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    • depends what the fees are, typically nothing can be added once judgement is passed bar litigation costs. on document retention time limits etc at least 6yrs previous must be held though many hold complete info. as for acronyms and abbreviations ideally yes they should     
    • Still have to submit a statement either system....if they fail they can only give verbal because they failed to file and serve.
    • OP stated they had been arrested, but not charged (let alone convicted). They DON'T have a criminal record, but do have an entry on the PNC. That information stays on the PNC (Police National Computer) for life, but doesn't get released in a standard DBS. It only MIGHT get released for an Enhanced DBS (eDBS) check  ... but it would be incredibly unlikely. (The rational behind this is that eDBS's allow for 'information at Chief Officer of Police's discretion' ..... this covers the 2 'barring lists' and is also intended for the scenario where someone has multiple arrests or investigations, where safeguarding is a concern .... it was brought in after the Soham murders / Ian Huntley case, where the information known about the now-convicted child murderer may have prevented his employment in a school, had it been made available). So, for the sake of accuracy and completeness, arrests stay on the PNC for life, wont appear in a standard DBS, MIGHT appear in an eDBS, but in reality, would be the exception rather than the norm, and I can't see them being released  to a defense barrister. What then if the defence found out a different way, and brought it up in court?. Again, unlikely, but the important feature is that the judge would make sure they trod very carefully!. They MIGHT consider using it if there were other factors that allowed them to try to cast doubts as to the truthfulness of your evidence, but on its own : No way. Anyone MIGHT be arrested (if a seemingly plausible complaint been made against them)! The approach to take if it did come up is to be truthful. "Yes, I was arrested. It arose from a vexatious complaint. I wasn't charged, let alone convicted. That could happen to any one of us, if a vexatious complaint gets made" Far better that than lying, saying you'd never been arrested, and getting caught in a lie : that would ruin your credibility. I'm incredibly doubtful it will even come up, though.
    • we dont get N157 because its new OCMC but no court dont have evidence either.   Just seems a bit of a pointless wait but oh well
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which years do you need?

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I put the first one in another thread somewhere, but I may as well add it here, along with the current T&C (in PDF form)

 

RBoS Terms & Conditions circa 1989 (92k)...

 

http://www.britcom.org.uk/cag/Royalties_T&C_circa_1989.pdf

 

RBoS Terms & Conditions Feb 2007 (approx 3Mb)

 

http://www.britcom.org.uk/cag/RBS_T&C_2007.pdf

 

Incidentally, both PDFs are text searchable.

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Thanks for these - I can't find any mention or implication that exceeding an agreed limit will incur a charge. Instead, it gets treated as an informal request for an overdraft. In these situations could it still be argued that by exceeding a limit a customer is in breach of contract? Wasn't this the key issue behind the recent Lloyds TSB successes?

 

I don't want it be seen as a legitimate service.

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Charges and Rates are on separate leaflets - see section C8 of the current T & Cs - for current charges see the link :-

 

"Fees, Interest and other charges

 

C.8 Fees for operating the account, interest rates and charges payable are charged as detailed in the 'Charges and rates of interest' insert relating to the accoun t and are subject to review from time to time. If any changes are made, details of the revised charges will be sent to you at least 30 days before the implementation date for the changes. "

 

RBS: Current Accounts - Rates & charges

 

Below are charges published in February 1999

 

Charges

The following monthly charges are payable on Royalties and

Royalties Gold:

Royalties £4

Royalties Gold £9

Monthly Service Charges: An additional monthly fee of £15 is payable on accounts which are overdrawn in excess of the agreed limit in any charging month. The service charging period is normally in line with the date we send your statement to you. Application: These charges are applied 16 days after the end of the charging period (or on the next business day if this is a Saturday, Sun day or Bank Holiday).

Referral fees: Where the Bank pays a debit drawn on the account which results in an unauthorised overdraft, a charge of £20 for each occasion is payable, subject to a maximum of £60 per month. This charge is applied monthly on the 6th business day of the following month.

Overdraft: We encourage all our customers to agree an overdraft limit in advance of any borrowing in order to avoid unnecessary excess charges.

For limits of £15,000 and above, arrangement fees (2% of facility) and renewal fees (1% of facility) will be payable.

 

 

Hope that helps you.

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Sorry Monty I only have PDF Reader and copying & pasting text a bit tricky but if you PM me your email address, I will send as attachments.

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