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    Default 'Claire' v Natwest **WON**

    Hi all,

    Starting a quest with Natwesticon for an unfortunate
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    Please read here for background on this claim:

    Please help change my mood about Banks

    SARicon sent 19/04/07.

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    thailand with regards to the original post, can i ask if the account is over its limit as we speak? are the benefits the only thing going into the account? What has been the cause of it? was it a charge that took it over the limit or a DD? It the latter make sure she gets a copy of the DD's and Standing Orders on the account which you will be able to have a look through to begin with.


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    Default Re: 'Claire' V Natwest

    Hey Thailand....... welcome on board with nasty west!!! Good luck with this claim.......... I think you're doing a brilliant job already. Best wishes, hedgey xxx


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    Default Re: 'Claire' V Natwest

    Quote Originally Posted by NATTIE View Post
    thailand with regards to the original post, can i ask if the account is over its limit as we speak? are the benefits the only thing going into the account? What has been the cause of it? was it a charge that took it over the limit or a DD? It the latter make sure she gets a copy of the DD's and Standing Orders on the account which you will be able to have a look through to begin with.
    You know Nat, I called her today because I simply didn't ask enough questions and Lula's appropriationicon post was enough to make me realise I debating it wasn't enough and I should get the answers.

    I don't know the answers to these questions either I will call again tomorrow and ask. Thanks for the support.( I was just going to wait for statements and see)

    Nat, I probably should know better - but why does it matter if it was a charge or a DD that took her over? I can instantly see the difference but I am unsure of its worth.

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    Default Re: 'Claire' V Natwest

    Quote Originally Posted by hedgey06 View Post
    Hey Thailand....... welcome on board with nasty west!!! Good luck with this claim.......... I think you're doing a brilliant job already. Best wishes, hedgey xxx

    Awwwww, thanks Anything to add a nail into the Banks coffins.


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    at the moment just background info to be honest, it is getting a picture of things which can help. I think once the SARicon is fulfilled then the picture will be clearer and i can help more if there are any questions.


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    Default Re: 'Claire' V Natwest

    I'll post it up when its recieved - cheers Nat.


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    Default Re: 'Claire' V Natwest

    Thai, sometimes it takes someone looking it from the outside to see things, ever heard the phrase "cant see the wood for the trees" well your are inside the wood ;-), thats what is so great about this site and the people on it.

    oh and i have to ask, where on earth is Tangerine country?

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    Default Re: 'Claire' V Natwest

    I know exactly what you mean Lula, and of course I agree about this site .

    Blackpool. Local footy clubs nickname is the 'Tangerine Army'


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    Default Re: 'Claire' V Natwest

    thats what I thought LOL, didnt we have a chat once about my family history?

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    Default Re: 'Claire' V Natwest

    Arghhh, I'd have to rely on your memory rather than mine! I did go in the chatroom a fair few times, but real time multi postings left me baffled as to what was being said. I've a feeling we did - but can't quite recall. Note to self *knock the russian fluids on the head* :o LOL x


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    Default Re: 'Claire' V Natwest

    Hi peeps,

    Well an update rather sooner than I'd thought. I am completely amazed. I haven't really had a good read around the Natwesticon forums (I will!) so I don't know if this is standard, but Natwest has complied with the SARicon in around 7 working days (still pinching myself).

    I really don't know where to start with the plethora of questions that have been popping in my head over the last couple of hours, whilst highlighting like crazy, but if anybody can help me with a few, I'd sure be grateful. The info and plausible outcomes on all levels is spinning round my head!

    Right, I'll probably have to subtract some because these charges are all over the shop, and change frequently and are not that clear to me, some may be for service and others are bewildering but, I think this is going to be a potential fast tracker and I've never done that ( having seen these fees etc, I can imagine Nasty West loathers are used too it?)

    The quick calculation comes out at £5283.78 (includes part month charge increases, I assume). I know for sure looking at Natties charges post it is going to over 5K.

    The first thing that is concerning me is that the statements recieved run from 9th Feb 2001 to 29th December 2006. Why have they gone back too far, and stopped to early - is this tactics? Towards the end of these statements 'Claire' was running up hundreds every month - the figure would surely have been close to 6K if they had provided up until my SARicon request.

    Thanks for any help with this guys.


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    Default Re: 'Claire' V Natwest

    Credit management services?? Did the account go there? Also recheck those figures, remember advantage gold cannot be claimed, hint £37, £29, £40.


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    Default Re: 'Claire' V Natwest

    Haven't seen Credit management services Nat, I don't think (god bless you for being online!)

    I've seen loads of £37,£29 and £40 and loads of £9's amongst loads of other randoms. How do I find out from the statements if its adv Gold? it just says current account at the top.

    I'm baffled!


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    100% it is. There is two threads on the Natwesticon sticky's by my good self that explains them, they may one or two that may not necesarily tie in, post on here and i will answer definitively. But £37, £29, £40 and £9 tell me that i am correct but among the first three of those, there is unarranged borrowing and claimable.


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    Default Re: 'Claire' V Natwest

    If I've understood that correctly, there's a fair bit to knock off.

    Thanks for the help Nat, I'm going to get some serious reading done, and get a better understanding of how Natwesticon operates, and then post further.

    Just had anther quick skim through, and all of the above numbers appear at some point, including £14 and £20 Unauth borrowing.

    Thanks again.


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    Default Re: 'Claire' V Natwest

    Righty ho! I've got my head round all these charges.

    Its going to be over 5K.

    Natwesticon only provided 5 years 11 months despite asking for her entire banking history. I don't yet know how long she has banked with Natwest, but there is a running balance, so it does go back further.

    I still don't understand why they have only sent up until December 06. If Claire hasn't got those 4 months to hand, I'll see if she's up for giving Joyce Tudor a call. I'm considering a letter to the IC for non-complaince, but will wait for 40 days to be up and phone callsicon etc. The Natwest fun begins.

    There is only one charge I'm puzzled with now, £22.50 for 'copy statement fee' in Feb '03 - WTF?!

    If I can't sort this out easily (re phone callsicon) I'll seriously look into the power of attorneyicon thing.


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    Default Re: 'Claire' V Natwest

    Well, I'm a happy chappie this evening, I feel mightily relieved.

    I've spoke to Claire today and managed to find out something that I should have known from the start that relieves me of all the potential problems I was worrying about. I was worried about Appropriaton and what the banks reaction would be (freebirds getting called into the bank was on my mind and having just lost my licence and the distance etc). Also needing signatures re non-compliance, and phone callsicon etc....

    I could go on all night about my worrying but its all vanished, because it turns out the reason why Natwesticon only provided statements to Dec 06 is because the account was closed then (even though I don't see a closing balance?) She is now with RBSicon and in no cycle of charges.

    So, I'll put in prelim in the next couple of days - the statements do go back beyond 6 yearsicon - just - but I think I've read they'll either pay them or they won't.

    Has anyone any opinion on the £22.50 copy statement fee before I charge on?

    Cheers,

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    Yes, it was £2.50 per sheet minimum charge £5 at one point which changed about a year or two ago to £5 per request


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    Default Re: 'Claire' V Natwest

    Cheers Nat.

    Prelim ready to off tomorrow, £4874 as ADV gold and I missed bank refung took it under. Claiming 23/02/2001 - 06/11/2006.

    My BP wasn't doing to well when I noticed they had taken £538 in April 05, and similar around those months.

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