consumer forums consumerforums Total Bank Charges Returned : £16595128 to 9717 people. The Consumer Forums  
Bank Charges Refunds Survey | Bank Charges Survey Results | 'Buddy' System | Get an email address | Site Map | Registration Problems | FAQ


CAG Products - We think that these will help you to make your claim or Reclaim your Right

These sales also help us to keep helping YOU and keeps this site free of third party adverts!

Small Claims Kit Small Claims Court Guide CallBurner - Skype
CallRecorder Review
Last Will & Testament Kit Fight a Motoring Ticket
 
Alternatively you could purchase a CAG email address here, or maybe you'd prefer our address labels here.


UPDATE: Consumer Forums ConsumerWiki is now LIVE - click here: ConsumerWiki

N.B. Please note - due to postage costs these products are only available in the U.K.



Consumer Action Group envelope labels
You are part of a community of over 185,000 people.
Let your bank know that you won't give in.
Display one of our labels on your envelopes.
Full description here
Sheet of 20 self-adhesive envelope labels
£3.50 inc p&p





Reclaim the Right!
The Lawpack Small Claims Kit contains everything you need to get your bank charges refund. Sample forms, Instruction manual, template forms and an entire set of court forms in .PDF format on CDRom.

Just type in the details of your claim and print them out.


Reclaim the Right!


Sue your bank as often as you like with one Lawpack!!

With a Lawpack and Patricia Pearl’s book on Small Claims, you have everything you need to get your unfair bank charges refunded or assert other consumer rights.
(England & Wales only)

CAG Forum Users Price £11.99
(click image to buy)
Plus £1 P&P



Reclaim the Right!


Small Claims Procedure by Judge Patricia Pearl
An excellent guide for the layperson
Not for use in Scotland
Read BF's Review Here




Stand up to Telephone Harassment

If you use Skype -
Record your phone calls with CallBurner
It's Hot!

Click below to download your
14 day trial copy
CallBurner
Skype CallRecorder download


Read the
Explanation and review here
£31.96 - includes 20% CAG discount
(normally £39.95)

We've managed to negotiate a discount for CAG Users on DIY 'Willpacks'


Click on the image to purchase a Wills kit - £12.99 + £1.00 pp

Remember...you can't take your reclaimed bank charges with you ;-)



Do your Internet search here



Your Internet search-box

Reclaim the Right Ltd. - reg.05783665 in the UK
reg. office:- 923 Finchley Road London NW11 7PE
Do your Internet search here:-

Your Internet searchbox




Come and chat with us here (NB: External site NOT affiliated with CAG)

  CAG Announcements
 
Welcome Guest
Please register
Registration is free
There are no charges for using any of the facilities of this website.
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ. You will have to register before you can post. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
You will also have to register to access our template letters and claims forms
registration is free
Are you being threatened over debts more than 6 years old?
This may be unfair
See our new Unfair Trading Guide
Bought an extended warranty?
Not satisfied?
The warranty may be an example of unfair trading
See our new Unfair Trading Guide
Have you been defaulted?
Would you like to clean up your credit file?
Check it out
Are you a victim of unfair trading?
Check it out
The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regs 2008
Have you been defaulted?
Would you like to clean up your credit file?
Check it out
 
Bank Action Group Debt Action Group
 

Go Back   The Consumer Forums > The Consumer Forums
The Consumer Action Group
> Utilities - Gas, Electricity, Water


Welcome to The Consumer Action Group

and
The Bank Action Group


Before beginning to claim your bank charges be sure to read the FAQ by clicking the link above. Read it carefully and also read as much of the forum material as you can manage before you start claiming your bank charges refund. You will have to register before you can post or view the materials which may assist you in reclaiming your penalty charges: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. Understand what you are doing and you will be able to Reclaim the Right more effectively.

Why don't you come and introduce yourself in the Welcome section at the top of the forum. Then have a look around the rest of it.
Do not post or start claiming until you have read the entire FAQ section and step by step guides and you have a good basic idea of what to do and of the layout of the forum.
Good luck claiming your bank charges.
We strongly suggest that you register under a UserID and not your own name

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 6th September 2006, 15:26   #1 (permalink)
baldasacoot
Basic Account Customer
 
Watch out, there are Claims Touts about!

Challenge your credit file?

Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 7
baldasacoot Novitiate
Default Powergen - Bad Bills and Overcharging

This started about 2002/2003.

When Powergen send an incorrect bill and you provide them with the correct reading and ask for a fresh, correct bill, is it lawful for them to ignore you, carry the old bill over on to the new one and present you with a second, incorrect bill for the second quarter?

When you write again and provide new readings and ask for the first bill to be corrected and sent to you so that you can pay it and also ask that the second bill then be corrected and sent to you so that you can pay that, is it lawful for them to ignore you, carry over the first two bills on to a third bill and present you with yet another incorrect bill for the third quarter?

When you write to them yet again and ask for the bill for the first quarter to be corrected so that you can pay it, and also that the bill for the second quarter be corrected so that you can pay that, and also that the bill for the third quarter be corrected so you can pay that, is it lawful for them to repeat this process for 18 months until the fiasco covers eight or nine quarters and the first incorrect bill is STILL wrong and nothing has been sorted out yet?

And then they send you copies of every incorrect bill since the problem first occurred?

Then, they take you to court for a warrant to fit a pre-payment meter as if you are some thieving, scrounging scalliwag. So you turn up and have it suspended, is it lawful for them to then charge you an extra 9.0% over their normal tarrifff for late payment?

Then, they come round and read the meter themselves and the next thing you know they have cancelled all the previous bills mentioned above and your account is now over £500.00 in credit. But they charge you £10.00 for reading the meter. Is that lawful?

Then, when your credit gets down to £100.00, you decide to register on-line and see for the first time that when they read the meter, they MIS-READ IT as 60,000 units rather than 69,000 units, so they've apparently under-charged you by 10,000 units, except that it's really only 1000 units, but there's that mysterious recredit of £500.00 followed by their own meter reading of 60,000 when the previous reading was 67,500 (no, I haven't had a new meter installed). That is, the estimates should come to about 73,000 while the actual is 74,000 but their estimate is 65,000 as they reset it to 60,000 when it was actually 69,000 or 70,000 (it's easier to believe they mis-read 69 as 60 than 70 as 60).

Is it lawful for them to charge you for 10,000 units at 2006 prices for electricity that they generated and sold between 2002 and 2005, when this mess is entirely their fault in the first place? Of course it's their fault, because even when I report over and under-charging and provide accuarte readings and ask for a corrected bill, they IGNORE ME.

By the way, when they abolished the standing charge and raised the basic rate, my quarterly bills increased by 30%.

You can see why I prefer to receive correct bills and to keep my records straight - in case something like this happens. I'm concerned that if I give them a new meter reading, they'll just add it on to the end of the next bill, all at today's prices which might be over £1000.00.

Also, they did this before in 1994/95 when they were Eastern Electricity and it took over a year of letters to sort out. They simply cannot scrap an incorrect bill and start afresh - they seem ensorcelled to simply add everything together on the next bill and try to sort it out from there, which is impossible for dim-witts with only a primary school education. They need to employ people with at least two "O" levels. I even gave them the figures and did the calculations for them!

Also, my meter seems inaccurate as it still spins (very slowly) even when everything is switched off and the fuses turned off. I have monitored my use for the last 13 weeks and I've been using about 30 units a week.


How do I get this sorted out?


~
baldasacoot is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 6th September 2006, 16:42   #2 (permalink)
ozzywizard
Platinum Account Customer
 
Watch out, there are Claims Touts about!

Challenge your credit file?

Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 874
ozzywizard Informativeozzywizard Informativeozzywizard Informative
Default Re: Powergen - Bad Bills and Overcharging

grr I just typed a great response out for you and my internet froze so lost it. just my luck.

Anyway back to your problem, there is a lot of what you said that is wrong and unlawfull as you very well pointed out. I know this is just a small thing in your issues but the 10 pound for reading the meter is illegal as they are bound to manage your account and obtain reads from you FOC.

My best advise to you is to phone them, do not get into discussion with the CSA who answers but ask to speak to a manager, confirm to them they are a manager and make them aware if your not satisfied with them you will request to speak to the section manager.

Calmly explain to them all of the above and work together to manage your account correctly.

If not satisfied then ask for the section manager.

After this you have a clear case to go to the energy supply ombudsman.


Quote:
Under what circumstances can a customer apply to the Energy Supply
Ombudsman for an independent review of a complaint?
The Energy Supply Ombudsman is there to resolve complaints which have not been
resolved to the customer’s satisfaction through the supplier’s own complaint handling
procedures.
Four criteria have been identified which need to be met before a customer complaint is
considered to have reached “deadlock” and the customer will be given access to the
Energy Supply Ombudsman Scheme. This is when a customer complaints has got to
the position where:
.there is no new information to be gained on the complaint from either the
customer or the supplier;
. the complaint escalation processes have been followed;
. the customer and the supplier still cannot agree to a resolution within the
supplier’s complaint procedures; and
. having more time will not improve this position
.

By following what I said you have followed the escalation process.

Good luck, keep me informed.
ozzywizard is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 7th September 2006, 16:23   #3 (permalink)
baldasacoot
Basic Account Customer
 
Watch out, there are Claims Touts about!

Challenge your credit file?

Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 7
baldasacoot Novitiate
Default Re: Powergen - Bad Bills and Overcharging

Cheers, Ozzywizard (misty morning, clouds in the sky...)

I'll try that and see what happens.


~
baldasacoot is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 8th September 2006, 12:03   #4 (permalink)
ozzywizard
Platinum Account Customer
 
Watch out, there are Claims Touts about!

Challenge your credit file?

Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 874
ozzywizard Informativeozzywizard Informativeozzywizard Informative
Default Re: Powergen - Bad Bills and Overcharging

Good luck and keep us informed.
ozzywizard is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 8th September 2006, 13:52   #5 (permalink)
Surfer01
Classic Account Customer
 
Watch out, there are Claims Touts about!

Challenge your credit file?

Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 300
Surfer01 Novitiate
Default Re: Powergen - Bad Bills and Overcharging

Why on earth are you still registered with them? Change suplier at the earliest opportunity which is about now. I also strongly suggest you write to Energywatch and outlining your compliant. For info have a look at MoneySavingExpert.com ad-free, free to use, Consumer Revenge!
Surfer01 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter The Consumer Forums Replies Last Post
Kensington Overcharging Each Month lawfordgirl Mortgage companies 1 25th February 2007 11:35
Beware of Credit Unions, overcharging... nathal Other Institutions 3 23rd December 2006 09:27
NatWest overcharging; overseas advice please Jonnymcg NatWest Bank 0 28th September 2006 02:39
Tiscali Overcharging DrAndy General Consumer Issues 7 8th August 2006 19:00
Abbey's unfair overcharging High&Dry Abbey Bank 2 3rd June 2006 09:12




Do your Internet search here:
UK Web Image



The Consumer Action Group and The Bank Action Group are registered trademarks
Reclaim the Right Ltd. - reg.05783665 in the UK reg. office:- 923 Finchley Road, London, NW11 7PE

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6 © 2006, Crawlability, Inc.