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    • Hi I was being supplied my ovo after unknowingly being swapped from SSE.  My issues began when we had a smart meter fitted and our bills almost doubled overnight - we at the time assumed we were just paying not enough until then and just continued to pay the excess bills each. Month.    I would from time to time contact ovo and get faced with a call centre on South Africa of the most rude agents who would just hang up after hours of wait and I could not even get an acknowledgement of an issue with my meter.  At one point we were not in the property for like 4 months and the bills were coming just as high!  It was at this point I was sure something is not right and ovo only care to send bailiffs and started threatening us with a pay as you go meter despite me taking out a 3.5k loan to pay of my outstanding balance.  Around 1600 each on both gas and electricity.  This is where its gets really bad -  the very same day they sent me out a new bill saying the money paid already was only to cover up until the November previous and because its now Feb we owe another 1k.   By that August this had risen to over 3k and I still couldn't get anyone to even acknowledge a fault let alone fix it.    In despair I tried to swap suppliers and to my surprise octopus accepted us because even tho the debt is owed we are trying deal with.  During our time with them the bill was coming only on my wife's name as I was responsible for other bills and she this one - now that we owe them 3k they have magically started adding my name as well as my wife's to the same debt to apply double pressure and its showing on my experiwn report now with a question mark and 2700 showing in grey -  This was my wife's debt which we dispute we owe yet the have now sent me letter with both our names on from oriel and past due credit debt agencies - is this illegal and how can I get them to take my. Name of this and leave on wife's name as its so unfair they give us a both a defualt for wife's debt which we dispute anyway.    In the end about 3 weeks ago I wrote an email to their ceo and rishi sunak and low and behold for the first time in our history with ovo someone who spoke English contacted us and said she will look into our claim.    I explained to her that we feel our meter is faulty and despite me contacting them using WhatsApp email and phone I still have not got anyone to acknowledge a fault even. And that I dispute I Owe anything as my son was in hospital for 3 months and we stayed with him so house was empty and still. They were sending us super sized bills more than when we started at home.  She promised to investigate and a few days later replied that she is sorry for the poor customer service and offered us £50 compensation - however she also. Mentioned that she's attached statements for us confirming the payment for 3k I made was only up until Nov and in Feb despite me pay 3.5k nearly it's correct for them to bill. Me. Another £900 the very same day and she did not agree our meter was faulty and therfore the debt stands and she will not be calling it bcak from past due credit.  During my time with my new supplier post ovo, octopus I requested tehy check my. Meters because I felt they were faulty and over charging me and I got excellent response asking me for further details which I supplied and I got a. Response bcak within days to say my meter was indeed faulty and octopus have now remotely repaired it.   I then contacted the energy ombudsman and explained my situation how she at ovo tried to fob me off and demand I apy money we don't feel we owe due to faulty equipment we reported but ovo had to process or mechanism to deal with it or lodge complaint even without having to cc their ceo and our pm. And now I feel sick to think both husband and wife will get a 6  year default for debt which have a validity of a questionable nature.    I explained all this to the energy ombudsman and they accepted my case and I explained to them that my new supplier found my fault which ovo refueed to accept - I've uploaded the email from new supplier to ombudsman showing we had a fault.    My. Question is is there anything I can upload in defence of my case to ombudsman before they decide outcome ina few weeks    All advice greatly appreciated not only would I like advice on how to clear this debt but also how I can pursue ovo for compensation and deterrence for the future.  Thansk 
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I recently bought a second hand car. because of my busy life it became clear that I would struggle to take delivery. The salesman agreed to bring it to my house to complete the sale. He was late and I couldn't wait for him. Despite him knowing that I couldn't complete other than that one chance the dealers are trying to insist that I complete and wont refund my money. He was late because of a traffic jam which they say was unavoidable. The roadworks which caused it have been there for 2 years. What are my options?

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Are you trying to achieve completion or a refund?

 

Did you pay in full?

 

Other than delivery, what else is required in order to complete the sale?

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Refund. I paid in full ready for them arriving . When I signed the contract they knew that it was the only opportunity I had for over a month and I was ready to leave it but they told me that they would deliver. That was the only reason I agreed

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It seems rather implausible that you don't have 15 minutes at some time during the week. How do you eat ?

 

You have a contract and unless delivery is part of that contract, he is not obliged to deliver especially on such a tight window.

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It seems rather implausible that you don't have 15 minutes at some time during the week. How do you eat ?

 

You have a contract and unless delivery is part of that contract, he is not obliged to deliver especially on such a tight window.

He was aware that there was only the one opportunity to deliver. I am away from home .

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Unless you had that written into any contract i dont see on what grounds you could complain, offering such a small window of opportunity for delivery could be deemed unreasonable

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OP youre getting the same responses here as your other thread on MSE.

 

I'm sure if you post in enough places then eventually someone will tell you what you want to hear.

 

But the fact of the matter is this is the real world and you need to be reasonable. The dealer got caught in a traffic jam, it happens, get over it.

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OP youre getting the same responses here as your other thread on MSE.

 

I'm sure if you post in enough places then eventually someone will tell you what you want to hear.

 

But the fact of the matter is this is the real world and you need to be reasonable. The dealer got caught in a traffic jam, it happens, get over it.

 

Well found OJB

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Whether the contract is written or merely verbal – or whether the requirement relating to delivery is written or merely verbal, has no relevance whatsoever. However, it can be useful evidentially because it if there is a dispute as to what you say you said against what they say you said, then it could get complicated.

 

If you can show that you made it clear that the delivery time was an essential element of the contract then you have a good basis for rejecting the contract and going for a refund.

 

Let me say that a judge will probably want fairly heavy proof that this was agreed and that they fully understood how essential the delivery stipulation was to your decision to enter into a purchase contract with them.

 

If it was all done verbally and it is merely your word against theirs then I think that you may have difficulty.

 

Could there be some other reason which is also added weight your decision to withdraw from the contract?

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When you talked about delivery, if you had stated "time is of the essence" and he failed to show during that time, then the contract can be regarded as terminated.

 

When ever you contact a trader, of any type, face to face, record the call. It's easy to have a mobile in your shirt pocket set on record.

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  • 1 year later...

It is over a year since this happened and after reading the last response from Connif I was able to get a full refund as notes had been made by the showroom during the process which I had picked up and was able to provide back to them . Thank you very much for your help. I was not well at the time and some of the responses upset me as they were judgmental and rude. I posted on two forums as was pointed out in the thread as I had no idea whether I would get any help from either one and I was trying to reach as many experts as possible. The other one was removed because of the vicious comments made to me. So, thank you again Connif for your help and thank you for sharing your excellent knowledge.

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