Written by John Kruse, one of the leading experts on Bailiff Law, this consumer friendly guide is essential reading for anyone who comes into contact with a bailiff.
The book is easy to understand and clearly explains the rights
a bailiff has, and also what they cannot do when collecting debts and repossessing goods etc.
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I would have thought after all the complaints about the forum being hard to navigate/find information that people would have welcomed a structured approach to handling information.
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I would have thought after all the complaints about the forum being hard to navigate/find information that people would have welcomed a structured approach to handling information.
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...and it is inevitable that this will always be a work in progress...
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Dave, as requested, 1 destructive suggestion, 2 constructive:
(1) The screen page, and indeed the brain can hold only so many words at any one time. Go over that limit and redundant words will push essential words overboard out of consciousness, out of recall. If the new CAG Wiki pages are likened to lifeboats lowered from the Titanic, they look overcrowded to the point of sinking. A ruthless economist needs to push some words overboard.
(2) The second most difficult person to understand is a lawyer speaking lawyer's language, the most difficult is a layman speaking lawyer's language. Recently a judge went on record demanding that a claimant express himself in everyday English or he would dismiss his case. Whereas precise circumspect language is unavoidable in law, many CAGgers are painting by numbers. In the front part of key template letters, could there be added a brief, indiscreet, everyday English translation, what on earth is the letter saying -- a Rosetta Stone.
(3) With a million threads exploding away, a powerful keyword search engine is paramount. The present CAG engine is defective in places. It can find "5000" (for £5K limit) but cannot find "12" (for £12 OFT guideline). If asked to search for "Dave and Wiki" it would search for "Dave or Wiki".
My congratulations. An excellent idea this CAG Wiki, no doubt an excellent product in time.
It's like an encyclopedia (like www.wikipedia.org), but here it's simply for access to information in an attempt to cut down some of the announcements and 'stickies' that clutter up the forum.
Discussion forums are for discussion ;-)
Wikis (I wish to God they had named it something else) are for information store.
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Hi, I've had a look and I am not sure what its for...LOL
Having a blonde moment but whats a wiki???
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Think of it as a properly indexed compilation of all the best (and proven) bits of the forum. A lot of threads have hundreds of posts, asking the same questions, and debating the same issues - a wiki is a condensed and relevant version of this...
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Dave, as requested, 1 destructive suggestion, 2 constructive:
(1) The screen page, and indeed the brain can hold only so many words at any one time. Go over that limit and redundant words will push essential words overboard out of consciousness, out of recall. If the new CAG Wiki pages are likened to lifeboats lowered from the Titanic, they look overcrowded to the point of sinking. A ruthless economist needs to push some words overboard.
(2) The second most difficult person to understand is a lawyer speaking lawyer's language, the most difficult is a layman speaking lawyer's language. Recently a judge went on record demanding that a claimant express himself in everyday English or he would dismiss his case. Whereas precise circumspect language is unavoidable in law, many CAGgers are painting by numbers. In the front part of key template letters, could there be added a brief, indiscreet, everyday English translation, what on earth is the letter saying -- a Rosetta Stone.
(3) With a million threads exploding away, a powerful keyword search engine is paramount. The present CAG engine is defective in places. It can find "5000" (for £5K limit) but cannot find "12" (for £12 OFT guideline). If asked to search for "Dave and Wiki" it would search for "Dave or Wiki".
My congratulations. An excellent idea this CAG Wiki, no doubt an excellent product in time.
(1) - fair point, I'll skim it down a bit.
(2) - yep - no problem, I'll start one. The point of the wiki is that it's editable by everyone, so if I miss bits (which I will!!!) then anyone can put them back in. Vandals can be spotted very quickly and anyone can roll back to the latest 'good' version of any page.
(3) - do you mean the search in the Wiki or here in the forum?
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Never tried Wki search yet. I meant search on the site in general, selecting individual forums manually where required. Not wholly understood where Wiki sits in the site map, whether Wiki contents can also be covered in a site search, i.e. whether Wiki can also be selected or deselected, just like Lloyds Forum.
Once a keyword has been discovered inside a big thread, it is still a job pinpointing the specific page out of 15, each page containing 20 postings. When I tried "search by keyword within thread" it never seemed to work for me.
Well, the plan is to take the information out of the discussion forum, and leave it as just that: a discussion forum.
Obviously, there must be information in the forum too, but I think seperation will make both easer to use and to find what you are looking for.
Discussion in the Wiki will be about the information, and discussion here will be for helping people.
We are currently looking at ways to completely redesign the site, but this time with more thought behind it; as it stands the site pretty much get too busy too quickly for us to be able to sit back and actually design a nice, easy to use layout.
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for instance, you can see 'articles' that are unfinished or need cleaning.
There are (will be) many pages in there that will hold all the information in one place - in categories, rather than in the rather sporadic way it is held at the moment.
If you use the search in the wiki for say, "co-operative", it will either (if you click "Go") take you straight to our page about the co-op, where you can find contact details etc...
Search for "DPA" and it will tell you about the Data Protection Act, but with links to related searches, like "Information Commissioner" etc...
There is also a step by step guide with context sensitive words to click on to find out about those as well.
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To answer the question from the l'infant terrible, I went and googled
"definition of wikipedia", with this result:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A definition is a concise statement explaining the meaning of a term, word or phrase. The term to be defined is known as the definiendum (Latin: that which is to be defined). The form of words which defines it is known as the definiens (Latin: that which is doing the defining).
I suspect Dave has in mind not an encyclopaedia of definitions, as it will not try to cover everything, more like everything perceived to be currently useful, without going off a tangent, i.e.
A Claimants' Filofax
Perhaps the discussion forums for controversy and debate, and the Wiki for the settled consensus?
Perhaps the discussion forums for controversy and debate, and the Wiki for the settled consensus?
Yes, but of course the forum should still be used for people to get help understanding the info in the 'filofax' and for help.
The chat room (yes, it will be back), should be used for instant urgent information.
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Looks good. Actually a very sensible idea - occasionally good nuggets of information get buried in the forum, and then there are a few threads where the signal gets drowned in noise (*ahem*). I have some considerable knowledge of Wikipedia and the MediaWiki software, the search facilities are good, and in terms of building an editable reference its feature set makes it practically second to none.
Two suggestions I would like to make straight off the bat:
1. Upgrade - the 1.6 series is no longer supported. 1.10 was released a while ago, and should be good for a while. It's important to keep it up-to-date.
2. De-uglify the URL by getting rid of the "index.php" - it's usually straightforward in most cases, but if you are one of the exceptions I can help you out with it.
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I would like to help put stuff on there, and help out with the often-underappreciated (at least on the 'Pedia) task of cleaning up, but cannot at the moment as it would be illegal for me to do so (and anyone else besides Dave, in fact) because of the copyright notice on the front page. I'm game for a lot of things, but 10 years in prison for copyright infringement is not one of them.
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