Hello everyone,

I have already read quite a lot of things here,

and I have seen that everyone is trying to help as best as they can,

and I was just amazed by that.

I'd like to apologize if there are some things that you don't understand,

I am french, just trying to do my best.

two days ago I stole 3items from Primark in Picadilly with my boyfriend.

I know how bad it is, and how I should have thought about that before doing that stupid thing.

It was the first time I ever steal and same for my boyfriend.

We are both 16. Even though, we bought some stuffs (3items) the security obviously got us.

I have the Algerian/dutch nationality so he used to be like 'if you can't talk to me in Arabic,

than I will only let your boyfriend leave'.

we gave our ID,

gave the items that we have stolen,

they took a picture, and

then he asked us our email address

saying that if our parents aren't checking on it,

then we're lucky because they won't know about it.

No police were called, and as we were alone in England,

he let us leave without a 18 year old person.

Now, I have different questions:

Would it be a letter?

Or could it be an email as well?

I know that what we've done was so so wrong, and we'll just never do it again.

But the thing is, my parents just CANT know at all.

I should have think about that before, right.

Also I read that we don't have to pay the fine etc,

but if we pay it, would they only send one letter?

I know that I shouldn't pay for that,

but I'd just like to think about something else,

because I feel so ashamed and guilty about it even if I deserve it.

Thank you to all the people trying to help me, thank you a lot..

firstly

it is NOT A FINE

and they have NO LEGAL STANDING whatsoever.

RLP letters come in unmarked envs anyway

DO NOT PAY THEM ANYTHING

it WILL NOT stop the letter.

your BEST course of action is to TOTALLY IGNORE THEM.

there is a very like thread from somewhile back

that details a very like 'case' to you

i'll see if I can find it later.

bottom line - IGNORE RLP.

dx

Hello dx100uk,

Thank you for your reply!

Alright, but then I have read somewhere that letters are not adressed to parents,

and that they won't know unless you don't pay etc.

.but is that possible when you are under 18 that your parents dont know about it?

Yes, I'd like a look at this case if you can find it!

And I get it, I don't have to pay rlp.

Thank you again

Hi Candidissou

Letters will be sent to the address that you gave the security guard. As DX they do like sending letters, quite a few, they are meant to scare you into paying. They are not fines, just speculative invoices without a breadown of costs, even if they have a breakdown, Primark's business model does take account of losses through theft. If you get letters, remove personal details and scan the letter.

Hi Candidissou

 

Letters will be sent to the address that you gave the security guard. As DX they do like sending letters, quite a few, they are meant to scare you into paying. They are not fines, just speculative invoices without a breadown of costs, even if they have a breakdown, Primark's business model does take account of losses through theft. If you get letters, remove personal details and scan the letter.

Hi rebel11

Thank you so much for replying!!

I got what you said.

I gave the security my parents adress, which is on my ID, considering that I am 16 I didn't have the choice.

So would you have any idea of something I could do so that my parents will not know?

Thank you again for answering, this is so nice of you.

Thank you dx100uk, but I just don't get how his parents didn't know considering that rlp sent letters to his adress which is also his parents adress?

If your parents live overseas, just contact them, tell them. You might have to be creative. They might send a letter, they might not.

Hi rebel11

Thank you so much for replying!!

I got what you said.

I gave the security my parents adress, which is on my ID, considering that I am 16 I didn't have the choice.

So would you have any idea of something I could do so that my parents will not know?

Thank you again for answering, this is so nice of you.

If your parents live overseas, just contact them, tell them. You might have to be creative. They might send a letter, they might not.

They'd kill me!

Alright.

And do you have any idea of why they asked us our email adresses?

Everyone makes mistakes, you made a mistake. Primark suffered no loss, the products were returned.

I'm not sure why they asked for your email. Maybe because everyone these days asks for email addresses.

They'd kill me!

Alright.

And do you have any idea of why they asked us our email adresses?

Everyone makes mistakes, you made a mistake. Primark suffered no loss, the products were returned.

I'm not sure why they asked for your email. Maybe because everyone these days asks for email addresses.

A big mistake.

Right, because with all of what I have read, no one ever had an email instead of a letter.

Thank you again rebel11, so nice of you helping!

Hi and welcome.

To add to the above advice and RLP contacting yours or his parents.

It may need ONE letter being sent to RLP with a couple of lines of text.

"Any liability to you or any company you claim to represent is denied."

" This is a personal matter and as such I deny you the right to contact any third party."

This should stop them writing to your parents. If they fail to adhere to your letter, you could then make a claim against them for harassment.

From 1 October this year, taking court action against a company that is misleading people or using aggressive tactics, is much simpler that before.

The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading regulations (CPUT)will be beefed up which may make RLP sit up and take notice.

Hello everyone,

I'm back on the forum since my last post on August:

''We are both 16. Even though, we bought some stuffs (3items) the security obviously got us.

I have the Algerian/dutch nationality so he used to be like 'if you can't talk to me in Arabic,than I will only let your boyfriend leave'.

we gave our ID,

gave the items that we have stolen,

they took a picture, and

then he asked us our email address

saying that if our parents aren't checking on it,

then we're lucky because they won't know about it.

No police were called, and as we were alone in England,

he let us leave without a 18 year old person.''

I just got the letter, and I wanted to know if some of you could help me with any advice?

I learnt that we musn't pay the fine, mine is of 180pounds.

May I post the letter on the forum for you to have more informations?

Thank you to all the amazing people always trying to help others with silly mistakes they've done..

Ps: Sorry for my english mistakes as well, i'm a french citizen but i'm trying to do my best though!

Hi.

Your case is slightly different to the usual RLP cases we get as you are under 18. Normally we would say ignore the rubbish but is has transpired recently that RLP will write to your parents as you are under 18 and IF you live at home with them. If you live alone, they will say they will wait until you are 18 before chasing you again.

If you live with your parents and you don't want them to know about this, you will need to send ONE letter denying any liability to them and also refusing them any rights in contacting any third party (your parents). After that, you can safely ignore any further letters

Is this an update on your original situation, ?

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?431219-Shoplifting-in-Primark./page2

If so, I will merge your threads

Hi silverfox1961, and first of all thank you for your quick reply.

Indeed, I live at home with my parents and they don't know any about this, i managed to get the letter before they did (LUCK!!)

you recommand that I send them a letter saying that I refuse that they contact my parents,

but then my boyfriend has a flat, so should I put his adress so that they send letters to this adress instead of mine

so that my parents don't know about it?

Because what I mean is if I only tell them not to send letters to my parents,

they will still send letters at my home,

which is actually as if they were sending it to my parents.

hello citizenB, yes it is an update on my original situation!

Righto, I will put both threads into one so people have the full history and don't have to keep asking you questions you have already answered

alright, thanks!

Hi.

 

Your case is slightly different to the usual RLP cases we get as you are under 18. Normally we would say ignore the rubbish but is has transpired recently that RLP will write to your parents as you are under 18 and IF you live at home with them. If you live alone, they will say they will wait until you are 18 before chasing you again.

 

If you live with your parents and you don't want them to know about this, you will need to send ONE letter denying any liability to them and also refusing them any rights in contacting any third party (your parents). After that, you can safely ignore any further letters

silverfox1961, and first of all thank you for your quick reply.

Indeed, I live at home with my parents and they don't know any about this, i managed to get the letter before they did (LUCK!!)

you recommand that I send them a letter saying that I refuse that they contact my parents, but then my boyfriend has a flat, so should I put his adress on the letter so that they send letters to this adress instead of mine,so that my parents don't know about it?

Because what I mean is if I only tell them not to send letters to my parents, they will still send letters at my home,which is actually as if they were sending it to my parents.

quite honestly I would not do anything.

you write saying do/not use this/that address

they'll use that against you as a embarrassment tool.

there is another long thread here that involved someone under 18

go read that

same forum as yours

dx