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    Default Garden v Barclays - Anyone Won Yet??

    Hi there

    Has anyone actually won against Barclaysicon Bank???

    Today Barclays filed a defence (on the last day) against my claim for bank charges & Im now wondering what the next step is??

    I have read a little about this 'Court Bundle' & to be honest it scares the **** out of me! Sounds complicated.

    Can anyone put me out of my misery & point me in the right direction.

    Also, how much longer does this go on for? I started this claim back in Nov.

    Any replies/ advice would be greatly appreciated.

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      Default Re: Garden v Barclays - Anyone Won Yet??

      The question you should be asking is has anyone lost yet, the answer is no, the next step is wait for the aqicon, the court bundle is just documents that need submitting into court and to the other side before the hearing, don't worry it wont go to a hearing, spend some time reading the FAQs.
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      Default Re: Garden v Barclays - Anyone Won Yet??

      18/11/2006 Recieved Statements from Barclays.
      20/11/2006 Sent Prelim for return of £575.
      27/11/2006 Received offer of £290.
      4/12/2006 Sent LBA.
      8/1/2007 Filed Small Claim at court.
      12/02/2007 Full settlemant from Barclay's.
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      Default Re: Garden v Barclays - Anyone Won Yet??

      Quote Originally Posted by paulwlton View Post
      The question you should be asking is has anyone lost yet, the answer is no, the next step is wait for the aqicon, the court bundle is just documents that need submitting into court and to the other side before the hearing, don't worry it wont go to a hearing, spend some time reading the FAQs.
      Paul.
      Ditto,

      Its just a process which we all have to go through, and which the courts are finally getting tierd of.

      If you want have a read of my thread I was settled on 21st Nov last year and had a court date 15th Dec last year. But some cases get settled nearer the court date so don't worry if it goes right to the wire. You will get settled.

      Heres the link: http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...s-1st-one.html

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      Default Re: Garden v Barclays - Anyone Won Yet??

      Phew!!! Thanks to everyone that has replied to my thread (this site is not the easiest to navigate or it could just be my bad navigation?! )

      Anyway, all replies greatly appreciated. I will indeed have a butchers at your cases & hopefully learn by them.

      So, I patiently await my aqicon? Will do some homework on the 'Court Bundle' and see what happens next.

      Does anyone know where I look for info on the 'court bundle', sounds like I need to get cracking on this?!
      Any tips again, would be a great help.

      I will keep you all posted, hopefully it wont be much longer now.

      Many Thanks All


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      Default Re: Garden v Barclays - Anyone Won Yet??

      Quote Originally Posted by Garden32 View Post
      Hi there

      Has anyone actually won against Barclaysicon Bank???

      Today Barclays filed a defence (on the last day) against my claim for bank charges & Im now wondering what the next step is??

      I have read a little about this 'Court Bundle' & to be honest it scares the **** out of me! Sounds complicated.

      Can anyone put me out of my misery & point me in the right direction.

      Also, how much longer does this go on for? I started this claim back in Nov.

      Any replies/ advice would be greatly appreciated.

      Garden
      I won! Only 2 weeks ago as well! See my thread michelle73 vs Barclays

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      If you think I have been any help at all, click my scales, go on.... You know you want to!
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      Default Re: Garden v Barclays - Anyone Won Yet??

      Hi Michelle

      Thanks alot for your reply! Everyone is so helpful on here.

      Wow! Congratulations on your Win. Im soo excited.

      Today, I have printed off the basic court bundle. I now need to organise my statements & stuff & get it all photocopied. (Discreetly) Am I right?
      Need to do some more reading to make sure Im doing the right thing!

      Thanks


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      Default Re: Garden v Barclays - Anyone Won Yet??

      Make sure in your bundle you only include the statements that actually show a charge!! I didn't and it took me ages to photocopy it (also discreetly). You are doing things exactly right. To save yourself a few quid, make sure when the bundles are ready, you take the copy that needs to go to churchill place into your local Barclaysicon and ask them to send it in their internal mail system. They won't be happy (welcome to our world) and they will make a song and dance out it, asking you for a mail van number etc (like I would know that?). Don't take no for an answer, they cannot refuse to do this. Also get a receipt for it. You will find that they are very very very reluctant to put their name to it and will more than likely disappear to have a word with their gaffer!!! The minimum they can give you is a photocopy of the address label attached to the bundle. They should date stamp it and sign. Jobs a good un!!

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      Default Re: Garden v Barclays - Anyone Won Yet??

      Thanks for the reply Michelle. Yes you have been very helpful, I hope I can ask you for help again??

      Sorry for sounding a bit of a durr brain, but what do you mean 'click on your scales'??

      Right, Im off now to bury my head in this 'Court Bundle' & face these 100mph Winds!

      Wish me luck.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Garden32 View Post
      Thanks for the reply Michelle. Yes you have been very helpful, I hope I can ask you for help again??

      Sorry for sounding a bit of a durr brain, but what do you mean 'click on your scales'??

      Right, Im off now to bury my head in this 'Court Bundle' & face these 100mph Winds!

      Wish me luck.
      Good luck, though you don't need it!! When you look at the left hand side of the screen under someones user name you will see some scales and a warning triangle. If you think that someone has been helpful, when you click on their scales you can award someone reputation points. These are the green blobs under your name. The more green blobs, the better your reputation is. If you hover over the green blobs, there will be a box that comes up and describes you! Think mine is informative. With regard to more help if needed. Of course. ask away!!! if it is easier and you need a quick answer it is usually easier to send someone a private message. This can be done by clicking someones user name and you should get a list of things you can do. Hope this helps

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      Default Re: Garden v Barclays - Anyone Won Yet??

      Hi Guys

      Received my aqicon today & the defence from Barclaysicon.

      Do the Bank send the same defence for most cases? Mine is 8 points long and goes something like this:

      1. The Particulars of claim do not provide details or particulars of the account in question and / or the precise charges alleged to have been unlawful, or the date thereof. To the extent it is alleged that the Claimant incurred bank charges on her account for unauthorised borrowings (whether unpaid fees for returned cheques, "Paid Referral fess" or any other such fees), the defendant puts the Claimant to strict proof of each charge and the date thereof.

      Now Im no legal boff but am I right in saying that they are trying to tell me I havnt put the dates / details on my claim?? I have followed this process step by step & used the letters / spreadsheet in the templates libraryicon... so what the he** are they talking about???

      Then the defence blah's on about charges, I signed a contract, terms & conditions, blah, blah, blah...

      So my question to you is: Do they send this to everyone???? Im just looking for peace of mind.

      Just wanna make sure I get this right, Ive come this far, am NOT letting them win!!!

      Any response would be greatly received.


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      Default Re: Garden v Barclays - Anyone Won Yet??

      I wouldn't lose much sleep over this, looks standard, just one thing, did you include your account number in your POCicon.


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      Default Re: Garden v Barclays - Anyone Won Yet??

      Hey Paul

      Thanks for the reply, yes I have put my account no on all correspondance. Am I cool?

      Few questions I have on the aqicon:

      C. Am I agreeing that the small claims track is the most suitable track for this claim?

      D. Do I have any witnesses?

      Should I put anything in the 'Other Information' box?

      Thankyou soooo much for tips!


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      Quote Originally Posted by Garden32 View Post
      Hey Paul

      Thanks for the reply, yes I have put my account no on all correspondance. Am I cool?

      Few questions I have on the aqicon:

      C. Am I agreeing that the small claims track is the most suitable track for this claim?

      D. Do I have any witnesses?

      Should I put anything in the 'Other Information' box?

      Thankyou soooo much for tips!

      Yes your cool. check out the templates libraryicon theres guidance for filling in the AQ.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Garden32 View Post
      Hey Paul

      Thanks for the reply, yes I have put my account no on all correspondance. Am I cool?

      Few questions I have on the aqicon:

      C. Am I agreeing that the small claims track is the most suitable track for this claim?

      D. Do I have any witnesses?

      Should I put anything in the 'Other Information' box?

      Thankyou soooo much for tips!
      Hello

      Yes to C, small claims most appropriate. Witnesses, no. And any other information should read:

      "I am respectfully requesting that my claim be allocated to the small claims track. This issue is not a complicated one, it is an issue of fact and not of law. The issue is only whether the money levied by the Defendant in respect of it's customers contractual breaches exceed their actual costs incurred. I am happy to pay their actual costs and I am surprised the Defendant did not counterclaim for these, because I would have paid them without arguement. However, the continuing problem is (in common with the hundreds of other cases currently being brought by other bank customers) that the banks refuse to reveal details of their penalty charging regime. As the banks have a fiduciary duty towards customers, they have a duty to deal straightforwardly and in utmost good faith.

      Accordingly, I would respectfully ask that the court in this case, not withstanding allocation to the small claims track, order standard disclosure. I understand that this is in the courts discretion to do so. I believe this would bring a rapid end to this litigation.

      I believe this case should last no more than one hour."

      Just cut and paste this lot in and it will save you typing it all out again!


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      Default Re: Garden v Barclays - Anyone Won Yet??

      That's Brilliant Michelle!

      Really appreciate that. Will cut n paste like you say. Hope I can be as much help as you have been.

      My pal is doing this against HSBCicon & my sis also is after the Royal Bank of Scotlandicon, so hopefully i can pass on these words of wisdom.

      Thanks to your lot!

      And of course this fabulous site!

      Watch this space. :grin:


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      Default Re: Garden v Barclays - Anyone Won Yet??

      Here you go: http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...ompletion.html

      also have a read of this thread it may be something you might want to consider read from start.

      http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...tionaires.html

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      Default Re: Garden v Barclays - Anyone Won Yet??

      I used New Strategy for aqicon and sent it with draft Directions and the Judge ordered the Directions as per draft - hopefully it sppeds up the settlement process

      Peter

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      Quote Originally Posted by Garden32 View Post
      That's Brilliant Michelle!

      Really appreciate that. Will cut n paste like you say. Hope I can be as much help as you have been.

      My pal is doing this against HSBCicon & my sis also is after the Royal Bank of Scotlandicon, so hopefully i can pass on these words of wisdom.

      Thanks to your lot!

      And of course this fabulous site!

      Watch this space. :grin:
      No worries!!

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      GE Capital - *Settled in full* 16/11/06
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      Capital One: - *Settled in full* 02/02/07
      MBNA: - *Settled in full* 30/01/07
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