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My oh got a new van in feb from a trader,not got new keeper part of v5c.

Sent off for new v5c again as trader obviously not sent it off,only to receive a letter stating to change over new keeper details he has to pay £25.

 

Has anyone else had this?

 

 

New keepers details was sent to dvla in post,he never accepted vehicle without v5c. So who's fault is it? its certainly not his!!!

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ANYBODY WHO NEEDS INFO ON YOUR LEHMANS MORTGAGE either SPML/PML/LMC/SPPL; the following are DIRECT tel#s, of the investigating & prosecuting organisations:

 

DO NOT say you are from CAG-only directly affected or a concerned citizen. 

1. Companies House: Kevin Hughes(Compliance Manager-main) @ 02920 380 633 

2. CH : Lee Jenkins(prosecuting Amany Attia(MD) for SPML/PML) @ 02920 380 643 

3. CH : Mark Youde(accounts compliance) @ 02920 380 955 

4. Companies Investigation Branch(CIB) : Charlotte Allan @ 0207 596 6108 (part of the Insolvency Service) investigating all the Lehman lenders 

5. CIB : Jeremy Pilcher('unofficial'-consumer/company lawyer) : tel#0207 637 6236  

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Subprimefees/#detail

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Not DVLA's fault so why should it be free?

 

Never accept a vehicle without the new keeper portion of the V5C.

New keepers details was sent to dvla in post,he never accepted vehicle without it.

ANYBODY WHO NEEDS INFO ON YOUR LEHMANS MORTGAGE either SPML/PML/LMC/SPPL; the following are DIRECT tel#s, of the investigating & prosecuting organisations:

 

DO NOT say you are from CAG-only directly affected or a concerned citizen. 

1. Companies House: Kevin Hughes(Compliance Manager-main) @ 02920 380 633 

2. CH : Lee Jenkins(prosecuting Amany Attia(MD) for SPML/PML) @ 02920 380 643 

3. CH : Mark Youde(accounts compliance) @ 02920 380 955 

4. Companies Investigation Branch(CIB) : Charlotte Allan @ 0207 596 6108 (part of the Insolvency Service) investigating all the Lehman lenders 

5. CIB : Jeremy Pilcher('unofficial'-consumer/company lawyer) : tel#0207 637 6236  

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Subprimefees/#detail

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New keepers details was sent to dvla in post,he never accepted vehicle without it.

 

Why? To whom were they sent?

 

What is supposed to happen is that both parties complete and sign the V5C. The RK gives the green portion of the new keeper and then sends off the remainder to DVLA.

 

DVLA then send a new V5C to the new keeper.

 

There is no requirement for the new keeper to send the green portion anywhere at all - it acts as a temporary V5 - unless the new V5 it not received; then the follow the process on the V62 and the £25 fee is waived.

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Which is what he has done,no v5c received so sent the v62 form off with new keepers details (green part) letter sent back stating

 

From march 2004 dvla introduced a fee for an application for a registration certificate. Reason for this correspondence is stated below:

The payment of £25 was not received with your application. Please return your application with a cheque or potal order made payable to dvla in the enclosed envelope.

ANYBODY WHO NEEDS INFO ON YOUR LEHMANS MORTGAGE either SPML/PML/LMC/SPPL; the following are DIRECT tel#s, of the investigating & prosecuting organisations:

 

DO NOT say you are from CAG-only directly affected or a concerned citizen. 

1. Companies House: Kevin Hughes(Compliance Manager-main) @ 02920 380 633 

2. CH : Lee Jenkins(prosecuting Amany Attia(MD) for SPML/PML) @ 02920 380 643 

3. CH : Mark Youde(accounts compliance) @ 02920 380 955 

4. Companies Investigation Branch(CIB) : Charlotte Allan @ 0207 596 6108 (part of the Insolvency Service) investigating all the Lehman lenders 

5. CIB : Jeremy Pilcher('unofficial'-consumer/company lawyer) : tel#0207 637 6236  

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Subprimefees/#detail

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Which is what he has done,no v5c received so sent the v62 form off with new keepers details (green part) letter sent back stating

 

Quite simply they are wrong.

 

This links tot he downloadable V62 - see the first bullet point under section D.

 

When you sent it off, you should have ticked 'no' in the black box in section 2 and entered the date on which you acquired the vehicle; Ticked the first box in section 3; ticked the second box in section 4.

 

You must, as you stated you did, send the green new keeper's slip with the form.

 

If you did all that, I would write back and tell them that no fee is payable because section D applies

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  • 1 year later...

From the DVLA V62:

"You do not have to pay a fee in the following circumstances.

• If you are the new keeper and the previous keeper failed to tell us

about the change, you must have the New keeper’s details section

(V5C/2) from the V5C and send it to us with this application form."

 

Also got a email reply from DVLA stating that as long as you have the V5C/2 you can just send that along the v62 for getting a new V5C at no cost...

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