urh..I though only trump & the kiddie lived in la la land

Well they don't do they, their bombs are bigger than your bombs. Not so la la eh

Let's hope there's technology in place to stop these catastrophic weapons in the sense if they are activated they can be sent off course and neutralised in a safe way.

or blown up just after launch

or blown up just after launch

 

If only you could rely on that to always be the case:razz:

Anyway, USA in nearby waters ready to intercept ballistics.

BTW remember originally I referred to nuclear

Let's hope there's technology in place to stop these catastrophic weapons in the sense if they are activated they can be sent off course and neutralised in a safe way.

apparently there may be ....a rag report;

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/792502/North-Korea-failed-missile-test-computer-hackers-sabotage-Sir-Malcolm-Rifkind-Kim-Jong-un

There is a rumour that Trump has asked Bruce Willis and his team to stand by for an emergency call

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-space-asteroid-idUKKBN17K2D6

 

Anyway, USA in nearby waters ready to intercept ballistics.

 

 

BTW remember originally I referred to nuclear

not quite nearby it has transpired 'phantom armada'. see, how the 'media' has its role in the rhetoric.

forget about the ballistics, how about the apparent sats..

a general read re;

http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2017/04/19/frank-gaffney-china-considers-bad-behavior-from-north-korea-a-strategic-asset/

did the US rhetoric work, china apparently is 'seriously concerned' about n korea (bbc). serious enough to reel them in? or do they indeed '...consider bad behavior from North Korea to be a strategic asset for them.” (link above)

US f-35's now in the uk on their first overseas deployment, 'described by the USAF as part of an "increased deterrent".' bbc

US f-35's now in the uk on their first overseas deployment, 'described by the USAF as part of an "increased deterrent".' bbc

What are they here to deter us from?

This is a 2015 article so looks like a normal presence.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/us-announces-first-f-35-in-europe-to-be-based-in-the-uk

This is a 2015 article so looks like a normal presence.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/us-announces-first-f-35-in-europe-to-be-based-in-the-uk

cheers. from the obama admin. but, 3 yrs ahead of schedule. apparently to 'reassure europe'.

a few have recently been delivered to israel as part of their 50 unit order.

What are they here to deter us from?

China and Russia still support N Korea (though Russia less so) because they want to tie up S Korea, Japan and the US for economic reasons rather than security. N Korea has to keep crying wolf or their people might start to become diinterested in their supposed fate at the hands of these sopposed enemies.

China use to try and cause mischief in Taiwan but that went off the boil but it is likely to become the focus of more attention as China expands into the pacific with its grabbing of territory by building islands in the midlle of nowhere and then using a military presence to threaten anyone who even monitors their activity from international airspace or water.

What are the rest of the world going to do about it? Nothing If India decided to go all out for growth and military expansion you would see a reining in of some of this muscle flexing as India has traditionally got on well with its neighbour, Russia as well as the west. However, that may make a pre-emptive strike more likely if China did then look like slapping N Korea down.

a US sub beats the US fleet to s korea...

re those islands, some journo info.

http://www.newsweek.com/china-south-china-sea-islands-build-military-territory-expand-575161

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/12/philippines-wins-south-china-sea-case-against-china

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/04/07/1688529/duterte-orders-afp-occupy-philippine-islands-south-china-sea

http://www.todayonline.com/commentary/while-trump-and-xi-dine-duterte-shoots-blindly

comedy central/channel the president show...well worth a watch - 2 eps so -far..

absolutely brilliant

dx

Trump’s Cabinet, With a Prod, Extols the ‘Blessing’ of Serving Him

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/12/us/politics/trump-boasts-of-record-setting-pace-of-activity.html?emc=edit_mb e_20170613&nl=morning-briefing-europe&nlid=80833938&te=1

Senator Chuck Schumer, Democrat of New York and the minority leader, sat at a table with young staff members who, at his prompting, praised his performance on Sunday talk shows and the appearance of his hair.

I am privileged to be here — deeply honored — and I want to thank you for your commitment to the American workers,” said Alexander Acosta, the secretary of labor.

Trump waiting to be popular before he visits the UK. Long wait then

Trump waiting to be popular before he visits the UK. Long wait then

Even more embarrassment for May, with her having invited him 'on behalf of the Queen

Note that in Tory rhetoric, its now just the Queen that invited Trump

Even more embarrassment for May, with her having invited him 'on behalf of the Queen

Note that in Tory rhetoric, its now just the Queen that invited Trump

 

I suspect due to the hung Parliament, other countries investors might see May as weak and unable to deliver on any trade deals that they might want to agree. And they will think that Brexit is going to take such a long time, that there is no point looking at any trade deals with the UK post Brexit, as that might be beyond 2019.

May only ever wanted Trump to visit because she thought she might encourage a trade deal with the US soon after Brexit in March 2019. But that is not likely and there is talk of UK staying part of EU single market.

I suspect due to the hung Parliament, other countries investors might see May as weak and unable to deliver on any trade deals that they might want to agree. And they will think that Brexit is going to take such a long time, that there is no point looking at any trade deals with the UK post Brexit, as that might be beyond 2019.

 

May only ever wanted Trump to visit because she thought she might encourage a trade deal with the US soon after Brexit in March 2019. But that is not likely and there is talk of UK staying part of EU single market.

I dont believe May's 'weakness has a great deal to do with it.

The yanks will still be happy to offer a TTIP deal which is all in their favour and decimating to UK standards and companies (no change)

and no one else wants to let the UK do just that to them as May rhetoric wants.

India - not interested without visas, and wants to be selling their cheaper than our services in competition to one of our major employment areas

Japan - losing interest except as a market and money stall, with the money markets on the move away from the UK

Korea - wants to sell to us and get into the risk free (to them) UK nuclear energy building and sales

China - happy to sell to anyone as long as there are far more Chinese exports than imports and invest in our risk free (to them) nuclear and energy industry

Australia - happy to sell us beef and Lamb when our agro/dairy industry collapses with 30% tarriffs and no subsidies

.. and with the way global warming is affecting them - ready cooked

and happy to import import our nurses and doctors and professionals

EU - still happy to deal fairly with us as an insider or outsider, as long as we cut the crap and deal fairly with them

Russia - probably happy to sell us cheap gas direct rather than through the EU at only a small premium, and would probably sell us nuclear missile launching subs cheaper than us building them

- If we can find some way of earning the money to pay ... or possibly even not ..

this would probably be better in the article 50 and May thread

Some of that trade requires legislation to reduce standards and at the moment little chance of Parliament agreeing.

Some of that trade requires legislation to reduce standards and at the moment little chance of Parliament agreeing.

What if there is no one else apart from Russia or Trumps even worse than TTIP version of TTIP?

not even WTO rules with EU if we renege on existing agreements?

What if there is no one else apart from Russia or Trumps even worse than TTIP version of TTIP?

not even WTO rules with EU if we renege on existing agreements?

Theresa May and David Davis have already been told by the EU that if they want to discuss trade deals within Brexit talks, that the 2 years Article 50 will need to be extended. This is because the EU require Brexit to be agreed first and that the EU is not ready to discuss future trade relationship with the UK.

Until the UK/EU has done a deal which might take 3 years or more, the UK is unable to discuss any trade deal with the US. Trump was unaware that he could not do a separate deal with Germany and had to deal with the whole of the EU.

It is going to be very messy and there might be another UK election. Trump might also be impeached and US politics changes as a result.

yes but the rhetoric from the Tories is no extension,

I'm quite sure the current plan is still Hard Brexit at the end of the 2 years blaming the EU.

That may change, but I dont think it has as yet.

oh - and Trump may go, but ttip will remain the Yank option.

!!!!!!!

You need to be aware of the situation there to really appreciate how mad this is

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/20/us-saudi-arabia-qatar-embargo-trump

"fire and fury", "locked and loaded" he says in response to n korea. what do you reckon, the usual rhetoric...or

'when the chimes end...'...

Shame no superperson who can whisk away the missiles from the air

The thing is how do you change the mind set of all those people who have been brain washed. Kim would be out on a limb if his military turned against the regime. More connection with the world and not be isolated which Kim does.

A resistance within the country is needed.

What about hacking their TV media stations and showing what goodies and life experiences they could have without Kim.