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    Cool admin charges???

    i have recently moved house and rung up motaquote, my insurance company, to change my address. i was shocked when they said i had to pay them £35 adminicon charges. just to change a few details on the computer!!!! anyway i paid them, then today i rung them up to send out confirmation of my no claims discount as i have now gone with another company. they said as i owe them £87 they wont send it out until that is paid. basically what i want to know is 1) can they charge you to change address and 2) as i have been adminicon fees can they withhold my no claims documents. ( moved house in dec cancelled policy in jan )

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    Hi!

    Motaquote are not an Insurance Company, they are a broker. Under FSA quidelines they are allowed to chrage for services. However these services and charges must have been advised to you previously.

    I need to ascertain the following....

    When was renewal?

    When were you made aware of the charges?

    Why do you owe then £87?

    If you can answer this then I can help you further

    many thanks

    LOULA


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    Default Re: admin charges???

    Charging for charge of address? I'd go to the papers! That unlawful 101

    As asked, what is the £87 for?

    The law maybe reason without passion as Aristotle said, but hey, he said nothing about having fun when getting even!

    Opinions given herein are made informally by myself as a lay-person in good faith based on personal expereince. For legal advice you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.


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    Default Re: admin charges???

    my renewal date was november and i was advised of the fee when i rang them up to change my address. i owe them £87 for a months payment plus charges they added to it. i think its unfair they wont send the no claims proof out to me ive already paid them the adminicon fee.


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    Ok.

    I will put a letter together for you and find out who to complain to.

    Check here again tomorrow for the info

    Night

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loula
    Ok.

    I will put a letter together for you and find out who to complain to.

    Check here again tomorrow for the info

    Night

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    Was gonna do the same, but I'll leave it to you!

    The law maybe reason without passion as Aristotle said, but hey, he said nothing about having fun when getting even!

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    Great minds....!

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    Wink Re: admin charges???

    that will be brilliant. thank you xx


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    Hello Ann

    I think we should use a similar letter to one I post about a charge under the ASDA motor policies.

    I cannot find anything on line about Motaquote, their own website has folded! Speaks volumes if you ask me!

    Also their directors and company secretary keeps changing according to one online report.

    Just found them.. changed their name to ProtectaGroup!

    here is a letter you may wish to send

    M. Chard Esq.
    Chairman
    ProtectaGroup Limited
    Motaquote House
    Dinas Isaf Industrial Estate
    Williamstown
    Rhondda Cynon Taff
    CF40 1NY


    Dear Mr Chard,

    Cancelled Policy Number; XYZ

    I changed the address on Day Month Year and subsequently cancelled my Motagroup car insuranceicon policy, on Day Month Year and was charged £XYZ and £XYZ as administrative charges 'to cover extra paperwork'.

    I believe this to be a penalty which in English (and Scottish) law for breach of contract is not legal if the penalty exceeds the actual cost of the breach. If you say that this is not then will you please demonstrate this by letting me have a full Breakdownicon of the costs as a result of my breach in order to reassure me that your penalty really does reflect your costs?

    I am frankly shocked that you have operated in this way, concealment of the charges in your literature, leads me to believe this is unlawful.

    You are with-holding my No Claims Discount until settlement has been received from me. This again I find unacceptable.

    Please reimburse the £XYZ taken in charges and forward my NCD forthwith.

    Yours faithfully

    Please can you read this carefully. If it is total hogwash let me know. I have had a very tiring day and although I think this reads well, I could be very much mistaken!

    LOULA


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    Smile Re: admin charges???

    no, that letter is a great help. thank you for taking the time to help me. i will get on to them asap. thanks again.

    Mod note: threads merged for reference.


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    Default admin charges?!!!

    i put a thread on here quite a while babk regarding my insurance company. basically i changed address so they charged me £35 in adminicon fees. i have a balance still outstanding with them but need proof of my no claims bonus. they are refusing to give me the no claims proof as i owe them money. i explained that i paid £35 adminicon fees so i want the proof of n.c. i was told i only paid £20 adminicon fees and was told the other £15 is what they charged me because i now live in a high risk area!!!!!!! even though i live in a nice quiet peacefull street. but that shouldn't be an issue. what i need to know is can i get the admin charges back - or at least taken off what i owe them, and am i entitled to my n.c proof b4 i pay off the debt or are they in their rights to withhold this till i pay them. i need advice asap as they keep ringing me at home for payment.


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    Default Re: admin charges?!!!

    Get it in writing, or request a copy of the telephone callicon confirming the Breakdown of the adminicon charges / underwriting change.

    If you get this in writing, also ask them to advise you the reason why they are refusing to confirm that you have x years NCD is because of this payment.

    this could be a sneaky way of getting the proof you need!!!

    Phone the Ombudsmanicon regarding withholding the proof of NCD - they will advise you. If they feel that you have a case go with it. It costs the Insurance Company £100's for the Ombudsman to take on the case, even if they fall on the side of the ins co, so the Insurance Company should give the NCD.

    Have you spoken to your new insurance company???? They can ring the old one for proof of NCD, and I doubt the old Insurance Company will refuse the info.

    Regarding getting the adminicon fee: Yes, you can get it back, follow the usual steps...

    Abbey - owed £3260 - Paid up.

    Barclays owed £2500 - Paid up.

    Halifax, Mint & Egg - next on the hit list

    Dont click on the scales - I'm quite proud of my little red dot! - As the little red dot has gone - click away!!!!

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    Default Re: admin charges?!!!

    thats a great help thank u. also really like the sneaky way of getting the proof. i havn't rung the new insurance company as i didn't know they would be able to get the proof off the other company.

    again many thanks will take your advice


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    Default Re: admin charges?!!!

    I had a similar thing like this today, they wanted to charge me various fees including two adminicon fees - one of £35 (can't remember what that was, cancellation fee I think) and one of £16 adminicon fee.

    I asked him what this cost involved and requested a Breakdownicon. He simply said that this covered several things such as looking for the best quotes, the time taken to deal with, blah blah blah. I said I didn't mind paying an adminicon charge but that the Consumer Goods Act states that they are only allowed to recoup their losses and therefore I should be provided with a breakdown of these costs. I compared it to getting a trolley full of shoping in Tescos and having the cashier charge you the first number they think of.

    Off he went for a minute and suddenly came back saying they would waive these charges, with conditions. I didn't mind the conditions because it's what I wanted anyway, but if it wasn't I would have stood my ground.

    I suggest you ring them and do something similar and good luck!

    But then again, what do I know?

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    hi thanks for that - glad you sorted them out. i was looking thru my paper work yday and found that b4 they put all the late charges etc onto me i owed them £35.11, now its gone upto £97. also found out that they are not allowed to charge such ridiculous amounts for adminicon fees. so the £35 i paid for that i will take off the original price and send them 11p in the post. see how they like that. i may stretch to £1.11, put y should i pay £35 just to change over address!!! no way. good luck to u all



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