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    Default Ready to take Abbey to court - need help & advice please!

    I have sent the 14 day letter to Abbeyicon, including spreadsheet detailing charges, dates etc. I received a standard to which I sent 2nd letter. They have written to me saying that their investigations could take another 4 weeks and will write to me after this time to let me know how the situation is progressing! This letter totally disregarded my 2nd letter! I am annoyed and want to take them to court for my claim of charges which amount to £1300. I have filled in most of the on-line claim form, but really stuck on completing the wording of my claim to the best effect. The claim was for usual charges, unpaid direct debits, going over overdrafticon limit, etc. My husband was made redundanticon 4 years ago, he got another job after 3 months, but had to take a £7000, pa pay cut. We found it very hard to manage and explained all this to Abbey. Despite this there were occasions when Abbey charged us over £150 in 1 month, I think this is disgusting!

    Any help/advice greatly appreciated.

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    Default Re: Ready to take Abbey to court - need help & advice please!

    Firstly you need to be sure you read all the FAQ's on the forum. Ensure you know what youre doing before you start. You have to follow the guidelines on here if you want to be truly successful and ensure youve covered yourself on everything.

    Send Prelim + 14 days
    then lbaicon + 14 days, and if no offer of your charges back, then and only then should you file at court. You shouldnt jump the gun. Wait the full 28 days before filing MCOL, because if you dont, no court would look kindly upon you jumping in too quick to claim. We are all behind you to help you through this, but you have to follow the steps carefully to ensure victory.

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...se-read-these/

    Best of luck, but dont get down hearted, there will be many delaying tactics by the bank along the way. But they can all be overcome with all our help.

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    Default Re: Ready to take Abbey to court - need help & advice please!

    Thanks Fendy.

    I have sent the 14 day letter and only response was that they are still looking into my complaint. I sent 2nd letter after further 14 days, both recorded delivery. First letter was sent on 16 April. So I have done what you sgguested, i.e. prelim + 14 days, another 14 days and 2nd letter. Not sure what lbaicon is? We've not had any offer of charges back so this is why I feel the time to go to court. Sorry, a bit new to all of this and find it all so mind boggling, but I think I've followed the procedure correctly?

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    Default Re: Ready to take Abbey to court - need help & advice please!

    Kim, if you follow Fendy's advice, go back and read the FAQs, it tells you what to do almost every step of the way.

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...se-read-these/

    You really have to be very much prepared to take on the banks now, they're playing hard ball and will pounce on any little error in your case.

    The letters you need to write are in here.

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...lates-library/

    When you're really sure about what you are doing, then file the claim and then spend every moment you can reading about the process and what you can expect to happen and what you need to do.

    Please take your time and prepare properly, it would be dreadful to lose because you overlooked something.

    Good luck with the claim and if you need advice, support or have questions you can't find answers to, post back here and someone will advise.

    This site is all about self help, with a little extra from others along the way.


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    Default Re: Ready to take Abbey to court - need help & advice please!

    Hi Les,

    for what it's worth, I would advise strongly against using MCOL, and use the N1 form instead.................. it's a much better way of filing your claim

    All advice offered here is my opinion only based on what I would do in a given situation. If you wish to act on it you do so at your own discretion
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    Default Re: Ready to take Abbey to court - need help & advice please!

    Hi Kim, from what I can see youve followed everything so far fine. So time to start court claim. For information LBA is letter before actionicon and as youve already sent this then its fine to start court now. All the best.

    Its up to you whether you file at your loca court or do it through MCOL (Money claim Onlin). I used the MCOL and found everything fine, but each to their own. Choice is yours. Heres the Particulars of Claim below when you file. All the very best. Fendy xxxx

    MONEY CLAIM ONLINE PARTICULARS OF CLAIM
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    TOTAL WON TO DATE: £25,400
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    Default Re: Ready to take Abbey to court - need help & advice please!

    Have anotehr question which I can't find in the FAQ's. We filled in the N1 form last night and wrote out all the necessary 'minimum' details as advised. Our real problems began when my OH was made redundanticon and although found another job the salary was significantly less. We contacted our banks to explain the problem but they continued charging us up to £160 per month in charges (Abbeyicon) do I write this on the form as support of our appeal?

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    Default Re: Ready to take Abbey to court - need help & advice please!

    We have all copies of the N1 form & schedule of charges, can someone tell me how many copies ot send to the court, also do I send a copy to Abbeyicon?


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    Default Re: Ready to take Abbey to court - need help & advice please!

    You need to send three copies of everything to the court. One they will keep, one they stamp and send to Abbeyicon, one they stamp and send back to you.

    In case there was a problem I made four copies, gave three to the court and kept one for myself. Didn't fancy having to till it all in again if they got lost or something.

    Good luck.


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    Default Re: Ready to take Abbey to court - need help & advice please!

    Thank-you!


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    Default Re: Ready to take Abbey to court - need help & advice please!

    Received a letter from Abbeyicon today, offering us a measly £240, from a claim of £1300. Pathetic. I politely rejected their offer and informed them that court proceddings have begun.


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    Default Re: Ready to take Abbey to court - need help & advice please!

    We initially went through the Financial Ombudsmanicon for my mentally ill daughter (aged 35) to recover £290 in charges - their process proved too convoluted.

    Then in March this year we wrote with our claim direct to Abbeyicon - who sent us all the statements except the ones with the bank charges on! Plus advice how to stay in Credit (when my daughter had already closed her account some 2 years earlier.) Luckily my daughter by some miracle had most of her statements anyway.

    After 2 more letters we received a cheque for £20 which we promptly returned and commenced court proceedings in our local county courticon in Kent. Our total claim was for £312 - including interesticon.

    This week, Abbey have offered us 65% of our claim to withdraw our action - albeit they have filed a defence.

    With the possibility of a High Court judgement in the offing, we have deigned to accept this improved offer from Abbey.


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    Default Re: Ready to take Abbey to court - need help & advice please!

    Despite sending the rejection letter Abbeyicon have credited our account! Also received 2 more letters from them today, one saying they are still looking into our complaint and the other saying they are sorry we are unhappy with the way our complaint is being dealt with and will look into it!! 'Shabby' is definitely what I would call them!


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    Default Re: Ready to take Abbey to court - need help & advice please!

    We have just done an MCOL claim for our Barclaysicon account and realised we may have calculated the interesticon wrongly for Abbeyicon claim which we did using N1 form. Difference of 5p per day, less than claimed. What should we do? Should we inform the court?

    We received Issue of notice form yesterday for our claim. What do we do with this? I have read somewhere that we need to send a copy to Abbey's solicitors, if so how can I find the address, there is no mention of this on the form. Also as Abbey has credited our account despite rejection letter do we need to inform the court of this?

    Sorry so many questions, this is all so mind bogling!

    Thanks.


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    Default Re: Ready to take Abbey to court - need help & advice please!

    Difference of 5p per day, less than claimed
    .Don't bother amending. It's trivial and won't affect your claim
    I have read somewhere that we need to send a copy to Abbeyicon's solicitors
    ,That's when you file via MCOL. With N1 you should have included the SoC,which will have been sent to Abbey with your claim.


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    Default Re: Ready to take Abbey to court - need help & advice please!

    Thanks so much!! Yes we did send SoC with N1 form, plus further copy to our bank. Is the notice of issue just for reference then? have read it through and I can't see anything that says we need to do anything!

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    Default Re: Ready to take Abbey to court - need help & advice please!

    Is the notice of issue just for reference then
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    Default Re: Ready to take Abbey to court - need help & advice please!

    We received a letter of notice that acknowledgement of service has been filed from the courts today saying that Abbeyicon are intending to defend all of the claim.

    I am getting scared now, I knew it could come to this. Is there anything I can do to be prepared for a possible court hearing? In everyones experience are Abbey likely to attend court?


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    Default Re: Ready to take Abbey to court - need help & advice please!

    Don't panic Kim, Abbeyicon will submit a templated defence (everyone's is the same), next step might be filling in aqicon although most courts are skipping that step and going straight to directions (sometimes at hearings). Then and only then will you get a court date, sit tight cos Abbey will pay up, they just wait till the 11th hour cos they're trying to scare you into backing down.

    Have a read of my thread if you want, I've won so my first claim is settled but number 2 is up and running.

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...ight=Robdblynd

    Relax, it's all going very much the way everyone else's has gone before you. Just read up on the stages as they happen and you'll be fine. Post back if you want clarification, advice and just general support, we're all in this together and we will help where we can.


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    Default Re: Ready to take Abbey to court - need help & advice please!

    Thanks so much, just the reasurrance I needed!!

    Okay, we have received a letter from Abbeyicon offering us more money if we settle ourt of court, nothing like enough though, they are not even covering charges let alone interesticon and court costs! We haven't replied back yet, do I need to? Today we recveived an aqicon - must admit I feel so deflated again and haven't really got he £100 fee. But not going to let them win.

    Appreciate any advice on filling in the AQ and whether or not to send a reply to Abbey.

    Thanks,
    Kim & Les



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