Actually that's something which matters a lot less in an EV.

Quite true in fuel efficiency of use - far far far better than diesel or petrol.

I was thinking more of sitting in traffic in the dark and cold using headlights and heater - even when stationary.

Internal Combustion engines of course produce significant heat as a by product - so apart from the very small energy cost of the fans (which loss electric vehicles would also have) - is effectively 'free' in mileage terms. Electric vehicle need to generate the heat from the available charge/range.

and the reduction in range compared to overall mileage available from using headlights is also tiny in IC engines - significant in electric.

Electric batteries of course generate most heat when its not needed - on charging, or when they are overloaded.

I think a number of the Calfornia vehicles also have the solar roofs - not worth the extra weight here :-/

I was thinking more of sitting in traffic in the dark and cold using headlights and heater - even when stationary.

Fair point but as I live in a rural area it doesn't happen like that for me. What does happen as I drive into the local towns is that constant slow down, speed up, slow down again in traffic at which point the car is recharging through the regenerative braking every time I take my foot off the accelerator.

The current generation couldn't be forced upon people as an only car. Where I think they should be used more is as a short term hire car. I drive past a huge (and always near empty) car park for park and ride when I go to Cambridge. People don't want to use the bus if they're going in to shop. I sometimes need to return to my car two or three times with shopping and I couldn't carry it all in one trip on a bus. That park and ride system could easily be a 'park and drive an EV' - a bit like Boris bikes. It would cut down on emissions in towns and cities which is what the government wants.

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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/21/electric-flying-car-lilium-google-uber-vtol-jet-taxi

https://youtu.be/ohig71bwRUE

https://lilium.com/

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/lilium-vertical-take-off-passenger-jet

Dont care if they only do 2 miles on a battery full and take all night on a special circuit to charge

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Do they do a diesel or petrol version - sod the environment.

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Dont care if they only do 2 miles on a battery full and take all night on a special circuit to charge

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Do they do a diesel or petrol version - sod the environment.

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!WANT ONE NOW!

Its a private Harrier Jump Jet - who wouldn't want one

Its gotta be every boys dream (sod the sexism)

Keep yer megawatt cars

ALL together ...

If I had the wings of an Eagle

and the bum'p of a big buffaloooo