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    • Doc 04-19-2024 11-01-51-merged-compressed.pdf good morning.    9 pages attached.    thank you  UCM
    • Hi I was being supplied my ovo after unknowingly being swapped from SSE.  My issues began when we had a smart meter fitted and our bills almost doubled overnight - we at the time assumed we were just paying not enough until then and just continued to pay the excess bills each. Month.    I would from time to time contact ovo and get faced with a call centre on South Africa of the most rude agents who would just hang up after hours of wait and I could not even get an acknowledgement of an issue with my meter.  At one point we were not in the property for like 4 months and the bills were coming just as high!  It was at this point I was sure something is not right and ovo only care to send bailiffs and started threatening us with a pay as you go meter despite me taking out a 3.5k loan to pay of my outstanding balance.  Around 1600 each on both gas and electricity.  This is where its gets really bad -  the very same day they sent me out a new bill saying the money paid already was only to cover up until the November previous and because its now Feb we owe another 1k.   By that August this had risen to over 3k and I still couldn't get anyone to even acknowledge a fault let alone fix it.    In despair I tried to swap suppliers and to my surprise octopus accepted us because even tho the debt is owed we are trying deal with.  During our time with them the bill was coming only on my wife's name as I was responsible for other bills and she this one - now that we owe them 3k they have magically started adding my name as well as my wife's to the same debt to apply double pressure and its showing on my experiwn report now with a question mark and 2700 showing in grey -  This was my wife's debt which we dispute we owe yet the have now sent me letter with both our names on from oriel and past due credit debt agencies - is this illegal and how can I get them to take my. Name of this and leave on wife's name as its so unfair they give us a both a defualt for wife's debt which we dispute anyway.    In the end about 3 weeks ago I wrote an email to their ceo and rishi sunak and low and behold for the first time in our history with ovo someone who spoke English contacted us and said she will look into our claim.    I explained to her that we feel our meter is faulty and despite me contacting them using WhatsApp email and phone I still have not got anyone to acknowledge a fault even. And that I dispute I Owe anything as my son was in hospital for 3 months and we stayed with him so house was empty and still. They were sending us super sized bills more than when we started at home.  She promised to investigate and a few days later replied that she is sorry for the poor customer service and offered us £50 compensation - however she also. Mentioned that she's attached statements for us confirming the payment for 3k I made was only up until Nov and in Feb despite me pay 3.5k nearly it's correct for them to bill. Me. Another £900 the very same day and she did not agree our meter was faulty and therfore the debt stands and she will not be calling it bcak from past due credit.  During my time with my new supplier post ovo, octopus I requested tehy check my. Meters because I felt they were faulty and over charging me and I got excellent response asking me for further details which I supplied and I got a. Response bcak within days to say my meter was indeed faulty and octopus have now remotely repaired it.   I then contacted the energy ombudsman and explained my situation how she at ovo tried to fob me off and demand I apy money we don't feel we owe due to faulty equipment we reported but ovo had to process or mechanism to deal with it or lodge complaint even without having to cc their ceo and our pm. And now I feel sick to think both husband and wife will get a 6  year default for debt which have a validity of a questionable nature.    I explained all this to the energy ombudsman and they accepted my case and I explained to them that my new supplier found my fault which ovo refueed to accept - I've uploaded the email from new supplier to ombudsman showing we had a fault.    My. Question is is there anything I can upload in defence of my case to ombudsman before they decide outcome ina few weeks    All advice greatly appreciated not only would I like advice on how to clear this debt but also how I can pursue ovo for compensation and deterrence for the future.  Thansk 
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I recently purchased a fish tank online which I was informed would be delivered friday ( tomorrow ). So I rang the company involved, to ensure delivery would be Friday so that I could arrange to take delivery. The company advised me that it was dispatched Wednesday for delivery Thursday. So I arrive home from work to find it was left next door by the courier. On examining the contents I find the tank is broken.

The web site states contents should be checked when accepting parcel for obvious reasons, but courier should have been advised to deliver only to adressee. Could anyone give me some advice on my predicament.

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You are in an excellent position. You are protected by the distance selling regs and also by your contract.

 

Write them a letter sent special delivery immediately rejecting the tank and explaining the reasons.

Send the letter also by email and fax if possible so that there is no mistake. If you make calls, then record your calls. If you really can't record them then makes detailed notes - but you will regret not recording them.

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Thanks for the super quick reply BankFodder. To be fair to the web site, I am only just about to contact them by email and call them tomorrow morning. I will update tomorrow. By the way I found this site purely by accident but I think what this site is about is excellent

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could you please clarify who to send the rejection letter to. The web site or courier. here is a copy of contact note left on web site contact us sent tonight

 

Please be advised your courier delivered the cabinet & tank today (13/05/2010 )order number *** to number 42 ***** *****, as there was no one in my house, as I was advised delivery would be Friday (14/05/2010). After collecting them I proceded to put the cabinet together. After completion I proceded to open the boxed tank only to find the bottom glass to be broken.

I have a few concerns regarding this. Your web site states if no one is in to recieve delivery, it shall be taken back & I will be offered another delivery date, or if I chose I can collect direct from courier myself.

It is unreasonable for someone to inspect a delivery that does not belong to them. And on delivery of tanks for obvious reasons your courier should be advised of this.

To cut it short,I or no one from my household signed for the tank, I am not responsible for accepting delivery of a broken tank, Your courier should not have left it with anyone but someone at the delivery address. I therefore reject delivery of the tank and shall call you Friday am 14/05/2005 to discuss a resolve. If you supply me with an email address, I can supply photos of broken tank.

Also be advised I have kept a copy of this contact note for my records and I shall be sending a letter via recorded delivery an official rejection of acceptance."

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You are rejecting it with the seller. You don't have to give a reason, but you can tell them it is broken.

 

Unless their site actually says you have to pay to return it, then it is up to them to collect. If you are returning it because it is damaged, then they have to collect at their cost anyway.

 

They have 30 days to return what you paid including the delivery cost to you.

 

Would you like to pm me the website adddress so I can take a look at their terms and conditions and how it fairs up legally>

 

The rejection under DSR must be done in writing unless they say they will accept it by phone but I would still send it by hard copy anyway.

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Ok - they say that you are responsible for returning it, "You will be required to return all goods for which you have given notice of cancellation at your own expense", so you need to do it as damaged and then they have to pay the courier to return.

 

There are a few things in there that they might try on ie; "Before returning any item to xxx, you must contact us first by either phone or email within 24 hours,"

 

They also say within 7 days, but that is 7 days starting the day after receipt and it is working days so it you received it today, then you have until Mondy week to get the notice to them.

There are a few contradictory terms in there, but in general they don't seem to have tried to mislead.

 

Make sure you let us know what the reply to your email is and then we can take it from there if they dispute anything.

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Hi guys, this is the way thing have gone today. I rang retailer today to see which way we can go to resolve, to which I was treated very sympathetically, they gave me an email address to send photographic evidence of the broken tank. He rang me back after about 5 mins to let me know the courier appears to have put its hands up to delivery problem on provision of evidence of the broken tank. He also stated that it is not required for me send back the broken tank. And he was ordering a new tank which should be ready to dispatch to me next week

So this afternoon I have emailed the retailer photoes of the damage tank, photo of my reciept for tank and a photo of the couriers card stating the tank was left next door.

Also on the advice of Conniff I have sent a letter by special delivery rejecting delivery for the reasons stated previosly, just in case they are try to stall me for time.

So things are looking good and i shall update again as soon as I know more.

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Final chapter,

True to their word. the guys from the aquatic site dispatched a new tank to me today. My wife took the day off work to accept delivery. The courier shows up around 11.00am, brings the boxed tank to the door. He pleased to see my wife is in to accept delivery this time. My wife having learned lessons previous insists on checking the tank before signing. Yes you guessed right broken again. Never mind crap happens & I'm sure the courier did'nt break it on purpose. So after a couple of phone calls to the online retailer for what it's worth are based in Cardiff, if you require anything aquatic, could not be more appologetic.So I decided to put us all out of our misery. I was debited back the cost of the tank, & I agreed to keep and pay for the cabinet. I sourced one locally after work, cost an extra £25. Now my fish are happy again. If you ever get to read this Craig & Paul, good look with the business, & if I'm ever in Cardiff I'll look you's up & have a pint. Good old fashioned customer service.

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Seems they must get a lot of these tanks arriving broken at this rate. Imoaned at mine turning out about fourty pounds more expensive than found later on line. But as local firm they carried it upstairs and I was told internet firms tend to be pallet deliveries.

 

Must say though these things weigh a tonne, mines a fluval 240 I couldnt lift it.

 

Glad your fishies will be happy now xx

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