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    Question This is an odd one!

    Hi, just wondered if anyone could help.
    I'm going through a rather lengthy and onesided divorceicon (not on my side!).
    My nearly ex has often requested the return of some personal items he left at my house. I am agreeable to this but my solicitor says the return must be on condition that he returns items he took from me and my daughter...so...as the value of what he took is much greater...he just ignores the issue.
    Well its been going on now for about 2.5 years and I still have his stuff clogging up the spare room. Not much value but bulky items.
    Seeing as he will not resolve the issue of returning items...can I charge him storage charges?
    Any thoughts anyone...I'd ask my solicitor but she'd probably say I should sign my house, car, cats & daughter over to him


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    Default Re: This is an odd one!

    I would suggest that you send him prelim 14 days, then lbaicon 14 days, requesting the return of your items x, y, x. Make sure you send a list of the items with description so there can be no doubt. On 28th day, take him to Small Claims. Do it on an N1 rather than MCOL, as you'll probably need more space than MCOL allows.

    Don't worry about his stuff for now. He can counter-claim for his stuff if he wants to. And he probably will once he gets his N1. Problem solved.

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    When this happened to me and my ex kept refusing to make proper arrangements to collect his carp from the house my solicitor told me that provided I had kept the items for a "reasonable time" - in my case 6 months and that I now wanted shot of it and use of the room it took I could put the items in a proper Storage Facility for a short period.

    I put them in a professional Storage Facility and paid for the first two weeks (about £18) giving them instructions to destroy the contents if they are not collected. My solicitor then wrote to him, telling him where they were and lo and behold he collected his stuff on the last day of the 2 weeks.

    I was told that if I wanted to put them in storage for longer I could bill him for it, but he'd be unlikely to pay. The threat of destruction of his property seemed to spur him in to action.

    I noticed your wry comment about your solicitor, as an "old hand" with Family Law (twice divorced) I would advise standing up for yourself, telling her what YOU want and remembering that she acts on YOUR instructions and therefore may not agree with you all the time, but is paid to ADVISE you. I would ask her to be stronger in her ministrations for the return of YOUR property also.

    I hope it works out for you.


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    Ooh! Bookworm.

    Nice advice - I'd tell the Solicitor that this is what you are doing/going to do/have done and let her get on with the divorceicon settlement!


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    Hi and thanks both,
    I do want to make a small claimicon against him for my possessions (bought by me before we married...receipts...bank statements etc as proof), and another for a loan of £5000 he had from me but dnies (again I have proof). My solicitor is totally useless, I'm sure she thinks she's acting for him! When we split, he returned to South Yorks to his Mothers (where he came from), but it turns out that he used our separation to get a council house. I don't know his address, and my solicitor just says..oh well if I asked his solicitor he wouldn't tell me! I haven't a clue how to get his address and don't want to use one of those pay searches, as I can't afford to, and have heard they aren't much good!


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    Default Re: This is an odd one!

    Zimmie.

    You need another Solicitor.

    Even if you are on legal aid you should be able to change as this one's not appearing to act in your interests.

    I think I might be doing a little "detective work" (192.com etc) to try and find out his address, but even without it your Solicitor should be dealing with HIS solicitor and making your points for you.

    If you don't have an address for him I would advise changing solicitors and then either getting them to go after him for your stuff, or at least advsing you on whether you could serve your Claim to his solicitors office.




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    Default Re: This is an odd one!

    Hi CAGisforME, I think its probably a bit late for a new solicitor...the decree nisi was granted last year, I just won't go for the decree absolute as my solicitor says I should agree to a clean break settlement, which is what the ex wants obviously...which means I say bye bye to my possessions and money. Hopefully I'm meeting her soon so will lay it on the line, and mention having a small claims served on him at his solicitors office...if she can't give me the address! I'll also have a look at 192.com.
    Thanks very much. Zim


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    Default Re: This is an odd one!

    As these items were purchased prior to the marriageicon, they should not be drawn into the complexities of the divorceicon settlement anyway - only marital property is dealt with in this way AFAIK. Therefore, take him to small claims.

    *EDIT* however, this could be changed if there is legitimate argument for it BECOMING marital property during the course of the marriage. You probably need to consult with a solicitor(yours or another) to deduce whether it would be classed as marital property or not prior to proceeding. A small claims court will look dimly on a suit brought that should be dealt with as part of the divorce proceedings, so better to clarify this first - not the simplest of situations.

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    Zimmie - I have every sympathy and can see why you won't agree to a clean break whilst he is still in possession of your items.

    If they don't or can't form part of the divorceicon then you will have to issue proceedings.

    You CAN however, still change solicitors, if you feel this one isn't acting in your best interests! However if you are going to sue independantly for the items there seems little point, other than peace of mind.

    Good Luck


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    Default Re: This is an odd one!

    Hi and thanks both, I'm absorbing it all. The items he took were purchased by me before we married, 1 item was a pc I bought for my daugther, I can't really prove I bought it for my daughter...but he claims it was a birthday gift from me to him...the receipt shows it was purchased about 6 weeks after his birthday. Same story with a DVD player, he says I bought it for his Mom's birthday, but receipt shows it was bought 4 months before her birthday. Basically he was living between here and his Mother's, taking things from me on a 'I'll bring it back soon' basis. He ripped me off big style, and when I had nothing left, he went back to his Mother's and never returned!
    I've done a search on 192.com but he doesn't appear. I'm determined to get compensation...even if my solicitor isn't!
    Any further ideas on how to track him down would be appreciated


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    Default Re: This is an odd one!

    any library in the county where he lives will have the latest electoral register, by law he has to be on there, might be worth the drive

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