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Careless, I know, but I have absolutely no idea how much my bank has taken in charges in the past 5 or 6 years (which is it? I live in Scotland).

 

Will they send you details if you simply call/ email or should I go into writing for this also?. If in writing, is there a template available requesting a detailed breakdown?

 

 

ps....it would be handy if they would either email or burn details on a CD in a spreadsheet as my charges will be too frequent to type!!!

 

Many many thanks for your advice.

 

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Hello and welcome,

 

Sounds like you haven't read the FAQ's yet. Start by reading them here:

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/faqs-please-read-these/

 

The letter templates you’ll need are here:

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bank-templates-library/

 

And guidance notes are here:

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/guidance-notes/

 

Finally start a thread in the bank forum relevant to you. That way you can keep a timeline of your progress and receive help and support where needed.

 

Best of luck with your claim.

 

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S.A.R, prelim and LBA sent

Claim acknowledged

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Woolwich - £2288

S.A.R, prelim and LBA sent.

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I am hearing conflicting information about the system in Scotland...

 

Is the qualifying period 5 or 6 years?

 

and

 

Does the small claims court have a limit of £1000? If so, I'm not sure what to do as I reckon my claim could be around £3K

 

HELP PLEASE!!!!!

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Thanks for the pointers to the relevant templates guys. Have now sent the letter to the bank asking for details of charges.

 

This is all new to me (the whole forum thing) so thanks also for your patience

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OK, so after reading and getting advice from other forum members, I went into the bank yesterday and handed over the DP form requesting full details of charges over the past 5 years. They are charging me £20 as I have 2 accounts...Is that right? They will debit the amount from ny account.

This morning, a letter arrived (1st class) which was partially hand-written, not dated and did not have a post office frank over the top of the envelope. The letter said they wrote to me to arrange a banking "review" recently as they feel it could have been of great benefit to me...etc...etc. If I would like to make an appointment please call. The thing is, I never received that letter in the first place.

Just a coincidence???? Has anyone else received this?

I'm not sure whether to:

a) make an appointment

b) write saying that I will do a review once current "enquiries" are resolved

c) Ignore it

 

Any advice will be great.

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Yeh they must only charge you £10 as it is a personal "subject" request you being the subject not the individual accounts. I think i have heard about this account review thing before, this is something Natwest do as well. Its up to you really but personally i feel from other threads people aren't attending these meetings as the account is in dispute and don't feel they should attend until the dispute is over and some people have written back saying that any diologue should be entered in writting and not in person.

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Ok, so I think I'll write to RBOS thanking them for their invitation for a "review" I will however decline in the short term, pending ongoing enquiries etc etc.

 

Probably a good idea to do this in writing instead of calling. Must admit, cant wait to see my statements so I can calculate how much I have paid over the past 5 years. I reckon it will be scary!!!:eek:

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Do I understand this right???

When informally asking for my money back - I ask for full amount (c£3k)

AT LBA - Seek only £750 including interest and costs

At Legal - same as LBA

 

or

Do I stay with the full amount for the LBA?

 

Thanks

 

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Maybe its just a coincidence, but just went onto digital banking and it will let me see current balances, but nothing else......no history, no transfer facility. Strange.

 

Also, I live in scotland and my bank (RBOS) is in Scotland. Can I still claim in England? Any advice would be great.

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So to clarify.......I live in Scotland, my account/ branch is in Scotland. I can however send my prelim/ LBA to an english branch of RBS and claim 6 years back through money claim, using a friend/ relative's address which is in England/ Wales???? Is my understanding right?

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Noticed that SAR fee had not been debited from my account so called local branch to check progress. I was told that the enquiry had been forwarded to their office in Gogarburn (???). Will hopefully get a call back today.

 

Does anyone know the answer to my question on which courts you can use, ie English/ Scottish?

 

JB

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I can see that a lot of people are looking at taking on H/BOS in England. Can we do the same with RBOS as I dont know if they have a head office in England? I know I can do the RBS C/C through the English court system.

 

If I can, then its woohoooo!

 

Just waiting for the accounts to come back from Gogarburn. Then plan is to take the claim South. Has anyone had success doing it this way?:?

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Im not entirely sure on that one either, but I think because you live in Scotland and your bank has a registered address in Scotland you will need to claim through the Scottish courts as they have juridstiction.

 

The Review thing is a waste of time, they usually do it if your going overdrawn a lot or something, you go to the review and they basically try and sell you a loan.

 

As for your earlier questions, When writing to the bank you claim back the whole amount, giving them a list of all the charges and dates they were taken (that includes the LBA).

 

At the legal / court stage you will need to split your claim up into £750 chunks.

So you would file one claim for "Charges - December 2001 - March 2003" etc etc.

You'll have to file like 4 claims to cover the whole amount, but you'll get any fee's you have to pay back when your claim is settled.

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24/08/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - Statements Received

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23/09/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - Offer received £1544 (Thanks but no thanks)

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Its now 3 weeks since I handed in my SAR at the branch. Still not a peep. Should I give them more time or send them a little "reminder" that the clock is ticking? Is anyone else getting a quicker response to RBOS SAR

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30/11 - CC statements received

31/11 - Prelims issued - RBS paying up, only M/C to go)

 

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Give them a call and ask them what the progress is.

I got mine in about 3 weeks.

01/08/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - S.A.R sent

24/08/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - Statements Received

31/08/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - 1st Request sent

13/09/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - LBA sent

23/09/06- Royal Bank of Scotland - Offer received £1544 (Thanks but no thanks)

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Hi John,

 

As far as I'm aware, the small claims court limit in Scotland is £750. It all depends on whether you file your claim with a Scottish court or an English court. Obviously, if you live in one or the other country you will more likely than not need to file with that country's court system.

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reload's mum vs Barclays - £745 owed. £375 partial settlement reached 17/10/06.

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OK, nearly 4 weeks and no response to S.A.R - (Subject Access Request). I know they've got another 2 weeks, but I thought I would send them a little nudge.

 

Royal Bank of Scotland

27 September 2006

 

 

 

Data Protection Act 1998

 

 

 

Subject Access Request

 

 

Dear Sir/Madam

ACCOUNT NUMBERS: xxxxxxxx and xxxxxxxx (sort code 83-25-45)

 

I handed in the above request at my local branch on Friday 1 September 2006. At that time, I gave 40 days notice to reply and, whilst that time has not yet expired, I have heard/ seen nothing. I trust that this matter is in hand and is being dealt with at the moment.

The latest date for receipt of this information is 11 October 2006 and I thought I should write a brief reminder to ensure that this matter is processed in a timely manner, and to avoid any breach of your obligations under the Data Protection Act.

I look forward to hearing from you in early course

 

Yours faithfully,

Me

 

sent to branch and Gogarburn. Ever get the feeling that this is going to be strung out as long as humanly possible?

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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz still nothing ( I know I am impatient). Still, while waiting I have been wondering about the interest rate and whether to go after contractual interest and notify the bank at Prelim stage:rolleyes: . I noticed one or two people getting contractual rate. Note that I am being greedy, but 20 odd % does sound tastier than 8%; no?;-)

 

Any advice would be loverly. Ta.

 

J

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I too have been considerin the higher interest rate! Afterall if they can charge us, for example for being over our overdraft limit that they caused through charges, Why shouldn`t I have the extra contractual interest. They gave me undue stress I recieve extra interest as an apology for said stress.

 

Still I am not fully read up on the contractual interest situation as yet so have not formlly made a decision, but gosh it sounds like the right thing to do!!

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Got the statements through this morning and will get to work with the highlighter when I get home tonight. It will be interesting to see how much has been taken off me in the last 5 years (sounds sad, but I hope its a lot! - could do with the dosh for Christmas):grin:

 

J

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30/11 - CC statements received

31/11 - Prelims issued - RBS paying up, only M/C to go)

 

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Not as much as I hoped for, but still just north of £2K. Hope it gets as far as court stage as I will then get about another £400!!!

 

Anyway, Prelim off recorded delivery today, sent to Retail Regulatory Risk division. Shame they are not based in Glasgow, as their initials would then be GRRR! (which is exactly how I feel)

 

Oh well, 14 more days of fun till the next deadline!

 

J:)

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8/11/06 - claim settled

17/11 claim #2 started - incl creditcard

30/11 - CC statements received

31/11 - Prelims issued - RBS paying up, only M/C to go)

 

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What address did you send your Prelim to? I have searched this site and there seems to be a few different addresses, also some people sending to thier branch???

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13/10 - Prelim sent, 19/10 - Sod Off letter recvd, 27/10 - partial offer received, 27/10 - rejection letter sent, 3/11 - SETTLED IN FULL

Cheltenham & Gloucester (ERC's)

21/11 - Prelim sent, 26/11 - sod off letter recved, 2/12 - LBA sent, 10/12 SETTLED IN FULL!!

 

 

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