Hi all

my son was in a RTA and his car was a write off front end all smashed in and engine was knocked out of the car .

this was in March

in April he got another car and swapped his insurance .

He had no vo form as it was in the glove compartment of the car and this was squashed and no-one could get in it .

He wrote a letter to the Dvla explaining all this .

Then he got a letter telling him he's to be fined for not declaring the car sorn .

We rang and explained what had happened .

he was then sent a letter from leed ps magistrate court and he pleaded not guilty stating why .

In November he got a £5 refund of his road tax for the vehicle .

Dvla won't give us any info on any of this

( they must have had some notification about this for him to get a refund ) .

What evidence can we take to court?

We have none except for the cheque what will happen and is he likely to be found guilty?

It was very traumatic time they were lucky to be alive !

Can def do without all this .

The letter was not sent recorded just a regular stamp.

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?472945-Caught-for-keeping-vehicle-with-no-insurance-**PAID-FINE-TO-DVLA-COURT-CANCELLED**&p=4990696#post4990696

Can I ask did you have a court date when you rang the Dvla ?

I've got the same thing going on but I pleaded not guilty .

Tried to ring to change plea ?

I'm not guilty but don't need the hassle .

Rang Dvla they said they'd no information on it

Just attend court and explain what has happened. Magistrates likely to refer it back to DVLA.

Magistrates would just want statement of facts and it should not matter if copies of letters and proof of posting not kept.

I think i would be asking for DVLA to compensate for any costs incurred in attending the court, when they have already been advised ages ago of the situation.

A complication could be the 'not guilty' plea, have you documentation that you had insurance for the vehicle at the time.

So you're not guilty but want to pleade guilty?

Can I ask did you have a court date when you rang the Dvla ? I've got the same thing going on but I pleaded not guilty . Tried to ring to change plea ? I'm not guilty but don't need the hassle . Rang Dvla they said they'd no information on it

I did have a date when I rang DVLA. Tey had the details on file and said it was a £100 fine to settle before court. I pleaded guilty but forgot to return income statement with plea.

The car was in an accident I've created a thread on it if you want to look

Thankyou

If you were the Registered Keeper at the time, and the vehicle was not insured (or exempt), you would be guilty of the offence - s.144A, Road Traffic Act 1988.

If the vehicle had been declared SORN, it would have been exempt.

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So you're not guilty but want to pleade guilty?

He pleaded not guilty then it's gone to trial . His guilty of not sending the correct form but as this was unobtainable he wrote and told them what had happened .

He pleaded not guilty then it's gone to trial . His guilty of not sending the correct form but as this was unobtainable he wrote and told them what had happened .

He would have only needed the form the V890 for SORN - obtainable from a main Post Offices, or download from the .gov.uk website.

He pleaded not guilty then it's gone to trial . His guilty of not sending the correct form but as this was unobtainable he wrote and told them what had happened .

These situations do really annoy me.

Quite a few years ago, i was going to be away on holiday when the tax was due, so i made a temporary SORN application by letter to DVLA and they processed it without any problem. They did not worry about form x being required.

Now you can SORN online if you have the information from the V5 reg document.

If you are without the V5 reg docs you can probably get form x from the Post Office to complete.

BUT given that the car was in a serious accident in March and the V5 was in the vehicle when it was taken away as part of an accident Insurance claim, then it made notification to DVLA more difficult. If DVLA were contacted in April by letter, then if this is correct then advise Magistrates of this and the circumstances.

I can't see Magistrates prosecuting for not filling in thr correct form. You just have to defend in court by providing an explanation.

He would have only needed the form the V890 for SORN - obtainable from a main Post Offices, or download from the .gov.uk website.

Di will remember that if it happens again ! Which I sincerely hope it doesn't !

sorry ive posted this later than anticipated

the dvla two days before the court date sent my son a letter saying that in light of further evidence sent to them (non was sent by him )

the matter would not be proceeding !

so we are alot wiser and a few quid wiser