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    I'm sure this has been covered elsewhere but having searched I can't find it, so if anyone can offer their thoughts I’d appreciate it!

    I sent a CCA letter to Nationwideicon Debt Recovery (regarding a small Littlewoods Debt) on July 28th. On August 5th I received a letter from Littlewoods as follows:

    With reference to your letter dated 28th July 2006, requesting a copy of the credit agreement.

    Under sections 77 and 78 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 we are required to provide a copy of the executed agreement (if any). On the assumption that you have signed the agreement supplied to you at the time of opening your account. We enclose a copy of our agreement, which complies, with the requirements of the Consumer Credit (Cancellation Notices and Copies of Documents) Regulations 1983.


    Attached was a Credit Agreement form on which my name and address had been added prior to printing. This agreement is NOT signed or dated.

    Apart from a few telephone callsicon (which I can deal with separately) I have heard nothing, until the other day.

    I received a ‘Notification of Instruction to Proceed’ from NDR, stating that unless payment is received in 7 days then they will register a default at a credit reference agency and court proceedings may be issued.

    Now, whilst I am not trying to get out of the debt I am trying to ‘stall’ it whilst I sort out other more pressing issues. Therefore I wish to send them a letter to stop them in their tracks.

    I’m of the understanding that until a signed agreement is produced then the debt is unenforceable and that this is a defence in court. I also believe that by failing to produce a signed credit agreement they have broken the CCA so what are my next steps? In short, who do I report them to?

    Thanks in advance . . . .

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    Information commisioner.


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    Default Re: Failure to comply with CCA - what next?

    Thanks Andrew, it appears that I can also complain to Trading Standards and the Office of Fair Trading.

    Just a question, as NDR are presumably acting on behalf of Littlewoods who do I complain about - NDR or Littlewoods?

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    Default Re: Failure to comply with CCA - what next?

    you need to cca the legal owner of debt

    if they dont comply follow up on the template letter

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    At the time of my original CCA I thought the debt had been sold to NDR, but their failure to supply a deed of assignment and the follow-up letter from Littlewoods suggest the debt is being dealt with by NDR on behalf of Littlewoods.

    Are you saying that I now have to CCA Littlewoods, even though I've CCAd NDR who are acting on their behalf? Surely, as actees for Littlewoods then the responsibility lies with NDR?

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    Default Re: Failure to comply with CCA - what next?

    can someone answer the above as this also applies to me


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    Default Re: Failure to comply with CCA - what next?

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    The Information Commissioner does not deal with defaults on Consumer Credit Act requests - only on Data Subject Access Requests. CCA defaults can be reported to Trading Standards.

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    If you believe that Littlewoods still own the Debt then you wwill bneed to CCA them as they are the legal owners.

    I would advise that whenever anyone cca's a DCAicon that they CCA both the DCA and the original Creditor this has the benefit of at least finding outwho owns what.

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    Default Re: Failure to comply with CCA - what next?

    My littlewoods debt was also with NDR, who also failed to supply a deed of assignment.

    It was then passed to ''Debt Managers Ltd'....


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    A lot depends upon if the debt collectorsicon actually BOUGHT the debt,or are just acting on the other parties behalf.If they have bought the debt,then your obligation to littlewoods has ended,the debt is now owned by the debt collector who DO NOT have a contract or credit agreement with you,and will NOT be able to provide one.


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    I doubt whether you'll get much response as this thread is over 4 years old.

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