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    and as Masy gets the OK to trigger article 50

    Scotland announces a new independence referendum
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-bri...-idUKKBN16K2GV

    and Sinn Fein excalates NI referendum on leaving UK and reunification of Ireland in the EU supported by recent votes
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-bri...-idUKKBN16K28E


    Which brings us some big steps nearer to the creation of The Fiefdoms of London (previously known as England and Wales ... unless Wales also jumps ..) ...

    UNLESS Remain voting, multicultural and international trade dependent London secedes from the remnants of the UK and rejoins the EU as well ...
    (They already know that OFFICIALLY being an international LOW tax haven wont pay enough as they already are the worlds unofficial NO tax haven - why would they start paying tax?)

    which would leave errr Grantham??

    (Not so far fetched as NEVER forget that only 30 odd percent of the UK actually voted leave)
    .. and how many millions of those leave voters voted based on the LIE of 350M a week extra for the NHS)


    Mind you - probably little left of London anyway apart from Westminster
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...hreaten-exodus


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    What will almost certainly happen is that May will do her utmost to delay any Scot or Irish referendums in the hope that the EU is going to be hit by more countries leaving - or at least look like they might, so as to sway public opinion with risk that they would be leaving the UK into a collapsing block.

    Might work too.
    The UK leaving instead of leading change in the EU is a severe blow.

    If the UK had driven positive and constructive change while a member instead of looking after the few, things could have been very different. If we do end up not leaving, our politicians approach and goals MUST be very different


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    and Mays hopes to divide and conquer Europe start to dissolve as the sugar coated hazards to health and wellbeing they are.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...therlands-live

    Just demonstrates May is no Churchill.
    Churchill brought nations together for historic victories.


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    Now wont it be interesting if vote leave has a case to answer

    https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...%A3350m-claims

    and wont that be embarrassing for May relentlessly pursuing a Brexit that was garnered from illegal, rather than just immoral, manipulation?


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    What will almost certainly happen is that May will do her utmost to delay any Scot or Irish referendums...
    the more May voices, the more it is the pretender
    'precious union'....
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-39281368


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    We don't want a 2nd referendum (well I don't, neither does anyone I know) Nicola Sturgeon can spout some garbage, she'll talk herself out of a job shortly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by maroondevo52 View Post
    We don't want a 2nd referendum (well I don't, neither does anyone I know) Nicola Sturgeon can spout some garbage, she'll talk herself out of a job shortly.

    A lot of Scots I know don't want one either. They just want her to sort out the issues she promised to sort out.. eg Health and Education.


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    This was in the Guardian today.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...MCNEWEML6619I2

    HB


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    Quote Originally Posted by honeybee13 View Post
    Think the articles pretty spot on HB, I never hear anyone talking about a 2nd referendum bar Nicola Sturgeon.


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    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...MCNEWEML6619I2

    Betty Reid, one of the pro-independence voters who also voted for Brexit, was still selling everything from fishing rods to rolling papers. But she has now changed her mind on independence. “Why leave the UK for someone else to tell us what to do?” she asked, which is a perfectly logical position awaiting a party to proclaim it. But she would not vote yes again. “I feel now we are not able to be self-sufficient. We’ve not got the industry.”
    I like this statement from Betty Reid.


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    Its also interesting to see articles regarding Scotlands finances and the Sturgeon has overspent on Schools and Hospitals ..

    What a darned disgrace when that money could have gone toward the English parliaments Trillions in supporting the bankers.
    Particularly when a number of those banks are considering moving to Edinburgh if Scotland gets an EU deal - as they may once the EU are able to offer one ....


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    Quote Originally Posted by maroondevo52 View Post
    Think the articles pretty spot on HB, I never hear anyone talking about a 2nd referendum bar Nicola Sturgeon.

    How much do you think the Scottish independence vote was affected by the selling point that an independent Scotland would NOT be a part of the EU, and would have to spend years applying with NO certainty of membership?

    Because NOW there is a measure of certainty that they will be dragged out the EU if they remain part of the UK
    No other option is certain.

    Of course if the UK does not leave the EU, Sturgeon is rather scuppered.


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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39321579

    Brexit will cause the care crisis to become worse, because any visa system for the workforce number required will make it worse. After Brexit EU care workers will be part of any visa system, therefore making it more difficult to retain/recruit staff. Given the estimate of 2 million extra care workers by 2025 in England alone, i can't see how net migration can be restricted to tens of thousands. Think about all of the other sectors of the economy needing to recruit.

    If Brexit does cause the UK economy problems, then there could be even less money available for care. Government then might say that the plan to cap peoples care contributions to avoid selling their homes will be scrapped. Instead they might say that if people need to go into care homes, that if they cannot pay the fees, that they will have to sell their homes immediately and allow councils a charge against them.

    Once reality starts to kick in sector by sector in the economy and people who voted leave start to be faced with consequences of their votes, then government will be under massive pressure to stop Brexit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by unclebulgaria67 View Post
    Once reality starts to kick in sector by sector in the economy and people who voted leave start to be faced with consequences of their votes, then government will be under massive pressure to stop Brexit.
    But all they hear is 'will of the 37% of the UK populous who were conned into voting leave for many different reasons, pretty much none of which will come about.

    May has apparently 'ruled out' a May 4th snap election to take advantage of the Labour parties final decent into meaningless nothingness

    Labour corbynista minions say we should now give him two years rather than the one year that was originally stated needed for the the Carbuncle on the backside of the Labour party to ;turn around' the public's derision and distrust of him ....

    So May the 4th probably isnt vote Mayday then. She should have done it BEFORE triggering article 50 - in fact when Cameron resigned. It gets untidier and more dishonest by the day.


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    and the EU says it quite clearly and rationally, unlike May and the Brexit crew continuing the Brexit campaigns utter BS,

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...talks-to-start

    https://www.ft.com/content/e7c69670-...0-768954394623


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    read carefully
    Consider why there is so much investment through the UK, and why it WILL stop

    http://uk.businessinsider.com/study-...edium=referral


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    and as the EU distances itself from an increasingly authoritarian Turkey (Erdogan), and Turkeys relations with Greece deteriorate even faster, ..

    Boris Johnson attends a Turkey- UK summit, building relationships with our post EU potential major ally Turkey, untrustworthy as Turkey has repeatedly proven to be (what bwas it Johnson and Farage said about Tujrkey joining the EU !!!)

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...cation-erdogan

    What was that about a free trade with Turkey and Turkeys citizens getting expedited access to the UK?

    Ah well - plenty of arms sales if Turkey ends up at war with the EU and splits NATO completely.

    Putin must be well pleased
    Brexit and Farage/Banks - Russias floating emissaries
    Trump elected and turning America inside out
    and Now Turkey potentially splitting NATO in exchange for some territory in the North of Syria now the US coalition has failed to seat Turkeys AL Nusra in control over Syria.

    Rudd turning the UK into a police state (Putin says 'told you it was the way to go')

    Jesus really would weep


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    lets take a quick review of the possibleissues and drivers surrounding the upcoming by elections in Stoke and Copeland


    The Headline issues are

    NHS
    Tories
    Tory candidate has said she is 100% against the downgrading ofthe local hospital, BUT Teressa May has repeatedly avoided confirming any support for her candidates stance even in her visit there to 'support' that Tory candidate. Which seems to clearly show that the NHS will get continued cuts from the Tories and the local hospital will be downgraged. No last minute 'announcement' should be trusted any more than UKIP lies regarding their intent for healthcare.

    UKIP
    Have long standing full blown shut down/privatise policies which are changed very temporarily (they lie) if its in their interest to do so.

    Labour
    Support for NHS is part and parcel of the Labour ethos as stated - but with Corbyn - who knows what that will be. Corbyn has had the sense to stay away and not drag the none- Corbyn local labour selection (unlike May).

    Lib Dems
    probably the most rational and coherent policies on supporting the Energy/Nuclear and the NHS and healthcare


    Brexit or Bremain

    Tories
    - With Maybe Maybenot who knows what we will get - but probably hard brexit with some bits for the rich and privileged (and maybe International car manufacturers and International bankers)

    Ukip
    a subset of What the Tories offer AT BEST - and they LIE.

    Labour

    Whatever the Tories want they will support except for 'moral objections'

    Lib Dems
    Anti Hard Brexit. anti Brexit



    Nuclear energy

    Tories
    Yes as long as someone else pays (oe at least someone else who we can give unlimited taxpayer funds to so they can say someone else is paying).Toshiba in this case. So the Tories are hiving off our energy utilities and current and future tax payers money to foreign interests
    BUT look at the massive problems Toshiba and EDF are having with their nuclear energy businesses - EDF and Toshiba are proving consistantly unable to meet their nuclear commitments around the world)


    Labour
    Corbyn is 100% anti-nuclear in all its forms - and pro disarmament in an increasingly dangerous world - but has no real plans for acheivable alternatives

    UKIP
    You simply cant believe a word they say.

    Lib Dems
    For nuclear energy, 'broadly' against weapons and nuclear armament escalation. May be far more 'UK owned nuclear positive' than the Tories




    So if your overwhelming issue is:
    (provided the voting is based on informed logic (fat chance) rather than emotive rhetoric)

    Bremain = Lib Dems

    BREXIT = Tories (with some deals for the fortunate) or UKIP (just tell 'em to FO)

    Support The NHS = LibDems or Labour

    Destroy the NHS = UKIP

    Nuclear+ - its a vote for Libdems or Tory (but more/all owned by foreigners with the Tories)

    No Nuclear- = Labour


    Mix and matches

    Privatise/end NHS and end Healthcare and Hardest Brexit = UKIP
    Slower Privatisation/erosion of NHS and Hard Brexit = Tories
    Nuclear+ AND Brexit+ = Tories
    NHS+ AND Brexit+ = Labour
    NHS+ and Bremain+ = Lib DemsNuclear+ AND the NHS+ = Lib Dems


    Multi-choice

    Like people who BS and Lie enough to make all the others seem like saints = UKIP

    else

    Nuclear+
    and continued NHS erosion/privatisation and Brexit = Tories

    No Nuclear
    and NHS+ and Brexit = Labour

    Nuclear+
    and NHS+ and Brexit+ = No real option

    Nuclear power+
    and NHS+ and Bremain+ = Lib Dems


    Outcome issues for parties

    Will be a disaster for UKIP in this heavy Brexit vote area if they lose votes, or even dont win. and with the proven LIES and nothing to offer - they should be boycotted

    Will be a disaster for Labour if they lose both by elections

    Will be a massive statement by the public if LibDems win even 1, or even gain LARGE voter %

    Tory losses will be further damnation on the may government that:
    Is not elected and hence has NO mandate


    Cant argue too much with this:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a7587371.html
    See above highlighted and underlined:
    and Toshiba westinghouse nuclear files for chapter 11

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-to...-idUSKBN16X12P


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    Did you read this article in Huffington post.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...b0f838c62e298b



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