Nothing as yet, but not expecting anything until after the Easter break tbh. They are notoriously slow at responding at the best of times.

Thanks for all your input. That letter from Dave will be sent tonight and hopefully put an end to this fiasco. T.

I realize the letter is not from actual bailiffs and carries no weight - pretty naughty from them imo to masquerade as bailiffs to 'scare' people into paying and also forwarding an address to this supposed 3rd party that they have been told on more than one occasion is not her residence. I have all the emails that I sent to the various ParkingEye addresses, a copy of the SAR that also shows they have been informed of this and also a copy of the letter I sent with postage confirmation (which they acknowledged they had received) so they have no case to say they hadn't been told. All these clearly state the correspondence address in Scotland. Personally, I would wait until they try to take it to court but my daughter is not really up for anything at the mo. I posted a copy of the letter so that any other people in the same position can see the lengths of underhand tactics that these vermin will go to for the £'s Just wondering if it is worth emailing again telling them all the things they have already done wrong and say she's hoping they will take it to court and if so, she'll be bringing up the previous ccj and hope they can't be bothered taking it further - thoughts? Thanks. T.

Hi All, Back again! My daughter has just received this from a DCA (saying they are bailiffs!) acting on behalf of ParkingEye in relation to the first (8 min) PCN. Even though I have informed ParkingEye about the address and told them in no uncertain terms not to post anything to the English address they got the backdoor ccj through, guess where this was sent to..................yep English address! I even informed them again when I asked about how they issued the last PCN when the ticket was clearly paid for - there reply was 'unfortunately it is too late to appeal that' which makes me think they knew the PCN should never have been issued - I am really starting to hate this firm with a passion! any ideas how best to proceed - surely this 8 min one is unenforceable? Thanks. T. 2024-03-05 DCBL Chasing.pdf

Begrudgingly paid it yesterday! Court confirmed it will not appear on the register. Spoke to Evology...............absolutely useless, just passed the buck to ParkingEye saying they just supply the technology and need to contact ParkingEye to ask how they interpret it.....................still waiting for an answer. It serves as a warning - just because the machine says you've paid it means nothing! Anyway, thanks to all who contributed to this thread especially FTMDave. T.

Yep - think we are just going to have to pay it on Monday even though it doesn't sit well and my instinct is to fight it. No guarantee of getting the £275 back even if we win - what a stupid system this is........no wonder they abuse it! So the 2 choices end up being pay £227 and get it over & done with or pay £275 to morally win but it costs more than the fine. The 3rd choice of just ignoring is not really something to consider. Thanks FTMDave for all your help - hopefully this thread will serve as a warning to others of how underhand and morally corrupt these firms are. Do we ask the court for a certificate to say the ccj won't be recorded once we have paid these scumbags? T.

Hi, She said the machine actually tells you how much you have to pay and you pay on your card. I've actually emailed evology who make the machine to ask for an explanation as to how this can happen - in essence it is 1min over! With regards to the 8 mins one, she is adamant the the machine said no charge when she left - her ex-boyfriend was with her in the car and he confirmed this so god knows what is going on. Worth chancing the set aside? With regards to G24, not done anything yet - not sure I want to alert them to the other address - should I just write and confirm the Scottish address with no reference to anything else? Thanks for your time FTMDave. T.

Hi, Hopefully there now - hopefully everything redacted - mine are in red - anything in black is redacted by PE. I think she may have been confused as how to pay because at the very end of the last pdf it actually says 1hr paid for meaning she was over by 1min - I think she thought you paid before leaving when I'm not sure that is the case - I'm going to Carlisle on Thursday so going to visit the car park in question myself. Also, strangely it says on that one 10mins free but on the other one it says 0min free - for the same car park within a few days? what she was saying about the 10mins free seems to be correct to some degree. Just to add - daughter had already taken some photos. It clearly shows pay on exit , how do you get a pcn when the machine says how much it is? Even PE's docs say she paid but no idea how it can be 1hr 11mins. Really confused tbh. Thanks. PE SAR.pdf Just to add - daughter had already taken some photos. It clearly shows pay on exit , how do you get a pcn when the machine says how much it is? Even PE's docs say she paid but no idea how it can be 1hr 11mins. Really confused tbh. T. signs.pdf

This is the covering email response (all personal details removed) - the pdf with all the info is 8mb - too big to upload - I'll need to split it and redact it tomorrow. Dear, We write further to your recent correspondence. We note from this that you have submitted a Request for Access pursuant to Article 15 of the UK General Data Protection Regulation (UK GDPR). We wish to confirm that the response provided below, and via the enclosed documents, concerns the Parking Charge referenced above. This data is provided on the basis that we note that you have already been identified as the registered keeper of the vehicle in question in relation to the dates of 22nd August 2023 and 11th September 2023 and therefore we can be satisfied, to the standard required, that the data collected and processed in respect of that vehicle on that date is personal data pertaining to you. We can confirm that your name and address were provided by the DVLA on 26th August 2023. This data was provided as you were identified as the registered keeper of vehicle in respect of a breach of the parking terms and conditions that took place within Mary Street, Carlisle on 22nd August 2023 Parkingeye can confirm that we issued a total of 5 items of correspondence to yourself to date prior to any further recovery or legal action. The address used was the address as held by the DVLA for the Registered Keeper of the vehicle. As no response was received to any of the correspondence sent, Parkingeye contacted a tracing agent to obtain any potential alternative address. To which end, an alternative address for yourself was provided and further items of correspondence were sent. Please note, whilst Experian are a credit referencing agency, no credit check has been undertaken in relation to this Parking Charge. We only utilise their tracing service in order to obtain alternative contact details. For clarity, personal data sent to our tracing agent is done so via an encrypted transmission route, therefore we do not hold physical copies of the same. The categories of personal data we send to them is your name, address and vehicle details. As Parkingeye did not receive any response to the correspondence sent, we entered into legal proceedings on 8th January 2024 in order to recover the outstanding sum owed for the Parking Charge and further costs were incurred. We can confirm that your name and address were provided by the DVLA on 15th September 2023. This data was provided as you were identified as the registered keeper of vehicle in respect of a breach of the parking terms and conditions that took place within Mary Street, Carlisle on 11th September 2023 . Parkingeye can confirm that we issued a total of 5 items of correspondence to yourself to date prior to any further recovery or legal action. The address used was the address as held by the DVLA for the Registered Keeper of the vehicle. As no response was received to any of the correspondence sent, Parkingeye contacted a tracing agent to obtain any potential alternative address. To which end, an alternative address for yourself was provided and further items of correspondence were sent. Please note, whilst Experian are a credit referencing agency, no credit check has been undertaken in relation to this Parking Charge. We only utilise their tracing service in order to obtain alternative contact details. For clarity, personal data sent to our tracing agent is done so via an encrypted transmission route, therefore we do not hold physical copies of the same. The categories of personal data we send to them is your name, address and vehicle details. As Parkingeye did not receive any response to the correspondence sent, we contacted our recovery agent in order to recover the outstanding sum owed against the Parking Charge. For clarity, personal data sent to our recovery agent is done so via an encrypted transmission route, therefore we do not hold physical copies of the same. The categories of personal data we send to them is your name, address and vehicle details. We can confirm, in line with s.(1)(h) of Article 15, that no automated decision-making or profiling, referred to in Article 22(1) and (4), has been undertaken in relation to personal data in this case. We note that Article 22 states as follows, “The data subject shall have the right not to be subject to a decision based solely on automated processing, including profiling, which produces legal effects concerning him or her or similarly significantly affects him or her”. We can confirm that you have not been subject to such a decision and that the processing falls outside the scope of Article 22. Any automated checks undertaken by Parkingeye in relation to ANPR data will only result in a decision not to issue a Parking Charge. Should the ANPR data we process indicate that a breach of the parking terms and conditions has taken place, any subsequent decision to issue a Parking Charge will require that data to pass through a substantial checking process that includes human intervention. Please note that the UK General Data Protection Regulation provides the following further rights: • The right to request from Parkingeye access, rectification or erasure of your personal data; • The right to request from Parkingeye restriction of processing of your personal data; • The right to object to the processing of your personal data. Please note that some of these rights are not absolute and will only apply in certain circumstances. We will review each request we receive in respect of these rights. We do not have to agree with a request but if we refuse, we will still contact the data subject within one month to explain why. You also have the right to lodge a complaint with the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO). For further information, please refer to the ICO website, www.ico.org.uk. You may also seek a judicial remedy. For further information about your rights as a data subject, plus information about the categories of data we process, data transfers, the legal basis for our processing, and the purposes of processing, please visit: https://www.Parkingeye.co.uk/privacy-policy/ Yours sincerely, Parkingeye Privacy Team

Yes, Kingstown Retail Park. With regards to the ParkingEye Court Default - think she is just wanting to pay it and get it over and done with. Before paying though, as she still has a few days - Do you think it is worth contacting PE and asking for an assurance they will not pursue the 8 mins one any further if she pays the £227 for this one? Thanks. T.

Yes, sent here to her Scottish address.

Many thanks Nicky Boy - thought I'd double checked. T. PCNG24.pdf

Hi All, Firstly, many thanks to all that have contributed with advice on this thread - much appreciated. Daughter phoned the court and they said they cannot waive the £275 fee. Also said that if she did set aside it would be heard in an English Court as papers served to an English address even though it is an incorrect address............is this correct? Makes me feel like less likely to win? Received the SAR back from PE and they have stated they received the English address from Experian. We've looked on her credit report and there is a linked address there from a company called Lendable that did 3 searches on her.......... one on her Scottish address, 1 on our neighbours address? and one on the English address. She says she and her ex went to look at buying a car - he cannot drive but was going to get the finance. I can only assume they have done a search on his address? Anyway it got refused unsurprisingly. There are no other links to that address on the credit report and no other searches from outside companies so how did PE obtain this address without a search on her credit report? It should be said copies of all pcn's where included so now we have copies of the original ones that were never received for some unkown reason - exactly the same as 8 mins one (but this one for 21mins over an hour) - stating keeper liability and all addressed to Scottish address. Now on to another matter............yesterday she informed me she has another pcn from a different company and now received a 'legal' letter. I've attached the 3 bits of info she has given me. I'm just worried these may try the same trick, so is it worth actually contacting them before it escalates further and state the no keeper liability in Scotland defence as they are claiming it as keeper liability - and that she doesn't recognize the offence? Would you believe she actually got this pcn when they went to look at buying a car as mentioned above...............just incredible! Thanks. T. PCNG24.pdf

Hi, Yes DX - the LOC and court papers where sent to the English address (Ex-boyfriends) which we obtained after the default in court - previously had never received anything for this claim at her registered Scottish address............all too late now it feels. Have only ever received a PCN at the Scottish address for the 8 minute one on 11th Sept but also have a LOC for that one sent to the English address - that's why worried they will raise another.

Hi, Never received a solicitors letter - just a LOC that says Car Parking Partnership Legal Dept (Yours faithfully then a squiggle J M L________| )then on court papers it says Jayne Leonard (Claimants Legal Representative) which I'm assuming is the squiggle. She is on LinkedIn smiling away............https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayne-leonard-346672129/?originalSubdomain=uk She is very apprehensive of taking it further...........doesn't have the £227 to pay fine never mind £275 - with just having the baby, she's very emotional at the moment. Thinking that I may as well just pay it for her and hope ParkingEye aren't in the process of doing all this again for the one dated 11th Sept. She can't even remember this one and never receiving any paperwork makes it even more frustrating. T.