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    • I have received a PCN from Euro Car Parks for MFG - Esso Cobham - Gravesend. I was completely unaware that there was any such limit for parking and always considered this to be a service station. I stopped there to use the toilet, have a coffee and made a couple of work calls. I have read the previous topics on this location which suggest I can ignore this and ECP will not take legal action. The one possible complication is that the vehicle is leased by my employer so I do not want to involve them with the associated reminders and threatening letters. The PCN was first issued to the leasing company Arval who have notified ECP of the hiring company. I have attached a copy of the PCN Notice to Hirer with details removed as per instructions. What options do I have or should I just pay the PCN promptly at the reduced rate of £60? img20240424_23142631.pdf
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I have a query over applying for a DRO when claiming dla, if someone gets the higher rate mobility but has their own car how do they show repairs they have paid to keep the cars on the road? Will said repairs come under the mobility part? The cab have said that you can only include mobility costs, so does this include the following:

Insurance

mot/servicing

taxis

repairs

petrol.

Also are there top amounts for things like repairs or insurance etc.

thank you.

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not being funny or nosy..

 

 

but why do you think you need to do a DRO?

 

 

can you list your debts?

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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to whom?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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and I bet they are both owned by powerless debt collection agencies..

 

they are NOT BAILIFFS.

 

spill the beans

 

1000's of like thread s here esp the 'at the CCJ stage'

 

we can help easy

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/forumdisplay.php?170-Financial-Legal-Issues

 

have you ever sent these fleecers a CCA request to legally provide the required paperwork to enable them to fleece you?

 

IMHO you don't need a DRO , you need some assistance in fighting these fleecers

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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no fight them its very easy we can help

 

 

a DRO is a knee jerk reaction to a speculative claimform, not the way to dealwith it.

who says you even owe the money? whos the claimant?

 

 

your dla should to all intent and purpose be invisible in a dro

and play no part at all

its your money to manage your disabilities

... not to pay off speculative debts.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Tell that to the cab then as they disagree and say I have to account for every penny I get and that it HAS to be used for mobility or care.

You may enjoy the fight, but I don't, I get confused and I have mobility issues which is why I get the mobility dla.

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sadly we often find this with CAB.

they vary in their good advice enormously..

 

https://cse.google.co.uk/cse?cx=partner-pub-0964707606882478:652l7hswbgv&ie=UTF-8&q=DRO+and+DLA&sa=Search+CAG#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=DRO%20and%20DLA

 

but I say again

a claimform is easy to buff away in most cases with little effort

and even if you do lose THEN you go the DRO route possibly..

 

but with no info we cant help on that.

 

TBH: you sound like a reasoned person, but are simply scared

resolving the claimform by fighting it

is a lot easier than doing a DRO!

 

that's a milstone around your neck for +5yrs and no credit for longer

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I apprieciate what you are saying, but I do not really want credit, I am in no position to buy a house, and I do not plan to start a business.

Just trying to hand write the four letters you suggest and then having to go to the po to sort the p/o and registered post would take me a day and knock me about.

Can you not answer my initial query?

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yes I did in the link I just posted before

 

in essence you need to magic up stuff and inflate figures to soak up the total DLA

yes a car repair budget, insurance tyres, petrol,

 

 

everything and anything you need to budget for

 

 

do you not have friends or a carer neighbour..that can help you with a printer etc

 

 

its only one or two letters depending upon what type of debt the claimform is for and could kill the claim dead.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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that why I said one or two letters

 

 

bank accounts are not covered by the CCA

you only do the CPR 31:14 current account letter.

 

 

so no po required either.

 

 

is this the claimform debt?

if so, 99% of bank account debts are sold on to dca's

because they cant be justified by the bank because of unlawful charges and unlawful interest on them.

 

 

so they sell the debt of

 

 

the dca issues a claimform for the full amount, and tries to fleece you blind..

 

 

most bank account claimform here as you'll read either get stayed or are discontinued by the DCA's

BUT YOU MUST DEFEND IT

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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no bother what so ever..

 

 

you take you time!!

 

 

important things going for you to get right

simple to do but important.

 

 

I hope you've done [AOS] acknowledged the claim, on the mcol website for that claimform mind!..

 

 

catch you later

i'll be here.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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no you don't need xtra time

you auto get 33 days to file a defence from the date of the claimform top right

defend all

leave jurisdiction unticked

 

 

you don't want to give them more time to magic up fake docs

 

 

who's the claimant?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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