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    • Hi, In my last post I mentioned I had received an email from SS who were asking me to hand over the keys to my mother’s flat so they could pass them to the Law firm who have been appointed court of protection to access, secure and insure my mother’s property.  Feeling this, all quickly getting out of my hands I emailed ss requesting proof of this. I HAVEN’T HEARD BACK FROM SS.  Yesterday, I received an email (with attached court of protection order) from the Law Firm confirming this was correct (please see below a copy of this).  After reading the court of protection order I do have some concerns about it:   (a)   I only found out yesterday, the Law firm had been appointed by the court back in January.  Up until now, I have not received any notification regarding this.  (b)   Section 2   - States I am estranged from my mother.  This is NOT CORRECT    The only reason I stepped back from my mother was to protect myself from the guy (groomer) who had befriended her & was very aggressive towards me & because of my mother’s dementia she had become aggressive also.  I constantly tried to warned SS about this guy's manipulative behaviour towards my mother and his increasing aggressiveness towards me (as mentioned in previous posts).  Each time I was ignored.  Instead, SS encouraged his involvement with my mother – including him in her care plans and mental health assessments.   I was literally pushed out because I feared him and my mother’s increasing aggression towards me. Up until I stepped back, I had always looked after my mother and since her admission to the care home, I visit regularly.   .(c)    Sections -  4, 5 and 7  I am struggling to understand these as I don’t have a legal background.  I was wondering if there is anyone who might be able to explain what they mean.  It’s been a horrendous situation where I had to walk away from my mother at her most vulnerable because of; ss (not helping), scammer and groomer. I have no legal background, nor experience in highly manipulative people or an understanding of how the SS system operates, finding myself isolated, scared and powerless to the point I haven’t collected my personal belongings and items for my mother’s room in the care home.  Sadly, the court has only had heard one version of this story SS’s, and based their decision on that. My mother’s situation and the experience I have gone through could happen to anyone who has a vulnerable parent.    If anyone any thoughts on this much appreciated.  Thank you. ______________________________________________________  (Below is the Court of Protection Order)  COURT OF PROTECTION                                                                                                                                                                                   No xxx  MENTAL CAPACITY ACT 2005 In the matter of Name xxx ORDER Made by  Depty District Judge At xxx Made on xxx Issued on 18 January 2024  WHEREAS  1.     xxx Solicitors, Address xxx  ("Applicant”) has applied for an order under the Mental Capacity Act 2005.  2.     The Court notes (my mother) is said to be estranged from all her three children and only one, (me) has been notified.  3.     (Me) was previously appointed as Atorney for Property and Affairs for (my mother).  The Exhibity NAJ at (date) refers to (me) and all replacement Attorneys are now officially standing down.  4.     Pursuant to Rule 9.10 of the Court of Protection Rules 2017 and Practice Direction 9B the Applicant 2must seek to identify at least three persons who are likely to have an interest in being notified that an application has been issues.”  The children of (my mother), and any other appointed attorneys are likely to have an interest in the application, because of the nature of relationship to (my mother).  5.     The Court considers that the notification requirements are an important safeguard for the person in respect of whom an order is sought.  6.     The Court notes that it is said that the local authority no longer has access to (my mother’s) Property.  7.     Further information is required for the Court to determine the application.  IT IS ORDERED THAT  Within 28 days of the issue date this order, the Applicant shall file a form COP24 witness statement confirming that the other children of (my mother) and any replacement attorneys have been notified of the application and shall confirm their name, address, and date upon which those persons were notified.  If the Applicant wishes the Court to dispense with any further notification, they should file a COP9 and COP24 explaining, what steps (if any) have been taken to attempt notification and why notification should be dispensed with.   Pending the determination of the application to appoint a deputy for (my mother), the Applicant is authorised to take such steps as are proportionate and necessary to access, secure and insure the house and property of (my mother).   This order was made without a hearing and without notice.  Any person affected by this order may apply within 21 days of the date on which the order was served to have the order set aside or varied pursuant to Rule 13.4 of the Court of Protection Rules 2017 (“the Rules”).  Such application must be made on Form COP9 and in accordance with Part 10 Rules.              
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This fund will be for people who are to scared about the financial implications on the light of the news that bank charges claims are now being moved to higher courts....... As the financial risk of losing are high this fund will support people in there challenge to reclaim therebank charges

 

I think the fund should be for a particular (one individual) fight against the banks regarding the newer arguments that have so far been untested.

 

If the funds were used to fund numerous court actions, then that would mean that multiple donations from the same people would be needed. As logic tells me instead of 20k we would need 20k x number of people going to court.

 

We don't need to fight using several people, we need to fight it using one person, then making it a standard to be used in the future for the benfit of others.

 

Sorry if I have misunderstood your posting, but that's how I read it.

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Hi Guys,

 

Could I suggest that as it is unlikely we will get all CAG members to donate that maybe we should raise the figure a little to just £2 per donation. I think this is still an affordable figure and would generate alot more revenue for this battle, because whether we like it or not it is going to take alot of money to achieve what we want.

 

This is just a suggestion that's all.

 

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Evening all,

 

What a great idea, I agree £2 is a sensible figure.

COUNT ME IN, and tell me when you want me to contribute.

 

Best wishes to all as always

 

Dougal

Update: 2013 Following our recent (9/7/13) hearing about Bank Charges at the Court of Appeal, and refusal to grant permission to Appeal; an Application has just (23/10/2013) been made for a fresh hearing and the Court Location is yet to be confirmed!

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This thread was set up as a proposal to see if members cud donate.... This site has helped thousands of people me included ...... And was set up because of bank charges...... The next step is

1. For admin and site team is to highlight this thread on cag

2. Nominate a account that the fund can be paid into

3. Regular update on fund total

4. Pick out cases in extreme cases that can set a prescedent for future cases

5. Inform people on update cases and how cases can be fought

 

but this thread can only suceed if someone on this site promotes this fund and let every member know

 

site team it's now down to you

 

many thanks

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but this thread can only suceed if someone on this site promotes this fund and let every member know

 

site team it's now down to you

 

many thanks

 

£3000 to email all members according to Bankfodder..

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Step 1 should be to decide on a game plan, with Step 4, and with admin/site team, which I don't think has yet been done, without that I can't see the fund getting off the ground.

 

Step 5 could, and should, be being done already.

 

Keep at it Jdes, doing great :)

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£3000 to email all members according to Bankfodder..

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Doesn't need an email - they have a home page, announcements, sidebars and advertising - I assume they also have facebook, twitter, they also have the ear of the press on occassion. There are also other sites which might assist. But only once a proper action plan is in place and the right people in place to run it - and if necessary the right legal bods on board.

 

It needs to be transparent, well organised and professional, if it is to get off the ground and actually assist the fight against unfair charges.

 

If admin/site team aren't keen then you have to take that as it is and keep battling away from the ground level.

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£3000 to email all members according to Bankfodder..

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Excuse me? £3,000 to email all CAG members? I think not. Who has said this and how can it possibly cost this amount to email all CAG members?

 

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Excuse me? £3,000 to email all CAG members? I think not. Who has said this and how can it possibly cost this amount to email all CAG members?

 

TheyrCriminals

 

Middenmess is right I think - I seem to remember reading this on a thread also.........just can't remember which one unfortunately

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MBNA 1 Charges - Refunded inc CI

 

MBNA 1 PPI - Refunded

 

MBNA 2 Charges - Refunded inc 8%

 

MBNA 2 PPI - Refunded

 

MBNA 2 Accident Ins - Refunded

 

Swift Advances (settled) Mortgage Charges -Partially refunded

 

Swift Advances (settled) Mortgage PPI - Refunded inc CI & 8%

 

Sainsburys (settled) Loan PPI - Refunded inc CI +8%

 

Sainsburys (closed) Card Charges - Refunded inc CI + 8%

 

M&S Money (closed) Card Charges - Refunded inc CI

 

M&S Money (closed) Card PPI - Refunded inc 8%

 

Direct Line (settled) Loan PPI - Refunded inc CI + 8%

 

Debenhams Card (closed) PPI - Refunded inc 8%

 

Swift Mortgage Charges -Refunded

 

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Hi,

 

I can see no valid reason for a generic email sent by an orgainzation to its own members costing £3000. All your paying for is electricity and one person's time!!!!!!

 

TheyrCriminals

 

Why not try and get an explanation from Bankfodder as co owner of the site?

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Hi Rebel,

 

This isn't a bad idea at all. Is there no way we could realistically get on board just one celebrity, is there not one person in the celebrity arena that would be prepared to become a public face of this campaign? If we did achieve this it would be a great catalyst for public exposure. Which celebrity isn't a huge fan of capitalism, banks or amoral profiteering?

 

TheyrCriminals

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The guy we need is Billy Bragg,

 

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/58540,people,entertainment,billy-bragg-leads-facebook-protest-against-bankers-bonuses-income-tax-deadline

 

What we need is a 5 minute outrageous sketch on Youtube, something the media would pick up on and that would make the banks

cringe. Maybe a Robin Hood theme, or Dick Turpin. Trigger peoples Conscience, for far too long have we been

sleep walking into the hand of the banks.

 

I'm sure Michael Moore could come up with something.

 

Hi Rebel,

 

This isn't a bad idea at all. Is there no way we could realistically get on board just one celebrity, is there not one person in the celebrity arena that would be prepared to become a public face of this campaign? If we did achieve this it would be a great catalyst for public exposure. Which celebrity isn't a huge fan of capitalism, banks or amoral profiteering?

 

TheyrCriminals

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