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    • ps i doubt the PCN says macdonalds?? MET dont operate a reverse trespass car park for mc'd's parkers going to starbucks...(occupants left vehicle claim) they only do that for the starbucks part  i bet you parked in the starbuck side and walked to MCd's? dx    
    • it is NOT A FINE.....this is an extremely important point to understand no-one bar a magistrate in a magistrates criminal court can ever fine anyone for anything. Private Parking Tickets (speculative invoices) are NOT a criminal matter, merely a speculative contractual Civil matter hence they can only try a speculative monetary claim via the civil county court system (which is no more a legal powers matter than what any member of Joe Public can do). Until/unless they do raise a county court claim a CCJ and win, there are not ANY enforcement powers they can undertake other than using a DCA, whom are legally powerless and are not BAILIFFS. Penalty Charge Notices issued by local authorities etc were decriminalised years ago - meaning they no longer can progress a claim to the magistrates court to enforce, but go directly to legal enforcement via a real BAILIFF themselves. 10'000 of people waste £m's paying private parking companies because they think they are FINES...and the media do not help either. the more people read the above the less income this shark industry get. where your post said fine it now says charge .............. please fill out the Q&A ASAP. dx  
    • Well done on reading the other threads. If ECP haven't got the guts to do court then there is no reason to pay them. From other threads there is a 35-minute free stay after which you need to pay, with the signs hidden where no-one will read them.  Which probably explains why ECP threaten this & threaten that, but in the end daren't do court. As for your employer - well you can out yourself as the driver to ECP so the hamster bedding will arrive at yours.  Get your employer to do that using the e-mail address under Appeals and Transfer Of Liability.  
    • good you are getting there. Lloyds/TSb...i certainly would not be risking possible off-setting going on if a choice were there, but in all honestly thats obv too late now..., however..you might not never be in that situation so dont worry too much. regardless to being defaulted or not, if any debt that is not paid/used in 6yrs it becomes statute barred. you need to understand a couple of things like 'default' and 'default notice' a default is simply a recorded D in the calendar section/history of a debt, it does not really mean anything. might slightly hit your rating. the important thing here is a default notice , these are issued by the original creditor (OC) under the consumer credit act, it gives you 14 days to settle whatever they are asking, if you don't then they have the option to register a defaulted date on your credit file. that can make getting other credit more difficult. and hits your rating. once that happens, not matter what you do after that, paying it or not or not paid off or not, the whole account vanishes from your credit file on the DN's 6th b'day. though that might not necessarily mean the debt is not still owed - thats down to the SB date above. an OC very rarely does court and only the OWNER of a debt can instigate any court action (Attempted a CCJ) DCA's debt collection agencies - DCA's are NOT BAILIFFS they have ZERO legal powers on ANY debt - no matter what it's TYPE. an OC make pass a debt to a dca as their client to try and spoof people into paying through legal ignorance of the above statement. an OC may SELL on an old debt to a DCA/debt buyer (approx 10p=£1) and then claim their losses through tax write off and their business insurance, wiping their hands of the debt. the DCA then becomes the debt OWNER. since the late 70's dca's pull all kinds of 'stunts' through threat-o-grams to spoof a debtor into paying them the full value of the debt, when they bought if for a discounted sum (typically 10p=£1). you never pay a dca a penny! if read carefully, NONE of their letters nor those of any other 'trading names' they spoof themselves under making it seem it's going up some kind of legitimate legal 'chain' say WILL anything....just carefully worded letters with all kinds of threats of what could/might/poss happen with other such words as instruct forward pass... well my dog does not sit when instructed too...so... DCA's SOMETIMES will issue a court claim, but in all honesty its simply a speculative claim hoping mugs wet themselves and cough up...oh im going to court... BIG DEAL DCA - show me the enforceable paperwork signed by me...9/10 they dont have it and if your defence is conducted properly, most run away from you . however before they do all that they now have to send a letter of claim, cause the courts got fed up with them issuing +750'000PA speculative claims and jamming up the legal system. so bottom line is two conclusions.... if you cant pay a debt, get a DN issued ASAP (stop paying it!) make sure it gets registered on your file then it stops hurting your file/future credit in 6yrs regardless to what happens (bar of course a later DCA CCJ - fat chance mind!)  once you've a registered DN , then look into restarting payments if the debt is still owed by the OC, if SOLD to a DCA, don't pay - see if they issue a letter of claim (then comeback here!).        
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hi can anyone advise

 

i got a letter from triton credit about an ex girlfriend who got me as an joint account holder on her rbs account

 

was with her for about a year, (this was 6yrs ago). triton wrote to me saying i owe nearly £4k about her account which i never had a card and never used the account

 

i can prove i havent been with her for 6yrs so my question is shes obviously run up this debt, ive never spent the money or had a card to do so and wasnt with her when she did run up the debt

 

whats my liability?

 

thanks

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hi

i wrote to lowell recently requesting the cca for a debt

 

i know they have 12days to reply, this was over a month ago they keep writing saying there asking lombard for the original, does t really take this long and what is the 12day rule for anyway

 

any advice wud be appreciated

 

thanks

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Hi,

 

A debt becomes unenforceable under the CCA if a creditor does not supply a true copy of the signed credit agreement within 12 working days of it being requested.

 

The debt remains unenforceable for as long as the creditor fails to produce the signed credit agreement – this means if they produce the agreement some months down the line, they are quite within their rights to enforce it. They do not need to take any further action to enforce the debt. A debtor cannot take any action against the creditor for failing to produce the signed credit agreement within the prescribed time, because that is up to the agencies that the offence has been reported to. Any sanctions that may be imposed are at the discretion of these agencies, and it is not a matter that the debtor can take to the civil court.

Any advice I give is honest and in good faith.:)

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Hi JH,

 

Lowells are out of time, send them the account in-dispute letter and ignore all threatograms that they send to you until they comply.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/content.php?436-Failure-to-provide-a-copy-of-the-agreement-within-the-prescribed-timescale.

 

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thanks for your advice,

 

i got another letter today (260311) from lowell again!!! stating they are waiting from lombard to get the cca from their archives,

thats about 4 letters in the last month!!,

 

if they sold the debt to lowell surely they would have had to give them the cca otherwise

what proof is there that i have a debt with them...

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The Original Creditor will hold the CCA, what was the debt.

Any advice I give is honest and in good faith.:)

If in doubt, you should seek the opinion of a Qualified Professional.

If you can, please donate to this site.

Help keep it up and active, helping people like you.

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original credit was with a car finance place called yes! car credit,

 

which i beleive was underwritten by lombard..

 

.it was 247permonth for 4yrs

 

paid it for 2yrs without missin a payment

 

but due to personal reasons, could not afford it anymore,

so i handed the keys back to them,

 

they sold the car and said i still owe £2k on a car which at the time was worth about £2k

even after i had paid nearly £6k in payments already!!! plus the sale of the car!!!..

 

.god only know what the interest was,

 

this happened about 7yrs ago.

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hi

i got a letter from 1st credit saying i owe 6500 to lombard, now i know i have had a car loan with lombard 10yrs ago and paid if for 4yrs then defaulted due to losing my job

 

and i have sent 1st credit a letter stating i believe it is SB but my question is, is the mere fact of me sending a letter stating it is SB an acknowledgement of the debt, even tho im 100percent sure no money has been paid for 6yrs, any advice would be grateful, thanks

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If you are sure no money has been paid and it has not been acknowledged for 6 years then it is Statute Barred, you cannot un-Statute Bar it. They have every right to ask for the money as the debt still exists, and you have every right to say no I'm not paying it - there is nothing they can do.

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I would check your files and bank statements first, whilst waiting for a second letter from 1st Crudit. Then you can decide what, if anything, you send them. Personally I would ignore them.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Just to help others always head this type of letter with

I DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE ANY DEBT TO YOUR COMPANY OR ANY COMPANY YOU CLAIM TO REPRESENT

And refer to the matter as "aledged sum owed", or some such wording

Please note i have no legal training any advice i give comes from my own experience and from what i have learned on this site

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would just like to say that lowell financial have sent me a letter saying they are closing an account that they cannot get a cca for!!, still believe it never existed in the first place...will keep the letter in case the vultures resurface in the future

 

cant believe some of these dca are so blatently forward with their demands even when it cant be proved!!!...modern day dick turpins!! they really are....

 

great site,a lot of excellent advice and well worth joining,thanks

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Hi guys, got two letters from 1st credit and one from lcs solicitors (acting for 1st credit)....now they say they brought my debt from lombard which i maintain is statutue barred, which they seem to completely ignore!.....ive asked for cca which they say they will contact lombard for but my question is how can they chase me for a debt without documentation in the first place, do lombard ring em and say. Hey guys ring up mr smith (not real name) and threaten him with this that and the other as he owe us money!!....

 

They must have some information from lombard in the first place to write to me or do they jus make it up.....any advice wud be grateful thanks

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sounds like you are on a phishing list

 

pers i'd ignore them if you are confident its sb'ed

 

continuing to contact these fleecers just puts markers on your file that a mug awaits fleecing.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Also if it is SB then you really should be complaining to the OFT/TS/FOS and your local MP.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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