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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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Question is why do companies ignore thier employees or even ex-employees ?

 

Still irrelevant to your claim. Their actions are done now, you can't make them change, only they can choose to do so as a result of events.

Focus on your case, trying to work out why they have done what they have done or trying to make them change (other than doing so by beating them in court) is wasted time / effort.

 

Why not start a thread in the Bear Garden where you can rant about how unfair they are, and leave this thread focused on the case........

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aye, but commomly these are at the court nearest to the applicant of the set aside if it is going to be decided on the papers. Objecting to a set aside is not that common a thing, it does happen of course, happened to a friend of mine who had a judgement in his favour set aside twice when the defendant failed to turn up of the court dates. The sod then tried to counterclaim for the costs of attending the third hearing but that was dismissed. This is why you need to see the set aside application and if you think their reason for applying is worthy of comment request a hearing. It may be that an order is made that your objection will be in writing only to keep costs down.

All hearings should be in your local court as litigant in person verses a company......most default judgments are usually granted a set a side hearing...then its down to the reason offered for not acknowledging or submitting a defence
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aye, but commomly these are at the court nearest to the applicant of the set aside if it is going to be decided on the papers. Objecting to a set aside is not that common a thing, it does happen of course, happened to a friend of mine who had a judgement in his favour set aside twice when the defendant failed to turn up of the court dates. The sod then tried to counterclaim for the costs of attending the third hearing but that was dismissed. This is why you need to see the set aside application and if you think their reason for applying is worthy of comment request a hearing. It may be that an order is made that your objection will be in writing only to keep costs down.

 

Where to make an application

 

CPR23.2

 

(1) The general rule is that an application must be made to the court or County Court hearing centre where the claim was started.

(2) If a claim has been transferred to another court, or transferred or sent to another County Court hearing centre since it was started, an application must be made to the court or the County Court hearing centre to which the claim has been transferred or sent, unless there is good reason to make the application to a different court.

 

https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part23

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trouble is he won a default judgement so Northampton CCBC would be thei original court

 

Northampton simply transfer any applications to the Litigants County Court...Northampton is only a CCBC..they dont deal with claims apart from default judgments.

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paperwork also sometimes gets sent to Wigan for some reason. However, you get the drift, a default ist really heard so you need to poke them.

The default judgement was made at The county court centre in Salford. The older system was much quicker.
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I havent seen the papers recieved yet but apparently BBC Cameras were following the enforcement agents when they enforced the Default judgement. Will write up what the application says etc. Also apparently they are following this thread.

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so, now at your local court? This is what it should be for an individual and a corporation regardless of who is defendant. You now have the opportunity to say why the judgement shouldn't be set aside. Stick to the facts and to the law, take your paperwork with you so you have written evidence rather than just oral. This is important when referring to other cases/bits of law etc, no-one will look them up as it is your job to make your case.

 

Basically of your papers were served correctly the fact someone in the company forgot to pass them on or didn't take it seriously enough to file a defence wont win then a set aside but you need to show procedure was followed by having a copy of the CPR's and be able to show that everything was done correctly by you and even after the event you did your best to get the matter sorted before sending in the bailiffs.

 

When did they start following this thread? That itself can show they know about the claim before the bailiffs got involved. You may need to ask the judge to get them to show their hand on this as I'm sure they wont voluntarily admit knowing and ignoring in the hope that you would run out of steam.

 

Then look into the facts of the case, they say they reckon they can get the claim overturned- on what grounds? Obvious one is they dont owe you the money so you need to show your figures and show why they are correct and the reason for suing is sound. May be they say it isn't a breach of contract but another matter that should be dealt with elsewhere so you need to show that correct procedure, lawfulness of claim etc. that mead reference to employment act etc. basically anything you can think of should be taken with you

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In their application to set aside they have stated that they were unaware of the judgement. They also claim they had no contact from me and they had no contact from the enforcement agents. However they managed to make a payment to the enforcement officer the day before they arrived to execute the writ. Also they claim that BBC cameras were also following the enforcement agents .

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In their application to set aside they have stated that they were unaware of the judgement. They also claim they had no contact from me and they had no contact from the enforcement agents. However they managed to make a payment to the enforcement officer the day before they arrived to execute the writ. Also they claim that BBC cameras were also following the enforcement agents .

 

 

Have they put these in their application? If not : irrelevant.

If so, surely they still don't influence if they have made their application "promptly" ; and isn't that they key point on which you are basing your request that the court deny their application...

 

Don't get distracted by irrelevancies, and try to focus the court's attention on the key point(s) of law.

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Have they put these in their application? If not : irrelevant.

If so, surely they still don't influence if they have made their application "promptly" ; and isn't that they key point on which you are basing your request that the court deny their application...

 

Don't get distracted by irrelevancies, and try to focus the court's attention on the key point(s) of law.

 

Ok.

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Have they put these in their application? If not : irrelevant.

If so, surely they still don't influence if they have made their application "promptly" ; and isn't that they key point on which you are basing your request that the court deny their application...

 

Don't get distracted by irrelevancies, and try to focus the court's attention on the key point(s) of law.

 

Yes they have. Just reread what you have asked.

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Have they put these in their application? If not : irrelevant.

 

Yes they have. Just reread what you have asked.

 

Good, as if you know what is in their application you have a copy of it to post up ......... so that a rebuttal can be derived (primarily focusing on the promptness [or lack thereof!] of their application......? )

 

surely they still don't influence if they have made their application "promptly" ; and isn't that they key point on which you are basing your request that the court deny their application...

 

Don't get distracted by irrelevancies, and try to focus the court's attention on the key point(s) of law.

 

New hearing date received for set aside application. See what happens.

 

When is it listed for?

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Good, as if you know what is in their application you have a copy of it to post up ......... so that a rebuttal can be derived (primarily focusing on the promptness [or lack thereof!] of their application......? )

 

 

 

 

 

When is it listed for?

 

11th August 2017

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No order as to when reply is due in . Just waiting to get hold of paperwork to do a word by word thing.

 

There will be no Order as there is no official reply.

 

You can submit a witness statement opposing the application if you want.

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In their application to set aside they have stated that they were unaware of the judgement.

 

Remind me : what have you received that shows what is in their application , and when did you receive it?

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