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Hermes, lost parcel, legalities ***Settlement agreed ADR***
FloozW replied to FloozW's topic in Postal and Delivery Services
Settled at mediation. My advice to anyone in a similar situation with this company is, don’t give up, and don’t let them intimidate you with their T&C’s; remember, T&C’s should enhance statute, not replace it. -
Parcel2go / Hermes lost parcel. Small claims procedure
FloozW replied to Hoxton's topic in Postal and Delivery Services
Good luck Hoxton, I have an outstanding MCOL with them, currently waiting on mediation. From what i’ve read on this site, and another, you shouldn’t be required or expected to pay any extra for Hermes to abide by their statutory duty to perform the service you paid for. I believe (and i’m sure someone with better knowledge will confirm), their T&C’s which attempt to limit their liability would be classed as unfair. Might be worth looking into that a bit further. -
Hermes, lost parcel, legalities ***Settlement agreed ADR***
FloozW replied to FloozW's topic in Postal and Delivery Services
Can someone advise please. I returned the Small Claims Direction Questionnaire (small claims track) indicating that I agree to mediation, and details of my County Court, but have heard nothing since. Is there something else i’m supposed to do, and does anyone have any idea of how long before I hear anything further? -
Hermes, lost parcel, legalities ***Settlement agreed ADR***
FloozW replied to FloozW's topic in Postal and Delivery Services
Having looked properly at the paperwork now, i’ve realised that I don’t actually respond at this point, just fill in form N180 and return it to the Court - I think I have to send a copy to Hermes too. So, i’m assuming that points I wish to make will be made at a hearing, is that right? If so, making notes for myself would be a good idea. If someone could point me in the direct of what Acts to check, i’d be grateful. These are my points: failure to carry out the job with care and skill (Consumer Rights Act?) limiting liability by unfair T&C’s (CRA, part 2?) Negligence and breach of contract. Cannot rely on contractual terms when they have already breached that contract. value; wholesale, commercial, retail, or replacement value - they can all be different. is professional time a quantifiable loss? Or, am I complicating this unnecessarily? -
Hermes, lost parcel, legalities ***Settlement agreed ADR***
FloozW replied to FloozW's topic in Postal and Delivery Services
Well, it's no surprise that at the 11th hour, Hermes have filed a defence. From reading various threads etc, it seems to be their standard defence, declared value, ticking the 'I've read the T&C's, and limited liability contained in such. They have put the onus of 'proof' upon me. interestingly, they have denied the whole claim, despite admitting that they have lost the parcel. I guess I have to respond; I'm not particularly eloquent, so will have to think carefully about wording. In essence, what I would like to say is that 'value' is not the same as the cost of replacement, and given that to replace the items is going to include x hours of my professional time, on top of the physical cost of fabrics, that should be included. Surely, time is a quantifiable loss. Also, that their T&C's do not replace any statutory rights, and by doing so, their T&C's are automatically unfair, as they leave the consumer in an unfair position. Just not sure how to put it in 'legalese'. I've been trying to find a thread where someone has posted their response to Hermes defence, but haven't found one yet. They definitely don't read anything properly either - they keep referring to me as 'he', despite the particulars of claim showing quite clearly that I'm a Mrs. -
Hermes, lost parcel, legalities ***Settlement agreed ADR***
FloozW replied to FloozW's topic in Postal and Delivery Services
Thanks for confirming Andyorch. That’ll be 6th March, so i’ll sit and wait. -
Hermes, lost parcel, legalities ***Settlement agreed ADR***
FloozW replied to FloozW's topic in Postal and Delivery Services
Thanks again Andyorch. I just need to clarify, that is 28 days after service of the original claim, not 28 days after their acknowledgement? The 5 days has already been taken into consideration I think, as 6th February was the ‘official’ date of service, despite it being actually served on 1st February. Or have I misunderstood? -
Hermes, lost parcel, legalities ***Settlement agreed ADR***
FloozW replied to FloozW's topic in Postal and Delivery Services
Thank you Andyorch; I thought it was 28 days? -
Hermes, lost parcel, legalities ***Settlement agreed ADR***
FloozW replied to FloozW's topic in Postal and Delivery Services
Update: I issued a MCOL at the beginning of this month, date of ‘deemed’ service was 6th February, and i’ve heard nothing since. So, this morning I logged on to MCOL to request judgment, only to find that Hermes issued Acknowledgment of service on 11th February. So, i’ll sit and wait another 14 days. -
Hermes, lost parcel, legalities ***Settlement agreed ADR***
FloozW replied to FloozW's topic in Postal and Delivery Services
Thanks for that Bankfodder. I started putting together a letter before action letter this afternoon, and also looking through info online here, which then made me look into the ‘unfair terms’ section on the CRA. Having now read Hermes T&C’s (like most, I didn’t at the time, and also wasn’t aware what a bad rep they had), I think there’s much that I believe would be classed as unfair. Also, i’m guessing they will hide behind T&C’s, which, of course, do not replace their statutory duty. I’ll keep you informed. -
Hermes, lost parcel, legalities ***Settlement agreed ADR***
FloozW replied to FloozW's topic in Postal and Delivery Services
Bankfodder - May I ask a question please? Given that Hermes are now trying to limit their liability on the basis of the amount of ‘cover’ that I paid for, and they are now saying that was the amount of compensation I chose, would you say that was an ‘unfair term’ as a), it’s not transparent, and, b), it is to the detriment of the consumer? Unfortunately, the CRA doesn’t really give any indication of what to expect when as a result of lack of care and skill actually results in the loss of items, only that the ‘service’ should be carried out again, or the payment made should be reduced/repaid. -
Hermes, lost parcel, legalities ***Settlement agreed ADR***
FloozW replied to FloozW's topic in Postal and Delivery Services
It’s just dawned on me - I think. The value of my loss isn’t necessarily the same as the value of the lost items, so although they’ve agreed to pay for the lost items to the value of £58.75, my loss is greater than that, and should be compensated too. It’s very difficult to put things in the typed word sometimes, and i’m not the most eloquent person anyway. But am I making sense, and am I right? -
Hermes, lost parcel, legalities ***Settlement agreed ADR***
FloozW replied to FloozW's topic in Postal and Delivery Services
I can only prove fabric and bits to the value of £58.75; in addition to that there was two items in the parcel which I cannot prove the value of, as the fabric used had been supplied to me by said friend, it was a good quality, and I would conservatively give a value of £30. However, I do accept that the ‘cover’ I elected was just £50. To make these things again, will take another 16 hours of my time; even at national minimum wage, that’s over £100 worth of time. Plus, these items have been missing since mid/end of November, since then, i’ve made countless phone calls and emails (including emailing the ceo). Like most people, given Hermes failure to act with the skill and care they should, i’d Like to give as big a ‘slap’ as possible. But that’s not out of greed or wishing to exploit the situation, but the belief that businesses like this need to learn lessons, and the only thing they understand is money. I hope that helps, -
Hermes, lost parcel, legalities ***Settlement agreed ADR***
FloozW replied to FloozW's topic in Postal and Delivery Services
Yes, that’s right. I cannot prove a value of the additional items in the parcel, which would be in the region of £30, and I accept that. Sorry, I forgot to say that I realise we don’t have punitive damages, but given the amount of large companies that flout laws (i’ve Experience of a couple not following employment law), we should have, as a stronger incentive to abide by them. -
Hermes, lost parcel, legalities ***Settlement agreed ADR***
FloozW replied to FloozW's topic in Postal and Delivery Services
They have offered £58.75 for the items (which is the total of the receipts which I have provided), although there was 2 additional items made from fabric I cannot provide a receipt for,), the total fee paid of £8.69 which includes an extra 90p for ‘cover’ and £15 as a ‘goodwill gesture’. It’s this ‘goodwill gesture’ that’s annoyed me. It’s not goodwill, it’s compensation for their negligence. As I said to them in one of the various communications i’ve Had: the parcel cannot simply disappear, it was handed to their staff, it’s either on their premises somewhere, or it’s been pinched, there is no other explanation.
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