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    • Just to clear it up, sorry I don't make sense sometimes. I have paid £4000 £1200 of that was suppose to clear the £1200 debt.   Meaning I have sent a extra £2800 on top of my normal mainternance money.   Thank you
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    • Hi, I shown my key worker a letter that was sent to me saying that I owe £1200, she setup a standing order around 2021, this was to pay back money I owed, with my mental health status I have had complex issues to deal with and I just simply forgot about this standing order so it has been running for about 3.5 years acording to my key worker, anyway I'm not worried about the money that was sent that I call a overpayment, it went towards supporting my child's household so I am just happy with that, I am a little sad that I am being told I still owe this £1200, I have sent bank statements over 3 years worth but they have not taken away this £1200 bill and still say I owe it   Thank you
    • She did try contacting EON in the early days of the debt but they refused to speak to her because she could not pass the security checks. She didn't know the answers on an account she hadn't opened?   I also saw this article recently which could be what has happended here: Debt collection agencies in the UK are using fair means or foul to link people to an address where an unpaid debt has been run up, sometimes years after they have moved out The Guardian Anna Tims Mon 22 Apr 2024 The letter from the debt collection agency arrived out of the blue, and it was intimidating. It informed Joshua Simpson* that he owed £2,212 to Octopus Energy, and accused him of ignoring previous requests to settle the bill. If he did not stump up within 14 days, he was told, further action would be taken to recover the money. Simpson checked his Octopus account – it was in credit. Then he noticed the address where the debt had been accrued between 2022 and 2023. It was his childhood home – which his family had sold 18 years previously. "Since I was only 16 when we left the property, I was astonished that they'd linked my name [to it]," he says. "The debt collection agency insisted I provide a tenancy agreement to prove how long I've lived at my current address. I couldn't, since we bought our home. "They are now actively pursuing me for this debt, causing me a huge amount of stress. We are about to remortgage, and if this debt prevents us switching to a better deal, we will face real financial hardship." Simpson had been sucked into the shadowy world of "identity tracing", whereby investigators recruited by creditors seek to locate individuals who have moved home without paying their bills. It is an unregulated sector where anyone can set up as an agent in a back room without a licence, or scrutiny, and use fair means or foul to identify debtors. Reputable companies join a trade association that operates a code of practice, but membership is not mandatory, and mistakes are common. Last year, a teenage boy was chased for a debt of more than £900 by debt collectors acting for the energy company Ovo. A "trace agent" had somehow linked him to the debt because his parents had previously rented the property in question. An investigation by the Observer established that the debt had been run up by a subsequent tenant. The consequences of mistaken identity can be catastrophic. Individuals who are erroneously linked to a debt face, at worst, court action, bailiffs and a ruined credit rating. At best, they can endure weeks of stress and paperwork in order to prove they are not the debtor. It is estimated that 20m identity traces are made in the UK every year, many on behalf of companies that are owed money. Personal data is often obtained from credit reference agencies, which record applications for credit, and details are supposed to be verified with several different sources before being used for debt enforcement. In practice, however, this does not always happen. Simpson's details had been passed along a chain of intermediaries before the demand was issued. Octopus had given the unpaid account to a debt collection agent, which had contracted a tracing service, GBG, to find the debtor................ Full Article: https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/oct/04/a-cry-for-help-energy-providers-play-the-villain-in-dramas-to-chill-the-blood ..............The Financial Ombudsman Service, which investigates complaints about financial firms, states that debt collection agents have to produce convincing evidence to link an individual to a debt, rather than rely on names, addresses and birth dates. According to the trade association, the Institute of Professional Investigators, an unknown number of investigators and trace agents are operating below the radar. Many more are merely inept, as data protection compliance training is not mandatory. "We have been campaigning for many, many years to try to get all private investigators regulated," says secretary general Glyn Evans.
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Hi there, do you have any idea on filling out self-assessments (uk) - My background..

 

Basically, I had an injury with left me unable to work before the 2015-16 tax year started. I was self-employed with my own business which I officially ended a few days into tax year, and had a day job but didn't work the entire year due to my injuries so was on SSP (Statutory Sick Pay). My boss held the job open for when I recovered after the tax year, the SSP ended, and went in to ESA and then also later in that tax year PIP.

 

So my query:

1. At the end of the year instead of a P60 my boss sent me a P60U, was I meant to be given a P60 as well, seeing as I was just on SSP?

 

2. Does the P60u cover the ESA & PIP, or was I meant to be sent something for PIP as well to put in my self-assessment?

 

Many thanks, even if you can just answer 1. or 2. !!

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When I received SSP the DWP sent me a P60 as the money is paid tax free but is liable to tax. on your SA form there should be a space for other income so you can specify it and any tax already paid by either PAYE or collected as an advance against the year's total expected tax take.

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thanks for your info - I already have the figures from my P60U in the later part of the SA. But for the income amount for the 'total pay' of my day job 'from P60' and 'tax taken off' part, I have just got '0' amounts - as I didn't get a P60, so does anyone have an idea whether it would be okay to leave it as that?

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you could ask the tax office using either your NI number as a reference or the number on the P60 that identifies the tax centre. they will be able to tell you what tax has been collected on that particular employment.

If the true answer is 0 then put that in the box and the calculations will take that into account. (if online)

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^Thanks (yes, online):

1. Am not a fan of ringing them up as the time/cost getting through in the past, etc. am not in a rush atm, so would like to explore whether an alternative method if possible?

2. For my PIP, didn't receive any forms/annual statements so would have to look at my bank statements to work it out but am assuming its not a taxable benefit as I can't see anywhere to put it on the SA anyway, so atm I'm leaving it out. Hope this is right.

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..My thinking would be to use my pay slips or amounts gone in to my bank statements in that tax year till my SSP ended, for the amount of the 'total pay' of the day job 'from P60' part, and for the 'tax taken off' part to leave as blank. Though my dilemma, not 100% sure the SSP would already be part of the ESA to leave out? I'm also using the PAYE reference code from my P60U as my 'day jobs' reference. I think this strategy is correct.

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all benefits and pensions are taxable but they are paid without tax being deducted as most people dont actually have to pay tax on them because they are too poor to reach the tax threshold. Therefore you should put them down on a tax return. I believe that unless you agree with them to take any overpayment of benefit/underpayment of tax on said benefit as an adjustment to your tax code they will find it very difficult to recover any monies due if your pay is below a qualifying threshold.

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Sorry i don't understand, would my current strategy for 1. work?

For 2. would it matter that I made '0' from self-employment work as I closed it on the 12th April, and that the benefits started well after I ended self-employment (but in the tax year)? I have got ESA on, but is there a spot to put the PIP on the self-assessment I can't find it? Many thanks again.

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