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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
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Hi,

 

Just looking for some advice.

 

Received a letter from the above debt collectors at my parents address. It appears they have been instructed to recover a £300 debt from Nationwide.

 

I though this account was closed a long time ago, but appears not. Contacted Nationwide asking for statements so I can see what its all about.

 

In the process of getting free statements to see whats going on, but was told on phone its made up mostly of charges!

 

Phoned Fredricksons debt collectors to advise them this was in dispute. They were very rude and abrupt when I told them I was not going to give them my new address. I told them to contact Nationwide who gave them the debt to get it. (I gave nationwide my new address on the phone).

 

The lady from the debt collectors said "Its illegal not to provide your details to a debt collection agency" Once again I said get them from Nationwide. I dont want to give them to you as the debt is currently in dispute.

 

She said "I will mark up that you a re refusing you give your correct details. Goodbye" and then she hung up!

 

Is this correct? Its illegal not to give your details to a debt collection agency? Im guessing its just scaremongering tactics.

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Well you've told the legal owner of the debt of your change of address.

 

DCA's are just used to getting their own ways in demanding information and misinforming people of their rights.

 

Send them the no-telephone contact letter as well as a CCA request.

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Well you've told the legal owner of the debt of your change of address.

 

DCA's are just used to getting their own ways in demanding information and misinforming people of their rights.

 

Send them the no-telephone contact letter as well as a CCA request.

 

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

Just back on the phone to Nationwide to advise of the behavior of the debt collection agency. He's not happy about it at all and is now speaking with the liason department. :)

 

There was no way I was giving my address to a debt collection agency I know nothing about and when the debt was in dispute.

 

Just wanted to check whether it was correct when she said "Its illeagl not to give a debt collection agency your address".

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Just wanted to check whether it was correct when she said "Its illeagl not to give a debt collection agency your address".

 

It's more illegal for a debt collection agency to tell you it's illegal !

 

Rest assured, it's total hogwash ! you don't legally have to tell them anything at all :D

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Don't know why they are making such a fuss. All they have to do is sarch

your credit file and get it from there.

 

Ideally you should have sent an sar to NW to get all your info, not just statements, if you wish to reclaim the charges.[see FAQS on the forum first page]. If NW are still the creditor, there is no point in sending a CCA request to the DCA as it only needs to be answered by the owner of the debt.

 

Once you send off your letter to NW asking for your money back can you really claim that you are in dispute with them, and if you write to the DCA

then, should they phone or write to you asking for paymeint, or threatening

you, they commit an offence.

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Hi,

 

I have sent my letter off to Nationwide to claim back my charges, however received a letter from the DCA stating ive got 7 days to pay or its off to court!

 

I phoned them up and explained the account was in dispute and im currently dealing with Nationwide.

 

They said they would mark it in dispute for one week and that I need to send them all letters I receive from Nationwide!

I tild them I was not going to do that as im dealing with Nationwide and nationwide only. If they want any further information then to contact Nationwide.

 

The DCA stated that they are the legal owner of the debt, funny how Nationwide said that they are the owner!

 

The DCA started asking "Are you married?" "Are you a homeowner?" - told him it was none of his buisness!

 

Anyway, the converstaion kept going round in circles, so I told him I had made my position clear and terminated the call.

 

Do I really have to keep the DCA updated and send them all letters? I thought they would have got all this info from Nationwide?

 

If this is not the case, is there a letter I can send them stating its in dispute and I want no contact until its resolved?

 

Where do I stand legally?

 

Thanks in advance.

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If Nationwide claim to be the owners of the debt, deal with them only.

 

Tell the DCA to take a running jump, but do it as rudely, and agressively, as you possibly can. Then send them a bill for your time spent sorting out their mess, at £9.50 an hour. When they don't pay up, find the names of the directors on the Companies House website, and take them to court, etc, etc, etc....... :D

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