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    Question Jess v A+L ***WON***

    I am just startin my claim against A+L after they charged me £115 this week, as i am on benefits i now dont have enough to live on.

    My thought is the law says the social give me just the right amount to live on BUT we have to now have it paid into our banks... The banks take horrendous charges and leaves me without enough to feed my kids.... How come no one official is doing anything about it?


    Ok i dont need the S.A.R - (Subject access requesticon) as i managed to download all my statements off there site. I have the prelim letter ready but i wanted to ask if i just put a total in the letter and send it like that or do i need to send a Breakdownicon at this point? Sorry if its already been covered somewhere.

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    Hi jess and welcome, have a read of this http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...hlight=benefit

    There is a spreadsheet template in the library for completing your schedule to send to the bank with your letters.

    Have a good read of the FAQs and A&L threads too.

    Good luck


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    HI Jess
    I am sure if you approached your bank they would give you your benefits back, they are not allowed to take them to cover their charges, and leave you with nothing to live on..............

    With your first letter you need to attach a Breakdownicon/summary of charges incurred.
    Welcome, some great people on this site, all willing to help you.


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    Default Re: Jess v A+L

    Thanks for all the help...Prelim and Schedule of Charges here to send today.

    Im going to look into the bank and benefits situations janquinny, thanks for the advice... need to read the inffo several times because i get easily confused.


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    Ok its posted and off..... i feel strangely apprehensive but fingers crossed

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    Default Re: Jess v A+L

    Best of luck -from some of the posts today A&L lok like of the easier ones- especially if you read some of the others eg Lloydsicon tsb threads


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    Ok can someone tell advise me, I sent the prelim off with soc and the 2 weeks is up on frid. I haven't heard a word from them, no bog off or acknowledgement... is this the new norm? or are they just ignoring me Im going to prepare the lbaicon 2morro and send it off frid.

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    Default Re: Jess v A+L

    Stick to the timetable, Jess68, it doesn't matter what they do or don't do.

    Just out of interesticon, did you not try phoning them when it first happened to explain that you were on benefits?


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    Default Re: Jess v A+L

    It goes into the account as a dss and a disability benefit payment, they cant say they dont know lol.

    Random thought..... If they settle and then dont close my account and i incur more charges.... just how often can you make these claims.... im notoriously bad at payin on right days, partly health issues and partly cos im hopeless

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    They have publically stated they will close accounts of claimants but whether they have cahnged this now they have had their wrists slapped, i don't know. i have read on the forum somewhere of someone paying their overdrafticon off in preparation for the account being closed, and when it wasn't they ran it back up again, only to be told the account was to be closed after all and the overdraft cancelled - so be careful.

    They took ages to close mine, just checked now and it has been closed but I still have £1.32 in my savings account, think I'll leave it there as it's gaining interest, it was only £1 two years ago.


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    Default Re: Jess v A+L

    The thing about these charges is that they're made automatically and a computer can't make a judgement call on what is fair or not unless it has been programmed to, (and I doubt the banks bother to do this). Water under the bridge tho, I was just wonderin.

    As for future charges - any that you get before you actually make out your court claim can be added to this set of claims. Once it goes to court it's possible to add other ones but you would be charged for this, so it would be better to start over again with a new claim under those circumstances.

    Unless and until someone tells us we can't make these claims you are free to take them to court as many times as you like.


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    Default Re: Jess v A+L

    Well didn't hear a word from them but i sent prelim off yesterday, i was really really hoping to have cash from them by next week as im off on holidayicon on weds and as yet have no spending money..... so im praying they are going to give me something before i go away altho i am not holding my breath.

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    I very much doubt you'll get anything before you start court proceedings, Jess68.

    Only once or twice have I seen cases on here where they have given the money back freely - but these really are few n far between. You're best preparing for the long haul, (then if they did cave it would be a nice surprise, but you're right in not holding your breath!).


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    Yeh im getting into a comfy chair for the long haul While im waiting for them im going to read up on the proceecure for catalogues and such... I've started now so might as well go the whole way

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    Default Re: Jess v A+L

    Ok received standard bog off this morning, my next stage is mcol/court?? can i clarify a couple of points...

    1. Do i now need to wait for 14 days or can i proceed now?
    2. How much is it likely to cost me and do i have to pay as i'm n benefits?

    Thanks so much for help, i am sorry if it seems i'm reviewing same points over and over but i get so confused and forgetful which is what worried me about proceeding, although saying that, the fact that i have a total record here of what i have done and when is such an amazing help.

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    Default Re: Jess v A+L

    Quote Originally Posted by Jess68 View Post
    Ok received standard bog off this morning, my next stage is mcol/court?? can i clarify a couple of points...

    1. Do i now need to wait for 14 days or can i proceed now?
    2. How much is it likely to cost me and do i have to pay as i'm n benefits?

    Thanks so much for help, i am sorry if it seems i'm reviewing same points over and over but i get so confused and forgetful which is what worried me about proceeding, although saying that, the fact that i have a total record here of what i have done and when is such an amazing help.

    Hi, Jess.

    Opinion is divided, but it would probably be better to wait the 14 days, as it is thought this proves to a judge how reasonable you have been about the whole thing if it ever has to go into court. (Don't worry! You won't have to, it's just an 'in case' sort of thing.)

    As you are on benefits, you shouldn't have to pay any fees. Don't know what the relevant forms are but someone will, I'm sure.


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    Default Re: Jess v A+L

    kk thanks youngandfree i will wait til after my hols and see if i hear anything else

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    Default Re: Jess v A+L

    grrrr i am so mad, i left £21 in my account to pay a DD which was £19... i forgot about a cheque for £2.50 i had outstanding and they bounced the cheque and the DD and charged me, i am now overdrawn by £58 and as i am going away on tues this had made a big dent in the little spending money i had. Any other time they would have paid the DD anc charged me £25 for paying it, instead they bounce it and charge me £34, i cant help feeling there is pettiness creeping in as i am making a claim against them!

    I cant wait for the next 9 days to go so i can start court proceedings, they are also charging me £50 in charges while i am away

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    Rotten "£$%^&*s!


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    Default Re: Jess v A+L

    Ok back off my hols and nothing from the bank, guess they think i have given up.... there gonna get a shock

    Ok had a quick browse through but can someone tell me for definate what i have to do next? I know its small claims court but beyond that i am not sure! Help pls !!!

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