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    • Hmm yes I see your point about proof of postage but nonetheless... "A Notice to Keeper can be served by ordinary post and the Protection of Freedoms Act requires that the Notice, to be valid,  must be delivered either (Where a notice to driver (parking ticket) has been served) Not earlier than 28 days after, nor more than 56 days after, the service of that notice to driver; or (Where no notice to driver has been served (e.g ANPR is used)) Not later than 14 days after the vehicle was parked A notice sent by post is to be presumed, unless the contrary is proved, to have been delivered on the second working day after the day on which it is posted; and for this purpose “working day” means any day other than a Saturday, Sunday or a public holiday in England and Wales." My question there is really what might constitute proof? Since you say the issue of delivery is a common one I suppose that no satisfactory answer has been established or you would probably have told me.
    • I would stand your ground and go for the interest. Even if the interest is not awarded you will get the judgement and the worst that might happen is that you won't get your claim fee.  However, it is almost inevitable that you will get the interest.  It is correct that it is at the discretion of the judge but the discretion is almost always exercised in favour of the claimant in these cases.  I think you should stand your ground and don't give even the slightest penny away Another judgement against them on this issue would be very bad for them and they would be really stupid to risk it but if they did, it would cost them far more than the interest they are trying to save which they will most likely have to pay anyway
    • Yep, true to form, they are happy to just save a couple of quid... They invariably lose in court, so to them, that's a win. 😅
    • Your concern regarding the 14 days delivery is a common one. Not been on the forum that long, but I don't think the following thought has ever been challenged. My view is that they should have proof of when it was posted, not when they "issued", or printed it. Of course, they would never show any proof of postage, unless it went to court. Private parking companies are simply after money, and will just keep sending ever more threatening letters to intimidate you into paying up. It's not been mentioned yet, but DO NOT APPEAL! You could inadvertently give up useful legal protection and they will refuse any appeal, because they're just after the cash...  
    • The sign says "Parking conditions apply 24/7". Mind you, that's after a huge wall of text. The whole thing is massively confusing.  Goodness knows what you're meant to do if you spend only a fiver in Iceland or you stay a few minutes over the hour there.
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I've had a 'No Cold Callers' message on my door for the past year, and it's made no difference at all - they all just ignore it. Door-to-door sellers and charity collectors are actually told to ignore them (that's what they tell me).

 

Depending on my mood when I answer the door, I either just silently point at the message, or ask whether they can read. Most say they didn't see it, the rest say they saw it but ignored it.

 

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I've had a 'No Cold Callers' message on my door for the past year, and it's made no difference at all - they all just ignore it. Door-to-door sellers and charity collectors are actually told to ignore them (that's what they tell me).

 

Depending on my mood when I answer the door, I either just silently point at the message, or ask whether they can read. Most say they didn't see it, the rest say they saw it but ignored it.

 

Just sayin'.

 

Same here, I use to be polite but now I go and say cant you ******* read.

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Depending on my mood when I answer the door, I either just silently point at the message, or ask whether they can read.

 

Or as I have done in the past, ask for their ID badge. Once it is in your hand, inform them that you need to confirm their identity and close the door on them....... Eventually, they will knock again and ask for the ID badge back - At which point, you tell them that you have failed to confirm their identity and cut the badge up.

 

I am now on that company's black list and they have never returned :madgrin:

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Charity callers are a pain, ignoring clear 'No Cold Callers' signs every time. They tell me they are exempt, I tell them I've called the Police.

 

A double glazing guy was even seen climbing on someone's garden wall to rip off a 'no cold calling zone' sign the Neighbourhood Watch people had put up !

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Both of those are awful, Hillards. You despair, don't you?

 

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Yes, a lot and quite often ;-)

 

I also have 'no cold callers' signs up with the Police logo on, a rep from a well known double glazing company claimed he could not read. I go into Victor Meldrew mode and report 'em - although it does not seem to do a lot of good. I had one follow up visit from a PCSO after the same charity knocked on the door two weeks running.

 

I make a point of telling such callers that I have no way of knowing they are real, anyone can make ID cards and get cheap glossy leaflets (Vistaprint do samples for free!) and if they have not made an appointment then they are not welcome. :-)

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We used to get the gangs of 'ex-offenders' selling inferior cleaning products. They were hard to get rid of and turned up far too often.

 

Then one day I mentioned to one of them that I knew it wasn't his fault, but that this had been mentioned on the interweb and the local police were interested. I haven't seen them since. :)

 

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