Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • I'm still pondering/ trying to find docs re the above issue. Moving on - same saga; different issue I'm trying to understand what I can do: The lender/ mortgagee-in-possession has a claim v me for alleged debt. But the debt has only been incurred due to them failing to sell property in >5y. I'm fighting them on this.   I've been trying to get an order for sale for 2y.  I got it legally added into my counterclaim - but that will only be dealt with at trial.  This is really frustrating. The otherside's lawyers made an application to adjourn trial for a few more months - allegedly wanting to try sort some kind of settlement with me and to use the stay to sell.  At the hearing I asked Judge to expedite the order for sale. I pointed out they need a court-imposed deadline or this adjournment is just another time wasting tactic (with interest still accruing) as they have no buyer.  But the judge said he could legally only deal with the order at trial. The otherside don't want to be forced to sell the property.. Disclosure has presented so many emails which prove they want to keep it. I raised some points with the judge including misconduct of the receiver. The judge suggested I may have a separate claim against the receiver?   On this point - earlier paid-for lawyers said my counterclaim should be directed at the lender for interference with the receiver and the lender should be held responsible for the receiver's actions/ inactions.   I don't clearly understand that, but their legal advice was something to do with the role a receiver has acting as an agent for a borrower which makes it hard for a borrower to make a claim against a receiver ???.  However the judge's comment has got me thinking.  He made it clear the current claim is lender v me - it's not receiver v me.  Yet it is the receiver who is appointed to sell the property. (The receiver is mentioned/ involved in my counterclaim only from the lender collusion/ interference perspective).  So would I be able to make a separate application for an order for sale against the receiver?  Disclosure shows receiver has constantly rejected offers. He gave a contract to one buyer 4y ago. But colluded with the lender's lawyer to withdraw the contract after 2w to instead give it to the ceo of the lender (his own ltd co) (using same lawyer).  Emails show it was their joint strategy for lender/ ceo to keep the property.  The receiver didn't put the ceo under any pressure to exchange quickly.  After 1 month they all colluded again to follow a very destructive path - to gut the property.  My account was apparently switched into a "different fund" to "enable them to do works" (probably something to do with the ceo as he switched his ltd co accountant to in-house).   Interestingly the receiver told lender not to incur significant works costs and to hold interest.  The costs were huge (added to my account) and interest was not held.   The receiver rejected a good offer put forward by me 1.5y ago.  And he rejected a high offer 1y ago - to the dismay of the agent.  Would reasons like this be good enough to make a separate application to the court against the receiver for an order for sale ??  Or due to the main proceedings and/or the weird relationship a borrower has with a receiver I cannot ?
    • so a new powerless B2B debt DCA set up less than a month ago with a 99% success rate... operating on a NWNF basis , but charging £30 to set up your use of them. that's gonna last 5mins.... = SPAMMERS AND SCAMMERS. a DCA is NOT a BAILIFF and have  ZERO legal powers on ANY debt - no matter WHAT its type. dx      
    • Migrants are caught in China's manufacturing battles with the West, as Beijing tries to save its economy.View the full article
    • You could send an SAR to DCbl on the pretext that you are going for a breach of your GDPR . They should then send the purported letter of discontinuance which may show why it ended up in Gloucester and see if you can get your  costs back on the day. It obviously won't be much but  at least perhaps a small recompense for your wasted day. Not exactly wasted since you had a great win  albeit much sweeter if you had beat them in Court. But a win is a win so well done. We will miss you as it has been almost two years since you first started out on this mission. { I would n't be surprised if the wrong Court was down to DCBL}. I see you said "till the next time" but I am guessing you will be avoiding private patrolled car parks for a while.🙂
    • It is extremely disappointing that you haven't told us anything about the result of the hearing. You came here at the very last minute and the regulars - all unpaid volunteers - sweated blood trying to get an acceptable Witness Statement prepared in an extremely short time. The least you could have done is tell us how the hearing went, information invaluable for future users. Evidently not.
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
        • Like
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
        • Like
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

Atos Medical Report.... what the hell!!


marie72
style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 4350 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

I had my medical assesment for ESA on 12th April. Last Friday I telephoned DWP and asked for a copy of my medical report. Well, I expected to be waiting a fair few weeks for it. I got a shock as it turned up in the post this morning.

 

It probably won't come as a surprise to anyone that there seemed to be quite a few discrepencies on there...to say the very least.

 

I suffer from bi-polar, my condition led to me loosing my job in February. Currently I am on anti-psychotic drugs as I have been in one of the worst manic phases I have ever had the 'pleasure' of experiencing. This leads me to have hallucinations and paranoid thoughts. Yes I mentioned this fact to the 'registered nurse' who did my medical. I also told her that I had seen my G.P only the week before, who told me that she wants to see me every week for the foreseeable future as I am walking a 'tightrope' in regards to my mental stability. Well, surprise, surprise.... "No hallucinations", "No paranoid thoughts" on the medical report.....

 

I had a representative from mind with me, who took notes. Of course he was told that these notes would not be allowed to be used in an appeal or tribunal before he started writing.

 

I was so upset by this report that I telephoned the DWP and told them about the misrepresentations on the form. I was then told, very coldy that I should never have been given the medical report so quickly as it hadn't even been put on the system yet. The lady I spoke to sounded very perturbed that I had effectively obtained the notes before she had.

 

I just can't believe how the DWP can get away with this.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Welcome to the Anti-ATOS club!

I don't see why your reps notes can't be used at any future review / Tribunal. They were made at the time and are relevant. Just ask your rep to date and sign them.

Good luck and best wishes.

Rae

Link to post
Share on other sites

I had a representative from mind with me, who took notes. Of course he was told that these notes would not be allowed to be used in an appeal or tribunal before he started writing.

yes the notes can be used as long as the witness comes with you to the apeal,firstly you must now send a SAR to ATOS and ask specificly for the QUALIFICATIONS of this registered nurse and is she registered with the GMC...

make sure you make your apeal as soon as possible i think kel can help you with what forms you will need for the apeal..but go for it also get your DOCTOR to submit a letter to the DWP and a copy for you to send in with your Apeal,and if you are to receive phsychiatric help then get a letter of who is treating you and for what....

patrickq1

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi, he sent me his template instead :)

 

...............................................

 

 

From: [Enter name and address]

 

To: [Enter addressee]

 

 

Date

 

Dear Sir

 

Data Protection Act 1998 - Subject Access Request

 

 

Please supply a complete list of the data held and used by you that relate to [Your name]. It is also to include third party information held with all other agencies.

 

Additionally where there has been an event in the account(s) history during the period accounts have been placed with you that have required any manual intervention by any member of your staff or any other person I require disclosure of any indication or notes which have been caused or resulted from that manual intervention.

 

I would like to bring to your attention data can be held in written information, e-mails, electronic documents, photographs, CCTV images, telephone conversations and include any recorded or written opinions about me/us and any recorded or written intentions and action taken regarding me/us.

 

I/We would like this information to be sent to my/our home address as listed above. You have 40 days in which to comply.

 

To satisfy payment to supply this information I/we enclose a fee of £10 this payment must not be used for any other purpose.

 

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

.........................................

 

 

Make sure you send it by post signed for.

Obviously this is a catch-all template. Do ensure you also include the specifics you may particularly require - ie the nurses qualifications.

Further advise was to send payment as a Postal Order as this is guaranteed payment...

Edited by RaeUK
Link to post
Share on other sites

Ok....one more question!

 

Where exactly do I need to send this letter? Any specific address? Sorry for the questions guys. I'm just totally in the dark.

 

Cheers

-Marie

Link to post
Share on other sites

Many thanks for your help again Rae, just spent the best part of today writing a letter of complaint to DWP and ATOS. I'm far from subtle though and am worried it might be a bit 'sarcastic'. Not that I've got anything to be sarcastic about mind you, regarding my medical assesment.......;)

Link to post
Share on other sites

Always feel free to post up your letter - excluding any personal identifying bits - and we'll help your draft if needed. That's what I tend to spend a lot of time doing over on the Bailiff forum. If it can be usefull here, why not?

Best wishes

Rae.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 2 months later...

I hope you won't mind me asking, but was the result of your ATOS medical check in your favour? My partner will be in the same position as you at some point in the future (diagnosis originally 17 years ago), and any help or guidance on how the process worked for you would be appreciated.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Greetings Cumbrian Peasant and thanks for joining the unofficial ESA club on CAG forums where there is a wealth of information if only newbies would spend some time looking at the previous threads.

I hope you won't mind me asking, but was the result of your ATOS medical check in your favour?
I think that it's fairly safe to assume that the "ATOS medical check" was unfavourable if the OP asked for the report.
My partner will be in the same position as you at some point in the future (diagnosis originally 17 years ago), and any help or guidance on how the process worked for you would be appreciated.
Please may I suggest that you read up on the facts first and then return with more specific questions than the above.

 

See also:

 

 

http://www.cas.org.uk/FileAccess.aspx?id=7323 (Unfit for Purpose - Scottish CAB evidence on ESA)

http://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/not_working_ma... (CAB evidence on the ESA work capability assessment.)

http://brightonbenefitscampaign.wordpress.com/2... (Employment and Support Allowance: a new harsher test Brighton Benefits Campaign)

DWP ESA Medical Examinations (First hand experience of the DWP ESA procedure from someone with a debilitating and life threatening brain tumour who was deemed fit by the DWP's "medical" contractor).

Edited by loan_ranger

I'm not a qualified welfare rights adviser, but I'm planning on becoming one. I'm no substitute for more competent advice from trained CAB and welfare rights workers - [URL="http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/benefits-tax-credits-minimum/127741-benefits-advice.html"]see this post[/URL] by Joa, great advice and links! I've been running a Crisis Loan campaign and help since Jan 2007 . See my annotations c/o "theyworkforyou". I'm also currently interested by the recent DWP Medical Services reform and the effect this is having on valid claims, seriously - someone needs to be keeping a suicide count.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Dear Lone Ranger - I'm sure you thought your posting was helpful. However, all the various links you provided I have already researched. My question was directly for Marie72 whose situation exactly mirrors that of my partner. Do you have direct knowledge of Maries outcomes?

 

May be, in future, you could tone down some of the rather heavy handed criticisms found in your reply to me. Thanks!

Link to post
Share on other sites

Easy tigers! :)

 

Cumbrian Peasant, marie72 hasn't visited CAG since 10th of May so you may need to be patient! I suggest clicking on her username and sending her a private message, it might be that she will get an email notification that she has a message and check in here...

 

By the way, I still prefer 'Cumberland' :razz:

 

Best wishes

Rae

Link to post
Share on other sites

Send Marie a PM like you ought to have done in the first place, seeing as her posts are now from over 10 weeks ago, what did you expect to achieve by posting a vague question in a forum.? BTW I've answered the only specific question, derrr, if the exam was favourable then there'd be no need to ask for the report.

TBH if you've already read the info in the links provided, then you wouldn't have come here with such a dumb post.

I'm not a qualified welfare rights adviser, but I'm planning on becoming one. I'm no substitute for more competent advice from trained CAB and welfare rights workers - [URL="http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/benefits-tax-credits-minimum/127741-benefits-advice.html"]see this post[/URL] by Joa, great advice and links! I've been running a Crisis Loan campaign and help since Jan 2007 . See my annotations c/o "theyworkforyou". I'm also currently interested by the recent DWP Medical Services reform and the effect this is having on valid claims, seriously - someone needs to be keeping a suicide count.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey, relax LR! :cool:

 

Whatever the rights or the wrongs of the post, CP is new to the forum and should be accorded the respect a newbie is due...

 

Best wishes

Rae

Link to post
Share on other sites

Sorry Rae, I shouldn't have plugged doyourownhomework.com

  • Haha 1

I'm not a qualified welfare rights adviser, but I'm planning on becoming one. I'm no substitute for more competent advice from trained CAB and welfare rights workers - [URL="http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/benefits-tax-credits-minimum/127741-benefits-advice.html"]see this post[/URL] by Joa, great advice and links! I've been running a Crisis Loan campaign and help since Jan 2007 . See my annotations c/o "theyworkforyou". I'm also currently interested by the recent DWP Medical Services reform and the effect this is having on valid claims, seriously - someone needs to be keeping a suicide count.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Send Marie a PM like you ought to have done in the first place, seeing as her posts are now from over 10 weeks ago, what did you expect to achieve by posting a vague question in a forum.? BTW I've answered the only specific question, derrr, if the exam was favourable then there'd be no need to ask for the report.

TBH if you've already read the info in the links provided, then you wouldn't have come here with such a dumb post.

 

 

lol who has been rattling your cage LR like a bear with a sore heed hehe

Link to post
Share on other sites

Loan-Ranger has put up some very relevant and helpful links for Cumbrian Peasant (CP) and I think there has been a genuine misunderstanding by CP. Loan-Ranger willingly gives his time to this site and has assisted me and numerous other caggers offering invaluable advice and links. I have recently needed advice, support and assistance and Loan-Ranger has often come onto my threads and put up links and offered advice. My mum suffers from mental ill health and I am her carer, so I have become a member of this elite ESA Club. The caggers on this site have all been brilliant and supported me through some very dark and confusing days. CP the links that LR posted I have previously added as 'favourites' as they are very useful. Loan-Ranger you are brilliant and a big thank you for all your wonderful help and advice.

Link to post
Share on other sites

what is the diagnosis and at what stge are you at,what benefits are your partner in receipt of ,please furnish this information then we can advise on a better understanding...hope that helps..

patrickq1

Link to post
Share on other sites

Cumbrian Peasant - I have sent you a PM. I haven't been online for ages due to very poor mental health. Rae, I'd like to thank you for all your help with the letter for my appeal, which has now been passed to tribunal stage as obviously - I was found fit to work after all the 'discrepencies' at my medical.

 

I wish you all the best of luck.

 

-Marie

Link to post
Share on other sites

i think atos just do what whoever they are being paid by wants as i used to work for royal mail and atos recommended that i took ill health early retirement which i had too do,then when i am put on esa atos then inform the dwp then i am not entitled to any points as in their medical opinion i am well enough to work. so why did they lose me my job in the first place then ! what a useless lot they are

Link to post
Share on other sites

i think atos just do what whoever they are being paid by wants as i used to work for royal mail and atos recommended that i took ill health early retirement which i had too do,then when i am put on esa atos then inform the dwp then i am not entitled to any points as in their medical opinion i am well enough to work. so why did they lose me my job in the first place then ! what a useless lot they are

 

 

A young woman went through Meridian news after she went through exactly the same scenario. Do a search on google 'nicola hobbs anorexia atos meridian' and you'll find plenty of info in relation to that.

 

Telling the same story again to the same sources will at least make it known that Hobbs' story is hardly an isolated one. That may be something to consider, especially if you want to kick Atos in the teeth (and we do!).

 

This is the Meridian link :- http://www.itv.com/meridian-west/fighting-to-be-fit07254/

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...