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    Default Us v Abbey - Defence received

    Only just found this site and hoping it'll help. We're claiming just over £2000 from Abbeyicon for the period Jan 01 - Jul 02. We've received a notice of issue from the court, followed by a letter from Abbey including an offer for half of our claim plus a copy of the defence that they say they have filed with the Court. The court deadline for filing the defence is Monday 5 March. Can anyone help with our next action. Should we respond to the offer from Abbey? Should we tell the court about the offer? Should we check with the court that the defence has been filed? We've no intention of accepting the offer from Abbey!
    Having posted this I see a number of other threads that have been posted either today or yesterday where people are in the same position... so I'll be following those threads

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    Default Re: Us v Abbey - Defence received

    I have also received a defence from Abbeyicon. I am at a bit of a loss as to what to do now...
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    Default Re: Us v Abbey - Defence received

    You need to have a look at this

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...ng-offers.html

    When you have done that, just to get things straigh, have a look at this

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...k-charges.html


    Then finally, have a look around the forum and read lots of threads, you will find lots of people have been exactly where you are, and have won, which leads me onto this

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...oot-successes/

    which is always good to look at for a bit of a confidence boost.

    Best of luck


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    Default Re: Us v Abbey - Defence received

    I am sorry I am a bit ignorant on legal form and issues.

    What I have received is a form called n9cpc on which appears the name of the Abbeyicon's solicitor and it has a box ticked which reads "I intend to defende all o this claim".

    Am I right to think that this is just the acknowledgment by Abbey legal department of the claim I have filed ???? And that the 28 days time frame for a successfull or not , as the case maybe, claim starts ticking from the date on that n9cpc ?

    Nino


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    Default Re: Us v Abbey - Defence received

    Nino, best start your own thread and outline what you have done so far, and explain what stage you are at.

    Off the top of my head I have no idea what a form n9cpc, and I doubt if many others would.


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    Default Re: Us v Abbey - Defence received

    I have called Money Claim Online and received clarifications.
    This form is the acknowledgement by the defendant (Abbeyicon) of the claim I had filed .
    The clock started thicking the daty the claim was served to them (14th Fbr) and they have till the 14th Mar to come up with a defence (a justification for not paying) or lose the claim.

    MOL have advised me to send them and Abbey a schedule o the charges that I am claiming back (good thing I remember! By filing on line there was no way I could have attached the schedule of fees so be warned all those who file on line ! ).

    Nino


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    Default Re: Us v Abbey - Defence received

    can i just clear this up nino... ihave aknowledgement 2day of my claim by Abbeyicon... i filed online and all i have stated for my claim is what i am claiming... does that mean i have to send a full break down of charges ( which i ahve on disc) to the courts of my own back or will they ask for it?? also abbey have had this off me twice so is it worth sending it to them again???


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    Default Re: Us v Abbey - Defence received

    adam,
    i found through this site an exel spreadsheet where i have put the fees applied by Abbeyicon, their dates and the interesticon calculated from those dates. This gives back a total (which is running and changing till the settlement date) that should be claimed in addition to the illegal charges applied by Abbey.
    At least this is my understanding. This is the spreadsheet that I have today sent MOL with copy Abbey.

    I wont be available to reply re this subject for a week as I am goin away.

    Nino


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    Default Re: Us v Abbey - Defence received

    thx.. i have all the charges done when i sent in my original letter to the bank.... Breakdownicon of all charges, with dates and intrest apllied... over 230 charges... just wondered what made u send them to the courts... would they not ask u to send a more detail account of ur claim or is that upto u to do... or is that when the aqicon comes in.. should hopefully recieve that soon as the Abbeyicon have less then 24 days...


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    Default Re: Us v Abbey - Defence received

    Yesterday we received another copy of the Abbeyicon defence slightly different from first copy in that they have removed the following clause
    "10. The defendant denies that the claimant is entitled to claim for any charges alleged to have been incurred prior to 29 January 2001 by virtued of section 5 of the limitation acticon 1980"
    As we hadn't claimed for any charges prior to this date this clause was irrelevant anyway. The covering letter that came with the copy of the defence again offered to settle at 50% of the claim, this figure was less than the original letter because abbey appear not to have included the court charges. I've sent a reply to Abbey declining both offers and referring them to my original letter asking for repayment of all charges in full. Should I let the court know of the offer and my refusal?
    Also, my claim has not included any amount for interesticon (before finding this site I wasn't aware I could have claimed). Is it now too late to do anything about this?


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    Default Re: Us v Abbey - Defence received

    Should I let the court know of the offer and my refusal?
    No need

    Also, my claim has not included any amount for interesticon (before finding this site I wasn't aware I could have claimed). Is it now too late to do anything about this?
    Only if you amend your claimicon (£35 fee -unreclaimable)


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    Default Re: Us v Abbey - Defence received

    For whatever reason Abbeyicon are not relying on the limitations act to remove charges odler than six years, or at leasth they did the same on my claim.

    there is an alternative defence called 'doctrine of laches' but it would be unusual imho to argue on one when there is the potential to use the liitatiosn act as well.

    i reckon they realise that they are stuffed when it comes to limitatins act/laches and have stopped trying to use it on the offchance they get a judgemwent awarded against them on this issue.

    And i agree with Mr Brown on the amendmenticon issue too

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    Default Re: Us v Abbey - Defence received

    Thanks Michael, will amending claim delay procedures? or if and when I win my claim can I then start another action to reclaim interesticon?


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    Default Re: Us v Abbey - Defence received

    will amending claim delay procedures?
    Yes
    or if and when I win my claim can I then start another action to reclaim interesticon?
    No,


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    Default Re: Us v Abbey - Defence received

    The deadline for submission of defence was 5.3.07. Abbeyicon have submitted their defence when can I expect the aqicon from the court?


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    Default Re: Us v Abbey - Defence received

    hi resolver, i got my aqicon about a week and a half after the defence be patient at it stage, the court will tell you the deadline for submission of info



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