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Gazzard41 vs Barclays Bank
Hi everyone new to all this, and have just started so here goes.
Sent S.A.R - (Subject access request) December and recieved letter this morning read as follows:
Dear ######
Data Protection Act
We refer to your letter dated ## December, which was passed to this department for commentdue to your request for certain infomation, relating to bank charges, under the terms of the Data Protection Act ["the Data Protection Act"].
Please be aware that the Bank is not under an obligation to present infomation according to any particular format. Therefore, your request to assemble a schedule of charges is turned aside. You may of course obtain this data from copy statements and these will be supplied to you within the next 10 days without charge on this occasion. As the bank is providing the copy statements on a complimentary basis your payment is returned herewith. We should advise however, that some statement information arising from the period prior to and possibly during 1999 to 2000 is manually stored in the form of microfiche and does not fall within the data subject access provisions of the Data Protection Act.
As regards your mention of "manual intervention", the DPA does not oblige the bank to comment about internal policies and procedures. Furthermore, in the context of managing day to day transactions arising from out of order accounts, the Bank does not hold the information you have requested in a form that would be covered by the DPA. Whilst aggregated information is retained for statistical purposes, this would not constitute "personal data" under the DPA and therforewould not be covered by a s.7 DPA Subject access request. For the avoidance of doubt, the fact that we do not generally record infomation in a way that is caught by the provisions of the DPA, is in no way an admission that there was no such manual intervention.
Yours sincerely
bla bla
Manager, Barclays Data Protection.
Is the above the normal bla or should I be concerned.
This is the standard load of old cobblers they come up with. Stick to the step by step guide and your timetable.
Spotty
Statement request 4th May
Prelim Letter sent 24th May
LBA 7th June
Thanks but no thanks letter sent 22 June
MCOL 22nd June
Claim acknowledged 26 June
AQ sent 2nd August
17 Nov Court Date Set for 29 Jan 2007
Settled in full 12/12/06
well, i recieved the statements for free, i am now writing prelim asking for the money back, does anyone know of wording ammendment for claiming contractual interest
Thats what a put in my prelim. Don't forget to change the figures!
What I require
I calculate that you have taken £2,300.00 plus £614.81 which you have charged me in overdraft interest for the sum which you have taken. Should I have gone overdrawn by this amount, you would have charged me an unauthorised overdraft interest rate of 27.5% APR. It would be reasonable to assume that the principle of mutuality, or reciprocity, applies to the aforementioned contract, and that interest should be charged to yourselves at the same rate on the above figure, for monies which I now consider to have been borrowed without authorisation from me, and under circumstances over which I had no control.
Therefore, the total amount that should be repaid comes to £5,507.42.
Naturally this figure is accruing interest on a daily basis, so I therefore urge you to reach a full settlement at your earliest opportunity. Furthermore, any offers of partial goodwill payments will be accepted only on the basis that it is in lieu of the full amount and is NOT considered to be a Full and final.
Recieved this letter 15 January 2007, any comments.
Dear xxxxxx
Thank you for your letter received at this office xx January 2007.
I am sorry you are unhappy with the charges you have incurred. Your comments are receiving attention and one of my team will contact you as soon as possible.
May I take this opportunity to explain that whilst we will endeavour to respond to you within timescale outlined in your letter, we cannot guarantee that we will do so.
Sometimes it does take longer to fully investigate a complaint. However we do aim to find a solution within four weeks. If we are not able to do so, we will always write to you explaining what is happening. A full report or an update on our progress will be sent to you within eight weeks.
Please refer to the enclosed leaflet which provides you with a more detailed explanation on how we will deal with this matter.
Should you wish to discuss this matter further, please do not hesitate to contact us on xxxxxxxxx
Yours sincerely
Mike Brophy
GIVE IT BACK NatWest
S.A.R SENT. 05 DECEMBER 2006
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
GIVE IT BACK BARCLAYS
S.A.R SENT 05 DECEMBER 2007
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A. SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
GIVE IT BACK NatWest
S.A.R SENT. 05 DECEMBER 2006
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
GIVE IT BACK BARCLAYS
S.A.R SENT 05 DECEMBER 2007
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A. SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
GIVE IT BACK NatWest
S.A.R SENT. 05 DECEMBER 2006
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
GIVE IT BACK BARCLAYS
S.A.R SENT 05 DECEMBER 2007
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A. SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
filed my N1 this morning, got home this evening to find an offer from head office, what to do any suggestions????
GIVE IT BACK NatWest
S.A.R SENT. 05 DECEMBER 2006
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
GIVE IT BACK BARCLAYS
S.A.R SENT 05 DECEMBER 2007
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A. SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
If it is in full then inform them they need to pay your costs and judicial interest or you wont accept due to being filed, if not for full settlement then simply send refusal letter, good luck.
GIVE IT BACK NatWest
S.A.R SENT. 05 DECEMBER 2006
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
GIVE IT BACK BARCLAYS
S.A.R SENT 05 DECEMBER 2007
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A. SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
Recieved notice of issue (specified amount) should I be doing anything with it
Gary..
GIVE IT BACK NatWest
S.A.R SENT. 05 DECEMBER 2006
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
GIVE IT BACK BARCLAYS
S.A.R SENT 05 DECEMBER 2007
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A. SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
Can anyone help me, on the day I filed, recieved offer letter, when we returned from work that evening, value of offer is not the whole claim, shall I respond, or shall I let them know that i filed, any ideas for suitable text
Currently using jonni2bad letter 1
Gary..
GIVE IT BACK NatWest
S.A.R SENT. 05 DECEMBER 2006
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
GIVE IT BACK BARCLAYS
S.A.R SENT 05 DECEMBER 2007
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A. SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
1. The Particulars of Claim do not provide details or particulars of all the precise charges alleged to have been unlawful, or the dates thereof. To the extent it is alleged that the Claimant incurred bank charges on his account for unauthorised borrowings (whether unpaid fees for returned cheques, “paid referral fees” or any other such fees), the Defendant puts the Claimant to strict proof of each charge and the date thereof.
2. This defence is summary in nature and the Defendant reserves the right to amend this statement of case in due course.
3. The Defendant is entitled to charge the Claimant for unauthorised borrowing by reason of its standard terms and conditions. The Claimant accepted the same when the account was opened, including (in particular but without limitation) the following terms and conditions (which are summarised):
3a The Defendant’s right to charge a “paid referral fee” where the Defendant pays an amount (either by compulsion or election) which causes the account to become overdrawn - £30 per item (previously £25).
3b The Defendant right to charge an administrative fee if nay cheque, standing order or direct debit cannot be paid because of insufficient cleared funds in the account - £35 per item (previously £30).
3c The Defendant entitlement, if the Claimant becomes overdrawn without an overdraft limit, to charge interest at the unauthorised borrowing rate on the excess balance.
4 The Defendant’s standard terms and conditions give the Claimant fair and transparent view of those terms and the charges applicable for unauthorised borrowings (including where the account is overdrawn without an overdraft
Limit or where the claimant exceeds his authorised overdraft limit).
5 If and to the extent it is the Claimant’s case that the failure to make necessary payments and / or failure to remain within authorised overdraft limits and / or failure to arrange an authorised overdraft constituted a breach of the terms applying to the account and that the contractual entitlement to debit charges from the Claimant’s account constitutes a liquidated damages clause, the same is denied. The charges constitute payments the claimant agreed to make by reason of the terms and conditions of his account and were consideration for the Defendant advancing credit to the Claimant, which the Defendant was under no obligation to advance. The Defendant was entitled to impose such charges and interest when the Claimant incurred the overdraft.
6 Accordingly, it is denied that the legal principles relating to liquidated damages clauses and penalty charges are relevant or applicable to the facts set out above. Further or alternatively it is denied that any such charges constitute unlawful penalty charges or are in breach of the unfair terms in consumer contracts regulations 1999 (particularly but without limitation to, paragraph 1(e) of schedule 2), or are in breach of Unfair (Contracts) Terms Act 1977 (or any other provision), or are unreasonable within the meaning of s.15 of Supply of Goods and Services Act 1982 (or indeed any other provision).
7 If and to the extent the Claimant incurred charges on his account, this was caused by the Claimant having gone into overdraft without having agreed with the Defendant an authorised overdraft facility or to increase the overdraft facility and / or his failure to make payments to bring balance to the account bank into credit.
8 It is averred that the said charges and interest are and remain lawful and enforceable and that the defendant was entitled to debit the same
9 The Defendant denies that it is liable to the Claimant for the sums claimed and interest, as pleaded or at all. In the alternative if (which is denied) the said charges are enforceable and constituted a breach of contract by the defendant, those charges which were applied to the account prior to 7 February 2001 are not recoverable because they are time-barred under the terms of the limitation act 1980 in that more than six years elapsed since the accrual of the cause of action.
10 In the alternative, and without prejudice to matters stated above, if ( which is denied) the said charges and interest or any part thereof are unlawful or unenforceable as alleged by the Claimant or at all, and the charges were a consequence of the breach of contract by the Claimant, the Defendant has nonetheless suffered loss and damage as a consequence of such breach of contract in allowing the account to go into unauthorised overdraft. Accordingly, in the event that the Defendant is unable to rely on its express entitlement to enforce the charges as set out at paragraphs 3 to 4 above, it will seek to recover to the extent necessary such loss and damage as it actually suffered, which will not necessarily be limited to the value of the said charges, and the Defendant seeks to set off such sums against liability owed hereunder to the Claimant.
Barclays Bank PLC
GIVE IT BACK NatWest
S.A.R SENT. 05 DECEMBER 2006
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
GIVE IT BACK BARCLAYS
S.A.R SENT 05 DECEMBER 2007
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A. SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
GIVE IT BACK NatWest
S.A.R SENT. 05 DECEMBER 2006
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
GIVE IT BACK BARCLAYS
S.A.R SENT 05 DECEMBER 2007
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A. SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
GIVE IT BACK NatWest
S.A.R SENT. 05 DECEMBER 2006
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
GIVE IT BACK BARCLAYS
S.A.R SENT 05 DECEMBER 2007
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A. SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
GIVE IT BACK NatWest
S.A.R SENT. 05 DECEMBER 2006
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007
GIVE IT BACK BARCLAYS
S.A.R SENT 05 DECEMBER 2007
PRELIM SENT 08 JANUARY 2007
L.B.A. SENT 23 JANUARY 2007
N1 FILED 07 FEBRUARY 2007
ALLOCATION TO SMALL CLAIMS TRACK COURT DATE 12 JULY 2007