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    Default Funhat vs Natwest ***WON***

    On the 19th I mailed in to my local branch the DPA request letter, today I received copies of my statements for the duration of around three years I was with the bank during my university days. After totalling everything up my complete total comes to [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][FONT=Calibri]£2166.19.

    Tomorrow I will be sending in the first letter requesting my funds back. I know they are going to try and play hardball at this, but I work within the banking industry so I won't be taking any of it.

    I'm willing to accept a 75% settlement from them, you may think it's daft not to push for the full amount, but I work long hours and finding the time to go to court would be a hassle.

    So here we are, tomorrow is day the start of david vs goliath

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    Default Re: Funhat vs Natwest

    I sent the first lbaicon on friday, they should have it by now. Hoping to get a standard letter soon


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    Default Re: Funhat vs Natwest

    Hooray. I got the run of the mill fob off from the bank manager today.

    In reply:

    Account: xx-xx-xx xxxxxxxx
    Dear Ms Buckley,


    I thank you for your recent reply to my initial letter, although I do have to disagree with the points that you raise.


    Firstly I, along with the OFT, feel your charges are excessive and do not represent the additional work required to administer an account. Your banking operations regarding issuing charges for exceeding an agreed overdrafticon limit, returning a direct debiticon/standing order, or to return a cheque would be an automatic process and your charges of up to £38 do not reflect this but indicate that the charges are there to drive revenue generation rather than the stated purpose of extra ‘administration’.



    The OFT have been in contact with your organisation along side other financial institutions and have reported that your charges do not fall into line with their recommendations of which they recommend a maximum limit of £12. Obviously £38 is over three times this recommendation so I find it perplexing that your organisation can make these statements. Also, the OFT have stated that their recommendations do not apply solely to credit cards as you have incorrectly informed me, but all consumer contracts including bank accounts.


    In light of this I make another request to you to refund £2087.82 in unlawful fee’s that you had debited from my account plus £78.37 in interest that was applied when your charges pushed me further below the threshold.


    I will be generous and allow another 14 days to your organisation to provide me with full settlement. Should this time elapse then I regrettably will have no other option but to pursue my claim through the courts, in which on top of the above figures I would also be claiming court fee’s and also interest on top which currently is calculated at a rate of 8%.


    Furthermore, I shall submit a Consumer Credit Act 1974 complaint to the OFT upon the basis that you have failed to comply with the OFT's direction of 5 April 2006 and are therefore not a 'fit and proper person' to hold a consumer credit licence under the 1974 Act


    I’m sure as a respectable organisation you would rather not this have to proceed legally.
    The heat is on


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    Default Re: Funhat vs Natwest

    Quote Originally Posted by funhat
    On the 19th I mailed in to my local branch the DPA request letter, today I received copies of my statements for the duration of around three years I was with the bank during my university days. After totalling everything up my complete total comes to [font=Verdana][size=2][font=Calibri]£2166.19.

    Tomorrow I will be sending in the first letter requesting my funds back. I know they are going to try and play hardball at this, but I work within the banking industry so I won't be taking any of it.

    I'm willing to accept a 75% settlement from them, you may think it's daft not to push for the full amount, but I work long hours and finding the time to go to court would be a hassle.

    So here we are, tomorrow is day the start of david vs goliath
    you wouldn't have to go to court though, they would probably settle before it got to that stage anyway

    If it went to court, you could charge interesticon at 8%, which would bring the total to very roughly £3500 say. I work out 25% that you would get if you let it get that far to be £875. Now unless you work as a SAP Consultant (sorry, IT jargon) that is a lot of money for a day off, especially if you are taking it sick as a perm...

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    Default Re: Funhat vs Natwest

    If they want to settle before court i'll be fine with that, but i'd rather get as much out of them as possible now and going to court wouldn't phase me


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    Default Re: Funhat vs Natwest

    Letter was signed for at my local branch yesterday, the clock's ticking..


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    Default Re: Funhat vs Natwest

    The letter was signed for on the 22nd of May, obviously we've had a bank holidayicon in the way so should I include that in the 14 days or keep it to working days?

    I've yet to receive a respone from them though. I sent the lbaicon to my local branch manager so should I give her a call to see whats up or just go straight for MoneyClaim?

    Also, to make things awkward I move house on the 30th. Is that going to cause a load of problems?


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    Default Re: Funhat vs Natwest

    They may not reply to the lbaicon. Just go straight to moneyclaim.

    Just use your new address but make sure you put your account number in the particulars of claim.

    Make sure you send a letter to the bank asking them to change your address on their systems and make sure any corespondence goes to this new address.

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    Default Re: Funhat vs Natwest

    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    They may not reply to the lbaicon. Just go straight to moneyclaim.

    Just use your new address but make sure you put your account number in the particulars of claim.

    Make sure you send a letter to the bank asking them to change your address on their systems and make sure any corespondence goes to this new address.
    Cheers i'll get that sorted out. I'm rather annoyed that for all the standard letters they have they didn't even bother to respond.

    Time for court..


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    Default Re: Funhat vs Natwest

    Quote Originally Posted by funhat
    I’m sure as a respectable organisation you would rather not this have to proceed legally.
    Personally I wouldn't have put that, as they probably will take you to court now. I dunno, just a thought just it doesn't read very well I feel... :?

    NatWest:
    6/6/06 - Data Protection Act sent - £10 paid.
    8/6/06 - Data Protection Act & £10 signed for.
    29/6/06 -
    Statements received.
    30/6/06 - Prelim letter £1397.94
    11/7/06 - Prelim letter rejected
    12/7/06 - Sent LBA
    18/7/06 - LBA Rejected
    24/7/06 - Moneyclaim £1779.56
    31/8/06 - AQ Received
    1/9/06 - Sent AQ + £100 (New Total: £1879.56)
    16/9/06 - Received Cobbetts AQ
    19/9/06 - Offer £1000 (Rejected)
    22/9/06 - Settled in FULL £1879.56 (with disclosure)

    Capital One:

    6/6/06 - Data Protection Act sent

    1/9/06 - Settled in FULL £775.37 (Default NOT removed)

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    Default Re: Funhat vs Natwest

    Finally got round to filing my claim through Moneyclaim today, after moving house I thought i'd lost all of my document and it took me a while to find them.

    Lets wait and see


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    Default Re: Funhat vs Natwest

    evenin still learning, please excuse me, do you have to send the letter requesting staements to my branch, or the data protection office in london?


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    Default Re: Funhat vs Natwest

    It shouldn't make any difference really


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    Default Re: Funhat vs Natwest

    thanks , first thing in the morning tis in the post


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    Default Re: Funhat vs Natwest

    After a period of absence and that i'd totally forgot about things until the BBC program last night, I decided to start the ball rolling again. The claim i'd filed was wrong as i'd messed up on the interest, so I cancelled it, so I thought i'd send them a stern letter with a short deadline to bring things back into the limelight:

    Dear Mr Higley,


    I write to you in reference to previous correspondence relating to the unlawful charges applied to my account throughout its duration since August 2004. As you will be aware the BBC ran a documentary on the 12th of December regarding bank charges drawing attention in particular to a former senior executive of your institution that collaborated with two banking experts that agreed upon charges of a maximum of £4.50 for a returned cheque and £2.50 for exceeding an agreed overdrafticon or returning a direct debiticon.


    This is obviously contradicts previous correspondence I have received from your organisation.


    I have calculated that since August 2004 your organisation has debited me with £2166.19 in charges inclusive of interest.


    In light of the recent media coverage on the BBC, I now demand one of the following within the next seven working days. I either expect a breakdown of the actual costs incurred to your organisation as a result of each incident where I triggered a charge on my account, or I expect a full refund of these charges. Should I not receive the latter then I shall commence county courticon action at additional expensive to Natwest Bank PLC including legal fees and interest charged at 8% from the date of the first charge.



    If the matter should go as far as County Court action then I will be in contact with my local newspaper who are keen to run an article on this situation.


    I will not accept a partial offer of settlement. The Money Program featured an interview with the Financial Ombudsmanicon who stated that if banks continue to offer partial settlements then they will investigate. If I receive such offer I will also forward a complaint to the Financial Ombudsman promptly.

    I look forward to your reply within the next seven days.
    Kind regards,


    Funhat
    This was sent recorded delivery to Mr Higley this afternoon, I will follow it up with a telephone callicon on Friday.


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    Default Re: Funhat vs Natwest

    excellent letter, i mean how much does it cost them to mess every body about, surely the would save them selves a lot of dosh by just paying up to those who apply, if they paid out to me i would shut up about this issue, the longer they mess me about the more people i tell ,


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    Default Re: Funhat vs Natwest

    I thought i'd lay things out as to leave no room for uncertainty or a standard fob off letter.


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    Default Re: Funhat vs Natwest

    I like the letter, it will be interesting to see what, if any, reply you get back

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    Default Re: Funhat vs Natwest

    evenin, just a quickie, what stage are you actually at?


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    Default Re: Funhat vs Natwest

    Quote Originally Posted by matt keen View Post
    evenin, just a quickie, what stage are you actually at?
    Post lbaicon, pre Moneyclaim



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