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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
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    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
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I have today recieved the following letter from Legal Services Commission dated 12-01-09

 

You were informed on 05 October 2001 that your certificate had been revoked. This means that you now have to pay all the costs originally paid by Legal Services Commission under this certificate. The amount you must pay is £1209.79.

 

You must either pay this amount by 02 February 2009 or, if you are unable to do this, you must tell us how you propose to pay.

 

You must write with your proposals to the Debt Recovery Unit, Legal Services Commission, Exchange Tower, 2 Harbour Exchange Square, London E14 9GE. Your letter must be received by 02 February 2009. Please remember to quote your reference number on any letter you write.

Yours sincerely

My first reaction was "what the ...." had no idea what it was talking about and frankly I'm still not sure. However I understand these are the Legal Aid people and back in the last century I did have some Legal Aid work done for a custody case which was resolved in Oct 1999.

 

I think I had to make a contribution for something like £80.00 at the time. Anyway case was won and we moved on, literally as we also moved house in Feb 2001, never to hear anything since.

 

Then we get this letter out of the blue and I'm not sure what to do with it. I had a look at the National Debtline Helpsheet but didn't feel that there examples covered this kind of debt, so I phoned them. Got a nice automated voice explaing that they record this call and any case papers could be forwarded to Legal Services Commission, at which point I panicked and put the phone down.

 

 

I'd be grateful for some advice, personally I'd like to just chuck it in the bin and forget it but I'm not sure that's the best move.

 

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My feeling is that this is statute barred, if you have not made a payment towards the debt or acknowledged it in 6 years (5 in Scotland - let us know if you are in Scotland as it will be a different letter) then it will be.

 

Send letter 'M' from here by recorded delivery - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general-debt-issues/20758-creditors-dcas-letter-templates.html

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Thanks for that however I certainly haven't acknowledged it .......... ever. I am only presuming its something to do with an old Legal Aid case I had. I've never, to my knowledge received the notification mentioned and may not even owe that money in any case.

 

I would have to severely change Letter M to fit. In fact would I maybe be better of writing to them just saying I have no idea what you are talking about but if any debt was owed it would be statute barred and therefore unenforceable?

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Hi, I will try and find out if the LSC can do this - I do suspect that you will be able to fight them on the statute barred basis.

 

If your certificate was revoked I wonder why?

 

Will come back to you tomorrow when I have looked into this.

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Hi, I will try and find out if the LSC can do this - I do suspect that you will be able to fight them on the statute barred basis.

 

If your certificate was revoked I wonder why?

 

Will come back to you tomorrow when I have looked into this.

 

I have no idea why it would be revoked two years after the fact but as I've never heard anything about it until now I guess the notification never caught up with my house move.

 

At the very least I will want to know why also?

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If LSC revoke your certificate this is generally because you do not tell them about a change in your financial situation. This means that you now have to pay all the costs originally paid by Legal Services Commission to your Solicitor.

 

I certainly would not put this in the bin and forget about it as you are not dealing with a stupid DCA. You should contact your regional LSC office or the following address and ask them what this is regarding as you do not acknowledge any debt to them.

 

Land Charge Department

Legal Services Commission

85 Gray's Inn Road

London

WC1X 8TX

 

Tel: 020 7759 1002

email: [email protected]

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Sorry to bump this but just in case someone else comes up against the same issue, I wrote to the LSC advising them I had no knowledge of the debt and had received no correspondence relating to it. I also stated that if such a debt was owed then surely it was Statute Barred.

 

This is the reply I got.

 

You had an emergency legal aid certificate and were offered a substantive certificate, which you did not take up, therefore leaving you liable for the costs expended under the emergency certificate. Letters were sent to you and your solicitor at the time.

 

However, the revocation of the certificate took place on 5th January 2001 and your solicitors did not confirm a final bill until 12th January 2009. Therefore the debt is clearly Statue Barred and has been written off our system.

 

So I can now file and forget.

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Yes you certainly can :)

HAVE YOU BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY BY CREDITORS OR DCA's?

 

BEWARE OF CLAIMS MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OFFERING TO WRITE OFF YOUR DEBTS.

 

 

Please note opinions given by rory32 are offered informally as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice, you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

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The telephone number quoted below is out of date: please try 0300 200 2020

 

 

If LSC revoke your certificate this is generally because you do not tell them about a change in your financial situation. This means that you now have to pay all the costs originally paid by Legal Services Commission to your Solicitor.

 

I certainly would not put this in the bin and forget about it as you are not dealing with a stupid DCA. You should contact your regional LSC office or the following address and ask them what this is regarding as you do not acknowledge any debt to them.

 

Land Charge Department

Legal Services Commission

85 Gray's Inn Road

London

WC1X 8TX

 

Tel: 020 7759 1002

[/email]

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Yes, but unfortunately the new Legal Aid Agency which replaced the LSC in 2013 is sending out correspondence with no new contact information. People are therefore searching for advice on forums like this one and finding the old telephone number, or going back to their old correspondence with LSC. I work in the office which now has the old LSC telephone number and we deal with several calls each week and give out the new number. Happy to do this, but thought it would be helpful to all to post the new contact telephone number.

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