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    • it is NOT A FINE.....this is an extremely important point to understand no-one bar a magistrate in a magistrates criminal court can ever fine anyone for anything. Private Parking Tickets (speculative invoices) are NOT a criminal matter, merely a speculative contractual Civil matter hence they can only try a speculative monetary claim via the civil county court system (which is no more a legal powers matter than what any member of Joe Public can do). Until/unless they do raise a county court claim a CCJ and win, there are not ANY enforcement powers they can undertake other than using a DCA, whom are legally powerless and are not BAILIFFS. Penalty Charge Notices issued by local authorities etc were decriminalised years ago - meaning they no longer can progress a claim to the magistrates court to enforce, but go directly to legal enforcement via a real BAILIFF themselves. 10'000 of people waste £m's paying private parking companies because they think they are FINES...and the media do not help either. the more people read the above the less income this shark industry get. where your post said fine it now says charge .............. please fill out the Q&A ASAP. dx  
    • Well done on reading the other threads. If ECP haven't got the guts to do court then there is no reason to pay them. From other threads there is a 35-minute free stay after which you need to pay, with the signs hidden where no-one will read them.  Which probably explains why ECP threaten this & threaten that, but in the end daren't do court. As for your employer - well you can out yourself as the driver to ECP so the hamster bedding will arrive at yours.  Get your employer to do that using the e-mail address under Appeals and Transfer Of Liability.  
    • good you are getting there. Lloyds/TSb...i certainly would not be risking possible off-setting going on if a choice were there, but in all honestly thats obv too late now..., however..you might not never be in that situation so dont worry too much. regardless to being defaulted or not, if any debt that is not paid/used in 6yrs it becomes statute barred. you need to understand a couple of things like 'default' and 'default notice' a default is simply a recorded D in the calendar section/history of a debt, it does not really mean anything. might slightly hit your rating. the important thing here is a default notice , these are issued by the original creditor (OC) under the consumer credit act, it gives you 14 days to settle whatever they are asking, if you don't then they have the option to register a defaulted date on your credit file. that can make getting other credit more difficult. and hits your rating. once that happens, not matter what you do after that, paying it or not or not paid off or not, the whole account vanishes from your credit file on the DN's 6th b'day. though that might not necessarily mean the debt is not still owed - thats down to the SB date above. an OC very rarely does court and only the OWNER of a debt can instigate any court action (Attempted a CCJ) DCA's debt collection agencies - DCA's are NOT BAILIFFS they have ZERO legal powers on ANY debt - no matter what it's TYPE. an OC make pass a debt to a dca as their client to try and spoof people into paying through legal ignorance of the above statement. an OC may SELL on an old debt to a DCA/debt buyer (approx 10p=£1) and then claim their losses through tax write off and their business insurance, wiping their hands of the debt. the DCA then becomes the debt OWNER. since the late 70's dca's pull all kinds of 'stunts' through threat-o-grams to spoof a debtor into paying them the full value of the debt, when they bought if for a discounted sum (typically 10p=£1). you never pay a dca a penny! if read carefully, NONE of their letters nor those of any other 'trading names' they spoof themselves under making it seem it's going up some kind of legitimate legal 'chain' say WILL anything....just carefully worded letters with all kinds of threats of what could/might/poss happen with other such words as instruct forward pass... well my dog does not sit when instructed too...so... DCA's SOMETIMES will issue a court claim, but in all honesty its simply a speculative claim hoping mugs wet themselves and cough up...oh im going to court... BIG DEAL DCA - show me the enforceable paperwork signed by me...9/10 they dont have it and if your defence is conducted properly, most run away from you . however before they do all that they now have to send a letter of claim, cause the courts got fed up with them issuing +750'000PA speculative claims and jamming up the legal system. so bottom line is two conclusions.... if you cant pay a debt, get a DN issued ASAP (stop paying it!) make sure it gets registered on your file then it stops hurting your file/future credit in 6yrs regardless to what happens (bar of course a later DCA CCJ - fat chance mind!)  once you've a registered DN , then look into restarting payments if the debt is still owed by the OC, if SOLD to a DCA, don't pay - see if they issue a letter of claim (then comeback here!).        
    • Any update here?  I ask as we have someone new being hassled for parking at this site.
    • Any update here?  I ask as we have someone new being hassled for parking at this site.
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

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Hi - Cleo here - after months of nothing from EGG I have received a a letter from "AKTIV" telling me they have purchased the debt from Egg and to contact them about payment etc....

 

Is there anything I can do or should be asking them for please - such as a notice of assignment. Sent unenforceable letter to Egg ages ago re: approved limit etc - seems funny they've sold it on n ow??????

 

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I Have Received A Final Demand From Aktiv Debt Collectors For Egg Credit Card. I Disputed (read Pt's Thread) Regarding "approved Limit" Etc On Agreement - Never Heard Anything Then Received A Notice Of Assignement From Aktiv, Then A Discounted Offer, Now This. I Am Unsure What To Do - Anyone Help Please??

 

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A discounted offer eh! Well and truly unenforceable then.

Did you send them the 'failed' letter to tell them that the account is in dispute due to failure to provide CCA?

 

If so, then they are well aware of the rules and laws, file their missives under ignore and make a complaint to the ICO/TS via Consumer Direct - Contact us

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Hi - Cleo here - after months of nothing from EGG I have received a a letter from "AKTIV" telling me they have purchased the debt from Egg and to contact them about payment etc....

 

Is there anything I can do or should be asking them for please - such as a notice of assignment. Sent unenforceable letter to Egg ages ago re: approved limit etc - seems funny they've sold it on n ow??????

 

thanks

complained to AKTIV quoting latest judgment "wholly unenforceable" etc if prescribed term missing. Now being investigated by them

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cleo, you can complain to the OFT because it is considered an unfair practice for a lender to pass an account to a new DCA without telling the borrower. You can say how it is confiusing and causes extra stree trying to work out exactly who you shoudl pay. I think Egg tends to do this, they have with me, and i am about to complain to the OFT as a result

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I received a notice of assignment from Aktiv i think - will have to check.

 

My point is should they be chasing it when there is the claim that "approved limit" is not a prescribed term and therefore the agreement is wholly unenforceable

 

Previously to this they offered me a special offer discounted settlement!!!

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whether they should be chasing is moot, but the fact is they are! they get round the dont enforce whilst in dispute by claiming that what they are doing is not enforcement, and also by saying you dont have grounds for dispute so your dispute is invalid

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Had disputed Egg credit card debt - disputed due to "approved" credit limit and no rate stated for cash advances. Heard nothing for ages then Aktiv capital started writing to me - have now had letter saying "in our opinion" the agreement is enforceable.

Haven't posted in a while due to things going very quiet.

 

Any help out there please?

 

thanks

 

Cleo

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Hi,

 

Yes PT had a court case with the approved limit - it failed - but not just on this one point - so I wouldn't hang your hopes on the Approved Limit area.

 

PPI is a genuine area you can challenge, Egg were fined a huge amount regarding their mis-selling of the very same - if you didn't need it, want it, or were able to benefit from it - then its been mis-sold - you will get a refund of premiums Plus interest.

 

Were you one of the infamous accounts who recd a " you are to be terminated" letter in Jan 2008 (with termination occuring March2008) by Egg - as you didn't fit their new business model? If so, there is another area you can look at ..

 

Abs x

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well a while since I've posted on this thread.

 

 

This has been to so many DCA's you wouldn't believe it.

 

 

The last time I requested copy agreement and paid the £1 fee they credited it to the account.

 

 

I dispuited this as it was not a payment.

 

 

PRA Group have now acknowledged in writing that this is STATUTE BARRED after agreeing the £1 was taken as payment in error.

 

 

Account now closed (£6k+)

 

 

As always CAG is my first port of call and thanks again.

 

 

Just shows how important it is if they count the £1 as a payment it re-sets the SB clock .

 

 

My PPI claim for this is now with the FOS.

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Just shows how important it is if they count the £1 as a payment it re-sets the SB clock

 

Hello again Cleo, good to hear this is dead and buried..

 

Just to clear up that little grey area, for others more so, but any notion of a DCA/creditor claiming that a £1 payment made for a CCA request is a payment made toward the debt will be incredibly hard pushed to convince a DJ of the same, and once a debt is SB nothing can unbar it.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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