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    Hi there

    My partner and I have a mortgageicon, current account and personal loan (all joint) with IF. The disputed debt is in respect of a credit card account in my sole name, but which was linked to our joint plan.

    When this credit card went into arrears I was chased by Blair Oliver & Scott and have been paying them.

    I sent a CCA request on 5 March, to which they responded by sending a copy of a pre-completed 'confirmation of application details' form detailing our plan number and mine and my partners' detail (which is not signed anywhere) and then stapled to that is a copy of a direct debiticon form signed by me.

    Is this a copy of a signed credit agreement?

    I have read many posts on here on this subject and I decided last month that they have not sent me a copy of the credit agreement so I ceased making payments to BOS (aka HBOSicon - Halifax Bank of Scotland?). I'm now getting calls approximately 3 times per day which i've been ignoring because I know they are committing an offence by chasing me for these payments while the debt is unsubstantiated by them.

    I've thought about reclaiming the charges but that would not clear the debt. The credit limit was only 2k and despite paying the minimum payments since around 2003 the balance is still about 3k due to extortionate interesticon being applied. The charges only total around 1k.

    Does anyone know if i'm doing the right thing by ignoring them until they eventually give up? Should I write to them and remind them that they haven't sent me the correct credit agreement which is why i'm not paying? And finally, does anyone know what the repercussions might be if I keep ignorning them?

    Thanks guys, any advice is much appreciated.

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    Default Re: b8byd v HBOS

    I've today sent them a fax asking for all future correspondence to be in writing. Watch this space...

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    Default Re: b8byd v HBOS

    Update:

    2/7/07 - 'Formal Demand for Payment' from Robinson Way & Co

    4/7/07 - Threatening letter from Robinson Way & Co

    4/7/07 - I wrote to IF as follows:
    Please find enclosed [my CCA request to first DCAicon]. I am astonished that despite the fact a copy of the credit agreement has not been provided to me, you appear to have instructed a different agency to collect the above debt from me, as I have been contacted by Robinson Way & Co.

    Until such time as you can substantiate the debt, the debt is in dispute.

    I am sending a copy of this letter to Robinson Way & Co.

    Please do not instruct any agency to contact me in relation to the above debt until such time as you have substantiated it by sending me a true signed copy of the credit agreement in relation to it.
    And also wrote to Robinson Way & Co to a similar effect.

    10/7/07 - Letter from Robinson Way & Co confirming receipt of my request for a copy of the credit agreement, which they have asked their client for.

    13/7/07 - Letter from IF apologising for causing me to be unhappy with their service, enclosing a copy of their complaints procedure.

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    Default Re: b8byd v HBOS

    I have today received what IF purports to be a credit agreement for the purposes of my CCA request.

    I understand that for a credit agreement to comply with the CCA, it must contain certain prescribed terms. Sch 6 sets out what prescribed terms must be present, and these are:

    The amount of credit
    The credit limit
    The repayments
    The interesticon rate

    The agreement IF have sent contains all but the first of those prescribed terms. Clause 1 of the agreement is as follows:

    1. Your credit limit and your APR

    1.1 We will decide what your credit limit is and we will write to tell you what it is. We may change your credit limit at any time by giving you notice.

    Then there is some handwriting at the top of the next page which says:

    Credit card [pound sign]2,000
    Greta Potter RAP3 09/01/03

    Is the fact that a term containing the credit limit is not contained within the agreement enough for it to be invalid for the purposes of the CCA?

    Thank you

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    Default Re: b8byd v HBOS

    I've just realised this is probably in the wrong page - could a mod please move this thread to the credit agreements area?

    Thank you!

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    Default b8byd v HBOS

    Please ignore the above about moving this thread (sorry!)

    Looks like the agreement is enforceable.

    Subject access requesticon ready to go tomorrow......

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    Default Credit agreement from HBOS (IF credit card)

    Here is a link to my thread in the Intelligent Finance area, but I think my question is more relevant here.......

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...8byd-hbos.html

    Is there a mod who can move my whole thread to this section, or maybe just have a look at my query?

    Many thanks

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    Default Re: Credit agreement from HBOS (IF credit card)

    Here is a link to the actual document they sent me. Would somebody knowledgable mind having a look, and advising whether they think its a property executed credit agreement for the purposes of the CCA 1974?

    b8byd/Intelligent Finance Credit Card - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

    Link to the Consumer Credit Act 1974

    Thank you!

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    Default Re: b8byd v HBOS

    2 threads merged and thread title changed

    please keep to the one thread when asking questions or updating .This is in your own interesticon as you will get much more informed advice when people can see at a glance what you have done so far







    I am not a legal expert my advice is given without prejudice and is purely my opinion only. If you are in doubt please seek professional advice.

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    Default Re: b8byd v HBOS

    Thank you for merging them! I got some advice from the 'general debt' section in the end.

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