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    Hi everyone, have been in the Banks forum and decided I'd run up the latest on another complaint - with Sky.

    I'd been with Virgin.net for years, broadband was good and only ever went down once, for about an hour. Support was excellent.

    We HAVE TO have sky at home - it's a new estate but no terrestrial tv signal is here, neither are any other cable co's. I've always mentioned the fact that I think the charges are ridiculous whenever I've had a problem with the Sky signal, but the only other choice was to have nothing!

    Sky advertised their new b/band package, I signed up and waited until it was ready. I ordered at the back end (I think) of Nov '06 and wish I hadn't.

    Without notice, Sky took the service rather quickly from Virgin.net. early December - discovered only after speaking to virgin then ringing sky, being promised my wireless modem shortly.

    After a week of phonecalls, more waiting, I wrote to them and here are details (this will be good for me to record before my dog eats my papwork or something!):

    6/12 - a 'sarcastic' letter sent to sky
    15/12 - modem finally received after many more calls
    22/12 - connected, again more calls

    Jan - March more calls, keeps going down

    They claimed the letter had been received and actioned - but decided not to acknowledge it.

    The service goes down every week, every single time I ring I have to go over the story because "there's no trace of your order/your account" it's only when I spend an hour on the phone demanding a manager and a connection that I'm told "it doesn't matter if we can't trace your order, I'll sort it out" blah blah.

    The last calls were 30/3 and 31/3 where I was first told to check microfilters (I do that anyways as a matter of course) then the next day told it was an exchange fault.

    So far, in Jan, we were credited £16 - what they 'estimated' my calls were.

    Thankfully I'm moving house and will NEVER have the service again, but what about the hundreds of calls, my valuable time, my work (I don't use the b/band to run a business, but I use it so I can send/receive emails etc) and what about the Ebay items that were on auctionicon at the time they 'swiped' my connection from Virgin.net?

    How the heck do I put this in a letter that doesn't sound as patronising as the last! ?

    I wonder if someone else could guide me here, have you been in a similar situation?

    Now, I'm off to add up telephone callsicon. Pretentious isn't it? I feel ridiculous for doing it but it's the only way I'll have some sort of log of the whole thing.

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    Sky Broadband:
    Requested 5/11/06
    Letter 6/12/06
    Equipment received 20/12/06
    Connected 22/12/06
    Ongoing problems = 4.5 hours of calls
    Moved house 30/04/07
    Not connected = 1.5 hours of calls
    Complained 16/05/07
    New Equipment Received 21/05/07
    Connected 25/05/07
    No problems with connection, await refund of calls / time ...

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    Default Re: Sky Broadband - Put Me off For Life

    Anyone ?

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    Sky Broadband:
    Requested 5/11/06
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    Equipment received 20/12/06
    Connected 22/12/06
    Ongoing problems = 4.5 hours of calls
    Moved house 30/04/07
    Not connected = 1.5 hours of calls
    Complained 16/05/07
    New Equipment Received 21/05/07
    Connected 25/05/07
    No problems with connection, await refund of calls / time ...

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    Hello, I wonder if anybody has any word about this or can guide me?

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    Sky Broadband:
    Requested 5/11/06
    Letter 6/12/06
    Equipment received 20/12/06
    Connected 22/12/06
    Ongoing problems = 4.5 hours of calls
    Moved house 30/04/07
    Not connected = 1.5 hours of calls
    Complained 16/05/07
    New Equipment Received 21/05/07
    Connected 25/05/07
    No problems with connection, await refund of calls / time ...

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    Default Re: Sky Broadband - Put Me off For Life

    Hi Nuddy

    What Exactly is it that you are needing help with?


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    Default Re: Sky Broadband - Put Me off For Life

    Hi

    I must have ranted on so much that I lost direction! Sorry.

    I'm just wondering how i actually complain properly and if anyone else has had similar -

    I'm moving house soon and would'nt mind the speed of the b/band again but am concerned about the problms I've had, if anyone else has good news then perhaps you can let me know?

    thanks all

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    Sky Broadband:
    Requested 5/11/06
    Letter 6/12/06
    Equipment received 20/12/06
    Connected 22/12/06
    Ongoing problems = 4.5 hours of calls
    Moved house 30/04/07
    Not connected = 1.5 hours of calls
    Complained 16/05/07
    New Equipment Received 21/05/07
    Connected 25/05/07
    No problems with connection, await refund of calls / time ...

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    Default Re: Sky Broadband - Put Me off For Life

    Write them a polite letter breaking down each of your problems.
    What do you want them to do to rectify your problems
    Are you out of the contract tern with them yet?
    If so maybe suggest a discount or refund of charges if you stay with them.

    I have Sky Broadband Mid (or the middle package) and 'touch wood' I have no probs with it. This costs a fiver a month and i download a lot.
    It runs at 3mbs which is max fo my line as well. Initially it sometimes dropped the speed, but i found this to be my 'homemade' extension and once it went wireless from the aster socket its been fine.
    Supanet has bad speeds i used to get 500k speed max on a 1Mbs package.


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    Default Re: Sky Broadband - Put Me off For Life

    i have sky bb and have had nothing but problems and big bills from their help line.

    i am now finding out i have rubbish latency and this effects my gaming (the main reason i have bb) i am in contract, and technically they are providing the service, just not one i am happy with.

    anything i can do ??


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    I recently signed up for the Sky package, see surf speak, at £26 per month. What a disaster it's been! The internet service worked but no email and after over 4 hours, yes I said 4 hours, of calls to them they were still none the wiser as to why it didn't work. The best explanation they could offer was that my surname has an apostrophe in it, but my email address hasn't!?!? I think the calls have cost me nearly £30. My wife and I both rely on email for our work. The service also disconnects on a regular basis. I've lost patience with them and decided to go back to virgin media. I won't speak to them over the phone anymore and have disconnected their service, router back in box and ready to return. Instead I sent a scathing letter of complaint and have informed them that as they cannot provide the service they promised and I pay for they are in breach of contract (I believe you sign for a year).
    I don't think I've ever come across such poorly trained staff ever.
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    Default Re: Sky Broadband - Put Me off For Life

    Well I decided to get sky talk.....£5 / month all calls free...............Ha

    in five months i got charged for this service (1) £3.80 (2)£65 (3) £48 (4) £38 (5) £10

    not realising what was going on I wonderd why the dd's were failing it was only when they cut me off that I FULLY checked what was going on.

    today I got a letter from wescot chasing £193, this by the way is after a complaint and an SARicon to find out what had happened.

    what a bunch of *******

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    Default Re: Sky Broadband - Put Me off For Life

    What a messy company they are! I am not in work this week but will be sending off a letter too, informing them that their service is appalling and I am going to demand money back for calls made and an apology for being so flamin' useless!! I think acknowledging letters really is just plain rude and shows how they really were too disorganised to roll out broadband when they did.


    I recommend to everyone that once you have failed to get a suitable outcome, you complain to the OFT.

    Please let me know how you get on.

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    Requested 5/11/06
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    Equipment received 20/12/06
    Connected 22/12/06
    Ongoing problems = 4.5 hours of calls
    Moved house 30/04/07
    Not connected = 1.5 hours of calls
    Complained 16/05/07
    New Equipment Received 21/05/07
    Connected 25/05/07
    No problems with connection, await refund of calls / time ...

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    Default Re: Sky Broadband - Put Me off For Life

    To add to the obvious c**p this company is giving me, I moved house and was told the tv and broadband would be transferred over without problem - no, I didn't believe that either!

    Two weeks on and three LONG converstions later, I find that the original order didn't come across (the sky tv is being received, no b/band) - this is basically because they couldn't ever find the original order in the first place, hence complaint after complaint from December.

    I spoke to a team leader for a half hour who told me the only way to get b/band is to re-order and pay then speak to cust. services who "might" refund me - then what would I be paying for, I already have the equipment! "this could take up to a month to get connected" as it's a new order. 6 weeks without it, righto.

    On 9th I emailed giving them 7 days to sort it out or I'd resubmit a second complaint to the OFT. Useless sh***!

    To make things worse, I actually did ring them to reorder it, but instead of getting through to sales etc I had to 'register' my interesticon using an automated service. Pah! Doubt I'll ever hear from them again.

    Virgin Media here I come, virgin.net's broadband was fantastic when I had it so I'm going back...

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    Sky Broadband:
    Requested 5/11/06
    Letter 6/12/06
    Equipment received 20/12/06
    Connected 22/12/06
    Ongoing problems = 4.5 hours of calls
    Moved house 30/04/07
    Not connected = 1.5 hours of calls
    Complained 16/05/07
    New Equipment Received 21/05/07
    Connected 25/05/07
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    Default Re: Sky Broadband - Put Me off For Life

    I have had my issues with Sky previoulsy. Although now I am a very happy customer, it took some work to get here though..

    As I have a consumeractiongroup email addy.. I emailed the MD directly. Two emails - my consumeractiongroup addy & my sky standard one. You can read more about that here:

    Its amazing what an email address can do.. - SkyUser - The unofficial support forum for everything Sky!

    Customer relations dealt with my issue VERY quickly and all probs are now resolved.
    Connections issues are tricky, mainly because every customer has different wiring within there own home and this accounts for 95% of most connection issues. And unfortunately Sky are unable to directly help with that one, this is down to you.

    To cut a long story short, although Sky broadband is brilliant now, the Customer Service/Tech Support is abmismal.. period.

    My advice to anyone having issues which they strongly believe is down to Sky's incompetence. (for connections issues - check your internal wiring etc - Skyuser.co.uk for this advice! before you hassle sky) then call:

    Sky Customer Relations direct on 01506484518.
    PM me for a contact name if you wish.

    Good luck!


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    Default Re: Sky Broadband - Put Me off For Life

    hiya, I had similar problems with talk talk, I complained to ofcom about them and it was passed to their high level complaints team. Problems with your internet service | Ofcom to complain. They waved their £70 cessation fees, wont go into it all but I actually got them on the phone admitting it was a penalty charge for cancelling. Also had bill of £157 quashed as I was calling thie 0870 number. They do sit up and take notice when ofcom contacts them with the complaint.

    PS I went to sky and so far I have had no problems, also do a lot of online gaming and it's a lot lot better than my previous isp.


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    Excellent thanks guys, I know their b/band is good but if I can't get them to sort it out in the first place then I'm stuck really aren't I !?

    Bankfodder I've pm'd you for a contact name, many thanks.

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    Connected 22/12/06
    Ongoing problems = 4.5 hours of calls
    Moved house 30/04/07
    Not connected = 1.5 hours of calls
    Complained 16/05/07
    New Equipment Received 21/05/07
    Connected 25/05/07
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    Sorry Broadbandfodder - I've been in the bank forum too long!

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    Connected 22/12/06
    Ongoing problems = 4.5 hours of calls
    Moved house 30/04/07
    Not connected = 1.5 hours of calls
    Complained 16/05/07
    New Equipment Received 21/05/07
    Connected 25/05/07
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    Default Re: Sky Broadband - Put Me off For Life

    Another Sky victim here!
    I connected back in August 2006 and after 36 hours I had enough and cancelled. The setting up was simple but first there was no internet access, then finally when it connected at a very slow speed I could not access the Sky page to register.
    It has taken from August 27th 2006 to May 11th 2007 to get Sky to remove the Tag from my BT line. They ignored all my letters, e-mails and phone callsicon. It was only after the intevention of Otelo that they finally did something. I got my first letter from them a few weeks ago and to my shock received not one but two phone callsicon.
    The moral of this story; It 's hell when you are connected to Sky BB but wait till you try to escape!!!



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    Default Re: Sky Broadband - Put Me off For Life

    Ha! What a bloomin' nightmare hey?
    Thing is, what with Virgin hoovering up the rest of the competition, they're the only option - but there are so many great companies out there just being forgotten about because everyone wants so called bundles.

    Are bundles really better value when you look at the sheer amount of time we spend sorting out a bloomin' connection with the bigger fish.

    I had some luck yesterday, though its not going to get me connected any sooner but I actually spoke to someone and believe that it's going to be sorted.

    Mind, even though I've got the equipment already I'm having to wait for new equipment (!) so here we go again!

    I always praise when needed - Sky b/band is terrific when it works and you can get the service !

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    Connected 22/12/06
    Ongoing problems = 4.5 hours of calls
    Moved house 30/04/07
    Not connected = 1.5 hours of calls
    Complained 16/05/07
    New Equipment Received 21/05/07
    Connected 25/05/07
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    Default Re: Sky Broadband - Put Me off For Life

    I am currently on sky and the only problem i have is that the router keeps cutting out. i work with pc's and what not all the time so i know my stuff but every two days it keeps cutting out and i have to reboot it.

    i tried to get the router settings from sky but they do not give them out so i had to hack into the router myself and get my username and password - which BTW is about 400 digits long then "@sky.com"...

    tried another router non - netgear and everything works fine but sky wont entertain any calls unless i have the netgear router plugged in and they just dont want to give me a new one. everytime its just yes we know there is a problem and we are dealing with it. any advice on how to get the router changed without having to buy a new one?


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    Default Re: Sky Broadband - Put Me off For Life

    Try the Sale of Goods Act, Maximus...

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    Default Re: Sky Broadband - Put Me off For Life

    maximuS - yep, I had that problem

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    Sky Broadband:
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    Letter 6/12/06
    Equipment received 20/12/06
    Connected 22/12/06
    Ongoing problems = 4.5 hours of calls
    Moved house 30/04/07
    Not connected = 1.5 hours of calls
    Complained 16/05/07
    New Equipment Received 21/05/07
    Connected 25/05/07
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