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Old 16th January 2007, 02:22   #1 (permalink)
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Default Orange/02; data protection contacts./ email complaints

This is extremely difficult to get hold of,in fact you will not find this on any of their websites I know I spent over a week looking.
When you send for the Data Protection Act request they will return a form.
There are 2 options 1 is for basic account details such as billing and your rates etc this is free.
The second is full printouts of numbers dialled.sms sent and payments history.Thi applies both to contract or pay as you go accounts.This req 10.00 P.O payable to orange tm
Their response time is excellent I had mine in 14 days and sent by special delivery which because of the weight cost them around 21.00!!!
Send the bank temp Data protection letter customising this.
Send your 10.00 if applicable with your first request and indicate that you have already sent payment when they send their form.You will need to have any passwords that are registered to put on the form.




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Global House
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Bristol BS32 4BQ


And an e mail;mailto:executive.office@o range.co.uk

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Old 22nd February 2007, 23:14   #2 (permalink)
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Default 02 Data protection contact details

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Good work chaps.................... do you have an address for Vodafone?
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Old 3rd April 2007, 01:17   #4 (permalink)
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The address for Orange is now out of date, the Peterlee office closed at the end of Febuary.

The compliance team are now based in Darlington:-

Orange Compliance Team
Senhouse Road
Darlington
DL1 4YQ


Thank you -now updated.

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I sent Orange template letter complaining that they are charging me for not using direct debit on 20/03... still no reply, do I use the same procedure as the banks does anyone know please?
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It is often easier to leave this until you terminate, then request a repayment. Short-paying just causes more headaches.

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Ok Cheers For That Buzby
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Hi all,

I have just received a credit report and see that i have various bad entries from orange. I wish to write in them regarding these "bad marks" against me but have the following address to do so, but am not sure if it is the right one, can someone please confirm its the right place to send it?
Orange Personal Comm. services Ltd, st james Court, Great Park Road, Almondsbury, Bradley Road, Bristol, BS32 4QJ.

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That's where I'd sent it to - as this is the HQ they'll know where to send it on if the department has moved.
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suggest you send it to the credit referalls department :-

top Floor
Orange
Global House
Senhouse Rd
Darlington
DH1 4YQ.

If you send it to the Bristol address it is doubtfull that it will gety to the correct department
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If you send it to the Bristol address it is doubtful that it will gety to the correct department
I'd suggest it is no more doubtful to use the HQ address than Darlington. Since any formal service for non compliance would need to be served on the Bristol address, there's a synergy in not casting wide and free with outlying branches of their empire!
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Hi all,

This is a general post regarding O2 but may apply to all contract network providers. I haven't gone back on contract yet, so things may have changed in the last few months.. (please let me know if this is the case).

Until very recently I worked in the telecomms / mobile industry and have a PDA which I used for a lot of data applications, such as email on the move.

On my personal contract I qualified for itemised billing, which includes data, however...

and this is the stinker:

the data is CHARGED per megabyte but ITEMISED by duration... What started of as a simple enquiry for myself and my customers has led to a protracted arguement spanning 18 months.

I will reduce this issue as much as possible:

me: hi, how can you charge me for data usage per megabyte when my bill is itemised by duration - how am I supposed to know what I have used?

o2 person: (after me explaining in very small words what I mean and him checking with the "supervisor")

"I don't know, that is just the way the computer provides the information"

me: so if you charge me £10 for 3 MB how do I know I have used it? Especially when my PDA says I have only used 1MB (these aren't 100% correct, but I know roughly the calculations to make based on my experience - it saves time when messing with call centre automotons)

If I make a 1 minute call that it itemised - who I have called, the duration, the cost and how that cost has been achieved. Your statement is telling me I have been online to "mobile.o2.co.uk" for 9 hours, but hasn't indicated
how much data has been sent / recieved and therefore why I have been charged what I have.

I applied a data tariff based on what the o2 computers were saying I had used i.e. according to o2 i was using around 7mb per month, so they added an inclusive 5mb package - so my bill should have been cost of 5mb (around £5 i think) + 2mb x £3 so £11.


Within 2 months my data bill alone was nearly £70. I phoned again (approx 12th call by now) and told them this was unacceptable - if they could not show me what I was being charged for I would not pay it.

I cancelled my DD, and when o2 accounts called again I told them of my problem and said I would not pay until this issue had been sorted. The numpty told me it was my problem and I had to call their customer services, to which I said I wouldn't. They also called me twice at work, the call being put through to me as "o2 are on the phone cos you haven't paid your bill" due to the nature of the issue some my work colleagues were familiar with the problem, however the embarrasment of this could be horrendous!!

I didnt hear anything but my phone did get cut off and I recieved a statement with another £330 being charged for termination. I called again, reiterated the problem and was promised a call back.

(N.B. I have now been promised a total of 7 call-backs - the most recent from a call centre manager (apparently) who laughed and said "I know you have heard this before, but I PROMISE to call you back by the latest tomorrow afternoon... 7 months later I am STILL waiting!).

I was then contacted by Westcot a collections agency for o2 regarding the outstanding amount. I have now made another 15 calls or so (from my currently pay as you go phone which is costing me a fortune!!) to explain the situation. They have basically said we can speak to o2 and see what they say but I still owe the money, they can accept a settlement of £350 (actual figure £560 + costs and rising).

This is where it gets confusing, and where the average person would have caved in - I probably would have too, except in this case I know that I am right, as I know about mobile phones (nothing about finance or law but hey!!) and I know I am right. I have told Westcot the amount is in dispute with O2 and I won't be paying a penny until the issue gets resolved.

Westcot say the debt is a debt and that it is up to O2 to inform them if the amount is to be cancelled / altered.

O2 say (through Westcot - I have asked them to ask o2 to review my account 3/4 times - each time has come back unaltered) the amount is correct.

O2 now say to me the account is finished, amounts have been paid by Westcot (some foreign sounding dude who was obviously new).

Westcot have sent me letters threating to take me to court, so I have told them essentially to bring it on, so I then got letters saying my account had been reported to door knockers, and I called Westcot saying if these people came round they wouldn't be let in as the amount they were charging was not correct and that the amount was in dispute.

My last correspondance was March 2007 and since then I have heard nothing.

This though is where it gets fun: I have been on the banking charge forums and essentially although a mobile phone contract is NOT a credit agreement with the network, it is a service agreement so the Data Protection Act is enforceable:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...-consumer.html


1) As the amount with them was in dispute they should not have passed my details onto Westcot

2) Although nothing was in writing (DAMN shame!) I have asked for written evidence of the charges levied, which i have not recieved.

3) The termination charges have been added due O2 cancelling my contract, which surely they can't do if the amount is under dispute?


I am going to wait and see what, if anything, arrives from Westcot and will advise on what happens next - is it too much to hope they hav given it up as a bad job??!!!
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As far as I am aware, only O2 do this, and it is a throwback to when their billing system was setup for CSD (Circuit Switched Data) where it was as much as you could push though at 9600 in the allotted time. Mb charges were not applied.

The arrival of GPRS changed this, and the charge per Mb was introduced, but as the system knew when the data channel was opened, it timed for this element, but (supposedly) did not charge because the Mb charge superseded it. I left the network due to insufficient coverage and never had an issue, but the duration was never charged due to it not having a monetary value. There is a possibility that their data charge is only per Mb as their price list promotes, and the time per minute is equal to £0.00 which is why to amount for it is shown.

Since this is a billing issue, I think OFCOM would be interested in this as it has 'industry' connotations - and more serious trouble for O2 if they're wrong. Why not raise a formal complaint?
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As far as I am aware, only O2 do this, and it is a throwback to when their billing system was setup for CSD (Circuit Switched Data) where it was as much as you could push though at 9600 in the allotted time. Mb charges were not applied.

The arrival of GPRS changed this, and the charge per Mb was introduced, but as the system knew when the data channel was opened, it timed for this element, but (supposedly) did not charge because the Mb charge superseded it. I left the network due to insufficient coverage and never had an issue, but the duration was never charged due to it not having a monetary value. There is a possibility that their data charge is only per Mb as their price list promotes, and the time per minute is equal to £0.00 which is why to amount for it is shown.

Since this is a billing issue, I think OFCOM would be interested in this as it has 'industry' connotations - and more serious trouble for O2 if they're wrong. Why not raise a formal complaint?
Yes later on one of the bods went onto some different system (from the Gateway platform where most consumer accounts are held) and told me it was because in x y & z months i had used a b & c amounts of data, so the information is there somewhere.

There are 4 reasons I haven't gone further; 1/2) time and money - I left my good job and have now returned to being a full time student and also work full time to keep my head above water, 3) I wasn't aware of a site like this 6 months ago and the support I could get and 4) the most dreaded reason of all - apathy - I figured I could argue it out when the time came, and now seeing as things have gone quiet I don't want to rock the boat so to speak...

Having said all of that if anyone else has the same or similar problems I have one of my old bills that show this and would be happy to come out of the woodwork & assist with anyone else's situation.
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Does anyone have an O2 contract mobile on a minutes contract that regularly uses a decent amount of data? Can you confirm if O2 still do this?
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