my counterclaim should be directed at the lender for interference with the receiver and the lender should be held responsible for the receiver's actions/ inactions.   I don't clearly understand that, but their legal advice was something to do with the role a receiver has acting as an agent for a borrower which makes it hard for a borrower to make a claim against a receiver ???.  However the judge's comment has got me thinking.  He made it clear the current claim is lender v me - it's not receiver v me.  Yet it is the receiver who is appointed to sell the property. (The receiver is mentioned/ involved in my counterclaim only from the lender collusion/ interference perspective).  So would I be able to make a separate application for an order for sale against the receiver?  Disclosure shows receiver has constantly rejected offers. He gave a contract to one buyer 4y ago. But colluded with the lender's lawyer to withdraw the contract after 2w to instead give it to the ceo of the lender (his own ltd co) (using same lawyer).  Emails show it was their joint strategy for lender/ ceo to keep the property.  The receiver didn't put the ceo under any pressure to exchange quickly.  After 1 month they all colluded again to follow a very destructive path - to gut the property.  My account was apparently switched into a "different fund" to "enable them to do works" (probably something to do with the ceo as he switched his ltd co accountant to in-house).   Interestingly the receiver told lender not to incur significant works costs and to hold interest.  The costs were huge (added to my account) and interest was not held.   The receiver rejected a good offer put forward by me 1.5y ago.  And he rejected a high offer 1y ago - to the dismay of the agent.  Would reasons like this be good enough to make a separate application to the court against the receiver for an order for sale ??  Or due to the main proceedings and/or the weird relationship a borrower has with a receiver I cannot ?
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    • You could send an SAR to DCbl on the pretext that you are going for a breach of your GDPR . They should then send the purported letter of discontinuance which may show why it ended up in Gloucester and see if you can get your  costs back on the day. It obviously won't be much but  at least perhaps a small recompense for your wasted day. Not exactly wasted since you had a great win  albeit much sweeter if you had beat them in Court. But a win is a win so well done. We will miss you as it has been almost two years since you first started out on this mission. { I would n't be surprised if the wrong Court was down to DCBL}. I see you said "till the next time" but I am guessing you will be avoiding private patrolled car parks for a while.🙂
    • It is extremely disappointing that you haven't told us anything about the result of the hearing. You came here at the very last minute and the regulars - all unpaid volunteers - sweated blood trying to get an acceptable Witness Statement prepared in an extremely short time. The least you could have done is tell us how the hearing went, information invaluable for future users. Evidently not.
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

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I am so sad to read how you are feeling about this but please don't give up.... Swift have made my life a misery too and continue to do so. So many people have gone to the OFT and the FSA individually but are not getting the help, support or justice they need. This is criminal when you conside that the FSA has pocketed a fine of over 600,000 from them for their misconduct. We have to all do this together and take class action. That way, we can get the legal help we need and if necessary take the company to the European courts.

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I sent for my Accurial Account too. Rang u and they sent it within 3 days. Maybe they're starting to panic!! Also look at your interest whether it's compounded or simple (Look in the column marked simple) The law on this changed in 2008 and only simple interest could be charged. Try & find an accountatnt who will go through it for you with a fine toothcomb.

 

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Thanks for that info Pam. I spoke to a litigation manager at swift yesterday who said that the 'problem' with my account was in fact the compound interest. So that is very helpful and I will follow up.

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hi everyone

 

I am in a similar boat, I took out a loan in 2007 with swift for £10,000 now ten years later and £17,000 later they are still demanding I pay £24,000 or hand over my home. I am a singe parent with 5 children.

 

I am now considering taking them to court to fight this all the way.

 

I want to know if anyone has ever took swift on and won a case on misconduct or otherwise.

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hi everyone

 

I am in a similar boat, I took out a loan in 2007 with swift for £10,000 now ten years later and £17,000 later they are still demanding I pay £24,000 or hand over my home. I am a singe parent with 5 children.

 

I am now considering taking them to court to fight this all the way.

 

I want to know if anyone has ever took swift on and won a case on misconduct or otherwise.

 

What is it you feel is the issue? Many people have taken Swift to court and they will fight every case fully unless they are 100% in the wrong and even then they will stretch you.

 

Get yourself some proper legal advice before going anywhere near a court with them. Within the terms of your loan you will find that they can add the costs of their defending claims to your loan. Any action you take against them will be met by them taking advice from expensive barristers and adding that cost to your loan which in turn attracts contractual interest.

 

There are many many people who have had a considerable amount of costs added to what is already an expensive loan, so be very careful.

 

There are many groups of people stripping Swift and their practices apart and Swift are a well oiled machine in getting all their legal costs paid for whilst their customers struggle to meet their payments - if you take them on - you are likely to lose your home, be warned and be very careful because they are without moral compass.

 

I would suggest you google Swift Advances and follow links to a number of forums, including this one who have been fighting for a long time to get justice, but it is very slow and Swift are as slippery as a can of worms. I speak from experience and if you have no experience in court you will lose, even if you are right as the courts and barristers can twist things better than Chubby Checker and Swift know how to work the system.

 

Whatever you do, avoid missing payments or ensure you have some kind of payment plan set up to not give them any opportunity to kick off litigation.

 

I would apply, if you do not have every document, for a Data Subject Access Request to get a record of all your initial application documents from them and records, statements etc. Get copies of your brokers documents.

 

Start a new thread for yourself on Cag and put a link to it here so people can follow what you do and try to assist, but please do not go off on your own against these people because I guarantee you will lose more than just a court case.

 

People have gone deeply into Swift and lost many thousands of pounds in legal costs and still lost their homes. If you have equity, they'll have it, not your children so be very careful.

 

I personally cannot get involved in helping on here much, I've had my day and can't get involved again, all I can do is warn you to be extremely careful and I know an awful lot of Swift Account holders who have come to the forums to get help, far more than most.

 

Read as much as you can about them before going anywhere near them with legal threats. It bounces off them like water on a ducks back and they'll just look at your equity and lick their lips with joy.

 

I wish you luck, but try and get out of their grips by some kind of refinancing and if the appetite allows, come back at them from the outside once they no longer hold a grip over you.

 

They are asset lenders of the worst possible kind.

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