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    • The Notice to Hirer does not comply with the protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule  4 . This is before I ask if Europarks have sent you a copy of the PCN they sent to Arval along with a copy of the hire agreement et. if they haven't done that either you are totally in the clear and have nothing to worry about and nothing to pay. The PCN they have sent you is supposed to be paid by you according to the Act within 21 days. The chucklebuts have stated 28 days which is the time that motorists have to pay. Such a basic and simple thing . The Act came out in 2012 and still they cannot get it right which is very good news for you. Sadly there is no point in telling them- they won't accept it because they lose their chance to make any money out of you. they are hoping that by writing to you demanding money plus sending in their  unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors that you might be so frightened as to pay them money so that you can sleep at night. Don't be surprised if some of their letters are done in coloured crayons-that's the sort of  level of people you will be dealing with. Makes great bedding for the rabbits though. Euro tend not to be that litigious but while you can safely ignore the debt collectors just keep an eye out for a possible Letter of Claim. They are pretty rare but musn't be ignored. Let us know so that you can send a suitably snotty letter to them showing that you are not afraid of them and are happy to go to Court as you like winning.  
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    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
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egg closed thousands of CC accounts that weren't in default, claiming the agreement had a clause allowing them to close accounts at any time.

 

IMHO. a clause for them to close an account (or rather, end the agreement) at any time contradicts the CCA. if an account is in default, they have to issue a DN and give time to rectify. If rectification is made, the CCA prevents them doing anything. They could though, just close the account without a DN by virtue of 'the clause'. They could wait to see if rectification was made, and if not, close it by virtue of the CCA provision. If it was rectified, they could use their clause to close the account.

 

Clauses like that undermine the CCA. Just imagine, a CCA agreement meeting the requirements of the CCA, and other clauses over ruling the CCA protection. Just imagine the scenario, they attract you with an interest free period, persuade you to transfer a balance............. and when you do, they close the (non default) account by virtue of their clause, and then bring into play another clause that allows them to increase the interest rate permanently to a ridiculous level in the event of the account closing...... None of that would be against the CCA, but is arguably unfair.

 

I'm sure all agreements contain those clauses allowing them to close at any time, but they're against the spirit of the CCA at the least. The CCA is silent on the issue of closing non default CC accounts, so its up to a court to decide if such clauses are in keeping with the CCA. I don't think they are, but it looks like the courts may disagree. I don't think its been argued that allowing them to close accounts by virtue of their clause can be used to undermine the provisions of the CCA by closing rectified accounts.

 

I'm in the same boat with my egg card - they closed it as soon as I told them I had money problems (so much for keeping them informed). The last word I had from them a few months ago was that they were selling the account.

 

I have found egg the most dishonourable duplicitous conniving bunch you could imagine. EVERY letter is written to cause confusion, to avoid providing information, and to simply wear you out

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  • 5 years later...
Folks - I have never been told that my account was terminated. They have two entries - 9 months apart stating TERMINATED AGREEMENT ACCOUNT.

 

On my CC documentation it also states that my Card Account is ACTIVE, in May 2010, but Apex claim to have been sold the debt in 2009. I was orignally telephoned repeatedly by Apex to pay up because I had failed to keep my agreement with them! As I didn't know who they were - I told them to take a long and mind expansive run off a short cliff which wasn't received too well! Egg have never confirmed thye have sold the debt - nearly a year on! However, this site has helped me enormously and I am slowly making headway.

 

This saga continues on and on.

 

 

Today I have received a letter Cabot Financial UK Ltd telling me that my Egg Current Account (never had one) has an outstanding balance. They are going to refer me to Fidelite so they can visit my home.

 

 

I last advised Apex that I would not correspond with them further in December 2010, having not had documents sent in the timeframes specified. They carried on for a while and then Cabot appeared a while ago. I've been ignoring them so far as I don't think they have any rights if Apex dropped the ball in 2010, why would Cabot be able to pick it up and run with it now?

 

 

I am going to send a CCA to Cabot and a further letter regarding sending agents onto my property, etc, My last letter to Apex was in July 2010 but I did have a SO still going to Egg until Sept 2012. Where do I stand? Do I just send the CCA? Please advise.

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I have read this thread with interest. I have a strange situation with an old egg Credit Card which is detailed on another thread but my saga continues on and on.

 

Today I have received a letterlink3.giffrom Cabot Financial UK Ltd telling me that my Egg Current Account (never had one) has an outstanding balance (I assume Credit Card). They are going to refer me to Fidelite so they can visit my home.

 

I last advised Apex that I would not correspond with them further in July 2010, having not had documents sent in the timeframes specified, not been advised by Egg that the account had been re-assigned and the Egg account was still active at the time. They (Apex) carried on for a while (until June 2015) and then Cabot appeared a while ago. I've been ignoring them so far as I don't think they have any rights if Apex dropped the ball in 2010, why would Cabot be able to pick it up and run with it now?

 

I was going to send a CCA to Cabot and a further letter regarding sending agents onto my property, etc, because I don't want some idiot stressing out my family. My last letter to Apex was in July 2010 but I did have a SO still going to Egg until Sept 2012. I have had no notice of re-assignment at any time.

 

 

Where do I stand? Do I just send the CCA? Please advise.

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ignore them

the debt is now statute barred.

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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the debt is now statute barred.

 

 

dx

 

Thanks for coming back to me dx100 - sorry I didn't mean to post in the wrong place.

 

 

Even though I continued to pay after I thought I didn't have to pay them, the debts are still statute barred? Is this why they do not appear on my credit file?

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if a debt was defaulted more than 6yrs ago it wont show

theres no link between defaulted date and SB date mind

 

 

so when was your last payment

you appear to indicate it ws plus 6yrs ago?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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The standing orders were left being paid until Egg returned the monies without any warning

- card last payment was 09/12 and loan was 02/13.

But I had continuously refuted the debt based on an unlawful agreement since 05/08

and never acknowledged any debt to

(nor ever paid any monies to) Apex who claimed to take over the debt in 11/09.

 

I had 2 debts with Egg at the time, credit card and loan and I challenged both.

 

 

Apex claimed to have been assigned the debts but I never had any official notification from Egg

when I challenged Apex, they didn't provide me with copies of the agreement within the specified timeframe

- requested mid January, arrived 3rd week March 2010.

 

 

So I ignored all their letters until Jul 2010 and Dec 2010 when I told them they wouldn't hear from me again.

 

 

This latest lot of correspondence is from Cabot who have threatened all sorts of stuff so far but I have not responded and I just keep getting letters until this one saying they will send someone for a home visit....?

 

 

I was going to send another CCA but is it worth it when Apex didn't hit the date they were supposed to?

 

 

I was also going to send a letter stating that they are not permitted on my property without my express permission? Is it worth sending that one as well?

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do not send anything.

simply invites letter tennis.

 

 

dirty mac brigade have no legal powers and rarely turn up

IGNORE

unless /until you get a claimform

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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