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Just wanting a little advice guys please..

 

I took out an unsecured loan with these numptys back in 2007 for £2500.

 

I have paid back £201 each month on time and I want to see if I am owed any charges they have robbed me of

 

. I have sent my SAR today and when it comes back I will have a good scan through it, but I just need to know once ive highlighted all the charges I think are unfair how do i calculate what they owe me?

 

i have read through posts on here and my maths is decent but I just need to know how I work these charges out thats all,

 

Thanks in advance!

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Hiya guys,

 

To cut a long story short took a loan out with these sharks back in december 2007 for £2500 over 3 years £201 a month - i know!!! :!: I have paid back over 7 grand with looks of it!! Stupid and young!

 

Anyway should have been paid off in December 2010 but they are still taking £201 from DD! hmm so I have just rang and he said its my arrears - not convinced over this. I paid any arrears I had with them last year by paying them £402 per month twice and my accoount manager said I was then out of arrears and back to normal.

 

The chap I spoke to says hes only taken this account over a few month ago, couldnt really explain why im still paying just kept saying its because of my arreas. He said I had missed a payment Aug 10 but looking at my good old online banking, it shows i paid on the 2nd of august and at the end of august !!! He also offered me a settlement figure of £700!! Cheek! He also said I owed charges for telephone calls etc and thats also why im still paying ??? I requested a SAR last week but they are due to take a DD at end of Feb - I dont wanna give them anymore of my hard earned cash , can anyone please help..

 

Thanks all Tink

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Hi Tink. If it was me I would cancel the DD. This is outrageous how they hell are they still saying you owe so much after you have paid over three times you borrowed.

When you get back the SAR it will show what charges have been made and you can reclaim them with interest.

Did you take out any of their lovely insurances? Welcome have been known for adding insurances or saying that you had to have the insurances to have the loan, if so you may find that these were miss sold.

 

Hopefully one of the bigger hits (postgj & dx100) will come along and give you some more advice

 

JJ

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I did indeed take out all their lovely insurances! Cant wait to get my SAR back and work out what I can try claim.

Yeah the cheeky bugger on the phone said to me "this is an expired loan we are doing you a favour by not demanding the £700 now" :!:

 

Been on online banking seems I paid £400 on 3 seperate occasions instead of the £200. I have let them get away with so much! Im going to cancel my DD and I have sent them a letter today!

 

I said to the chap how can you offer me a settlement figure when ive paid over 7 grand to you and he said "you were aware out interest rates were high"!! Cant wait to get my SAR back.

 

I just hope I dont cave in when they receive my letter and see my DD has been cancelled! Thank you so much for your help and advice though - makes it easier to fight them with everyones support :) Tink

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If you are going down the cancel way I would also contact the bank and make sure that they know not to allow any more DD to be paid to them. If you have ever paid them via your card I would also 'lose' them so they can't try to take money that way.

Hopefully when you get the SAR back and gone through it you might be in for a windfall

 

JJ

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Yeah I hope so - they are so patronising on the phone aswell - not communicating with them this way anymore. I dont understand where they get off speaking to people as they do.

Im sure they wont pay up easily but I have misplaced my orginal credit agreement so waiting for my SAR to come so I can add up some figures. Ill keep checking my DD to make sure they dont set one up off their own back!

I just dont understand where they have this extra £700 from.. Not so good with calculating interest and stuff so hopefully someone will be kind enough to help out when I get my documents.. Tink

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There is a very good spreadsheet on here where you put in the date and the charge and it works out the interest.

As you may know that Welcome are in real trouble and trying to screw as much money out of their remaining paying customers.

I luckily got out of my car finance in September but they tried chasing me for £5.85 (yes £5.85) even got their High Risk Department onto me. Took me a couple of months to prove they were wrong.

I would also send them a CCA request and a telephone harassment letter so they don't keep ringing you when they find out that the DD has been cancelled.

 

JJ

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£5.85 they have some cheek dont they! Dont think they are going to go easy on me then for the £700!

Yeah I have the telephone letter thanks just incase they start to get on my nerves - which of course they will!

Never thought about the CCA request though, suppose its worth it for £1!

Ill have to have a look around for the spreadsheet! Sounds good..

Thanks for your advice, I dont want to pay them another penny! Tink :)

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I sent my letter recorded Tuesday clearly stating I will only speak to them in writing and they are starting to phone me.

What is wrong with them. Why are they unable to understand a simple letter.

Shall I just dig out the telephone template on here or are they just going to ignore that too!

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Last week I sent welcome the telephone and home visit templates and they signed for them.. In the meantime they have sent me a settlement figure out for £700 and have phoned me 4 times.. Im still awaiting my SAR I requested about 2 weeks ago..

I really dont want to end up answering the phone to them because I know im a wimp over the phone but I really dont want them turning up at the house!

Can anyone please help me :| any advice at all is really appreciated!

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Hi, Are they ring from the same number,if so some phone companies may be able to bar these numbers. If not just answer the phone don't say anything,place phone down on the side (preferably next to the tv or the radio so they can hear something) and go and do something more important than speak to these low lifes.

 

Just out of interest have you checked to see if you payment for your SAR has been cashed?

 

JJ

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Yeah its from the same number which is the local branch.

They sent me a letter 2 days after I sent my SAR request saying thanks for the payment and they are processing SAR for me..

I cant really do anything until I get the SAR back and see where they have got these crazy arrears from. I suppose I can then look at claiming back PPI aswell..

So in the meantime just carry on ignoring the calls - seen as though they are ignoring my letters? and of course not pay them a penny?

Thanks Tink : )

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I cant believe they have just turned up out of the blue unannounced at my house!!!!

 

Im not late with any payments I am just ignoring their calls! I have paid them £201 every month for the last 3 years for a £2500 loan!

 

My loan finished in December and they still say I owe them 700 in arrears which I am pretty sure I dont.

 

They are due to take a payment at end of feb which I cancelled my DD so its not even as though im late paying and they have come to my house, my younger brother answered and told them I was in the bath which I was at the time and they handed him a letter stating my arrears and told him to tell me to ring them..

 

Is this actually allowed? I consider this as harressment!!!

 

Any help would be grateful..

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Hi

If they discussed the arrears with your brother thenthey are guilty of a breach of the Data Protection Act and if the letter they gave wasn't in an envelope they are also guilty.

 

Look at section 4 here

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/content.php?609-Can-t-find-the-letter-you-want-Look-here

 

What are the arrears? Late payment charges? If so you can get them back or taken off the loan

If you are asked to deal with any matter via private message, PLEASE report it.

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hey i feel a reclaim coming on....and i bet you've got all manner of insurance bolted on too as 'you had to have it to get the loan approved..........'' WRONG!!!

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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hiya, thanks for replying. Im currently in the telephone queue for WF complaints. Im fuming... No sorry, the letter was in an envelope and the just told my brother to tell me to ring them.

 

They state im in arrears for 700/800 and when I spoke to someone last week he couldnt even tell me why.. He just said some are charges etc..

 

Why should I pay them more money when they cant even tell me what I owe it for. I didnt want to speak on the phone but im so angry..

 

Yeah dx ppi is on there im awaiting SAR at minute before I send that off so I know my figures but in the meantime they have decided to pay me a visit!!

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then they owe you

 

i wouldn't bother with the phone either.

 

writing ONLY.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Not that it did any good ringing them they said I 'have' to speak to my branch manager - which i do not want to he is so patronising.

 

I asked if the reason im in arrears can be posted to me and she said 'theres a £10 fee" argh look at your records ive paid the £10 2 weeks ago and im still waiting for my documents. Then she ended with 'ill get your branch to call you" I dont even want to speak to them, does it look like im going to have to?

 

Ive sent letters all recorded during the last week and no reply.. I dont want to speak them but I dont want them coming to my house again :|

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When (if) they ring you just refuse to go through security. They cannot continue the call. Just state "In writing" and hang up

If you are asked to deal with any matter via private message, PLEASE report it.

Everything I say is opinion only. If you are unsure on any comment made, you should see a qualified solicitor

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just an update for everyone interested incase you are coming to the end of your loans...

 

they rang again and I heard her out, she looked on computer to see where these arrears had come from, came back 5 minutes later saying there was nothing on the computer that was jumping out at her and she couldnt see why I had arrears herself, although she wanted me to make a payment still at the end of the month until the dispute was sorted :nono:

 

She also said she had requested my statement to be sent to the branch so she could look through it and shed some light. So when I ring head office they cant deal with me I must speak to my branch, when I ring my branch they have to request statements in... ?!

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