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    • Hi I was being supplied my ovo after unknowingly being swapped from SSE.  My issues began when we had a smart meter fitted and our bills almost doubled overnight - we at the time assumed we were just paying not enough until then and just continued to pay the excess bills each. Month.    I would from time to time contact ovo and get faced with a call centre on South Africa of the most rude agents who would just hang up after hours of wait and I could not even get an acknowledgement of an issue with my meter.  At one point we were not in the property for like 4 months and the bills were coming just as high!  It was at this point I was sure something is not right and ovo only care to send bailiffs and started threatening us with a pay as you go meter despite me taking out a 3.5k loan to pay of my outstanding balance.  Around 1600 each on both gas and electricity.  This is where its gets really bad -  the very same day they sent me out a new bill saying the money paid already was only to cover up until the November previous and because its now Feb we owe another 1k.   By that August this had risen to over 3k and I still couldn't get anyone to even acknowledge a fault let alone fix it.    In despair I tried to swap suppliers and to my surprise octopus accepted us because even tho the debt is owed we are trying deal with.  During our time with them the bill was coming only on my wife's name as I was responsible for other bills and she this one - now that we owe them 3k they have magically started adding my name as well as my wife's to the same debt to apply double pressure and its showing on my experiwn report now with a question mark and 2700 showing in grey -  This was my wife's debt which we dispute we owe yet the have now sent me letter with both our names on from oriel and past due credit debt agencies - is this illegal and how can I get them to take my. Name of this and leave on wife's name as its so unfair they give us a both a defualt for wife's debt which we dispute anyway.    In the end about 3 weeks ago I wrote an email to their ceo and rishi sunak and low and behold for the first time in our history with ovo someone who spoke English contacted us and said she will look into our claim.    I explained to her that we feel our meter is faulty and despite me contacting them using WhatsApp email and phone I still have not got anyone to acknowledge a fault even. And that I dispute I Owe anything as my son was in hospital for 3 months and we stayed with him so house was empty and still. They were sending us super sized bills more than when we started at home.  She promised to investigate and a few days later replied that she is sorry for the poor customer service and offered us £50 compensation - however she also. Mentioned that she's attached statements for us confirming the payment for 3k I made was only up until Nov and in Feb despite me pay 3.5k nearly it's correct for them to bill. Me. Another £900 the very same day and she did not agree our meter was faulty and therfore the debt stands and she will not be calling it bcak from past due credit.  During my time with my new supplier post ovo, octopus I requested tehy check my. Meters because I felt they were faulty and over charging me and I got excellent response asking me for further details which I supplied and I got a. Response bcak within days to say my meter was indeed faulty and octopus have now remotely repaired it.   I then contacted the energy ombudsman and explained my situation how she at ovo tried to fob me off and demand I apy money we don't feel we owe due to faulty equipment we reported but ovo had to process or mechanism to deal with it or lodge complaint even without having to cc their ceo and our pm. And now I feel sick to think both husband and wife will get a 6  year default for debt which have a validity of a questionable nature.    I explained all this to the energy ombudsman and they accepted my case and I explained to them that my new supplier found my fault which ovo refueed to accept - I've uploaded the email from new supplier to ombudsman showing we had a fault.    My. Question is is there anything I can upload in defence of my case to ombudsman before they decide outcome ina few weeks    All advice greatly appreciated not only would I like advice on how to clear this debt but also how I can pursue ovo for compensation and deterrence for the future.  Thansk 
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If you couldn't get one on the phone you try everyone else and/or find a drop in session and queue up early in the morning like everybody else to get help. (although I appreciate some of these may no longer exist)

 

So what's this I phoned the CAB 14 times they hung up on me business? Who else have you tried?

 

Now my advice still stands and as I sad in my 1st post you have to stop everything else and do it now!

 

http://www.shelter.org.uk/ are well worth a punt now you are being made homeless.

 

Somebody on here might be able to help further but you are really going to have to give a lot of information on everything and it's also dependent on if the right person pops in and reads it.

 

You might also want to read around the board to see the advice others have been given and change the thread title to something that more reflects the issues you are now having.

 

If you can't figure out how to change the title (I'm not sure either) there's a little triangle bottom left of posts you can use to report/request a board guide/admin to do it for you.

 

I'm not interested in the title I want to not be homeless.

 

The cab near me never has enough staff so you can line up at the crack of dawn to be told go go home.

 

The other one you Ihave to do a telephone consult first then they make an appointment. 01512851081 the for yourself if you dont believe me.

 

Can't phone shelter it's 0845 number.

 

I have no were to store my belongings so I will have to pick up a bag and leave everything. I plan on mock g into the councils doorway.

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I'm not interested in the title I want to not be homeless.

 

The cab near me never has enough staff so you can line up at the crack of dawn to be told go go home.

 

The other one you Ihave to do a telephone consult first then they make an appointment. 01512851081 the for yourself if you dont believe me.

 

Can't phone shelter it's 0845 number.

 

I have no were to store my belongings so I will have to pick up a bag and leave everything. I plan on mock g into the councils doorway.

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Plus as I've repeatedly posted there's not just the CAB! Also Phils advice is very good too! You have to be like a rabid dog with these people up close and personal and you don't let go until you're ready!

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I had a an issue when I moved into my current flat.

 

I was lucky in that my dad said he would voer 3 months rent for the expected housing benefit delays, also in that I kept the same landlord as my previous address so I didnt have costs associated with moving such as a new security bond and I was able to use the months rent from last place as first month rent here. I did have to pay my dad back of course but it helped.

 

Now from what I remember I did the claim and got to about 2 months and nothing had happened, I then found out from shelter about the discretionary payments so a letter was sent recorded delivery asking for my legal entitlement of a discretionary payment. A week or so later I got the discretionary payments and then a week after that they processed the full claim, it seems the discretionary payment also pushed me up the list.

 

I cant remember what happened with the council tax but I dont remember having to make full payments whilst waiting for benefit, I think they put the tax on hold knowing I was on the benefit waiting list.

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Things have moved along today. Although the council are still contradicting themselves.

 

Yesterday they told my councillor they had recieved all the information they needed and the claim will be finalised in the morning(today) and to ignore the latest letter(whichbinstill havnt recieved).Then I get an email from someone else this morning saying they didn't have all the information they need. I told her then how come someone senior last night told Tim Beaumont you had it all. Then she's sayin oh actually the information has just now come in (smell a rat?). They are supposedly making payment " in the next few days".

 

But there also saying they need more payslips.

 

Someone senior from the council was supposed to call me today and hasn't. He's then told the councillor he called at 3pm. A blatent lie I've sent Tim a copy of my call register which clearly shows he didn't call. I was at home at 3pm an my signal was fine.

 

Pfffft

 

Still no payment from the job centre either.

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Now the job centre are lying. They've told my mp they need more information (why didn't they do that when I signed on? Probably because the advisor did nothing but ask me about my tattoos) they have said they tried to phone and an email was sent. Nether was done. Grrrrrrr

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Been on the phone to the job centre he says tey don't send out emails then why hae they told the mp try sent one? He ten said there's no reason why I shouldn't of been paid as will phone me back. Which they won't, they never do.

 

Then my landlords been on the phone askin were his rent is. I don't blame him for being impatient he's not been paid for 5 weeks.

 

I still have not recieved any payments. This is beyond a joke now.

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you have said you able to get down there.

 

So go down there again face to face.

Speak to a person who is able to sort out the claim (not hand in desk) even if it means you have to sit waiting all day.

Take all documents they likely to need which will be 3 months bank statements, all proof of income/benefit, tenancy agreement, proof of address, proof of ID.

Take a witness.

Ask for a signed letter when you leave confirming they ahave all they need, or if they say they still need some other document, ask them to specify exactly what it is on the letter and that the rest has been accepted as valid.

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I didnt say a receipt I said a letter.

 

I had issues earlier this year with housing benefit and they asked for repeated evidence, I did as I said to you I simply had to keep sending it in. Eventually it got resolved.

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Been paid but the cock ups continue.

 

Recieved a bunch of letters from the council. One says the claim is incomplete. Another says I have been overpaid by £1.50 and recovery action will be taken! Really? For £1.50? Then another saying I've been overpaid by 140. Ten another saying I am entitled to 0 because I am earning 400 a week! I have no idea were teu have got these figures from I work ten hours a week and claim jsa!!

 

Also recieved this email:

 

Thank you, for your recent email requesting your account balance.

I can confirm the following amount is outstanding in Total is now £780.66

We hold two Liability Order’s for a total of £469.49 from 2010 and we have set up a payment arrangement of £20 Per Week ( which you have defaulted on).

The £146.43 is arrears from 2011.

Your account for 2012 has been credited with £598.32 Council Tax Benefit leaving a balance of £311.17 for 2012.

Your new payment plan for 2012 is as follows 1st Instalment due on 17/08/2012 for £51.17 followed by 5 further instalments of £52.00 per month.

I have reset you arrangement to clear your arrears above (Please continue with your arrangement of £20 per week to start

1st September 2012 till futher notice.

If you require any further details regarding this account please contact Liverpool Direct on 0151 233 3008 or email the service at: [email protected]

 

I've told them I am on 60.80 a week were sonthey think I am getting that from?

 

Also had three letters from job centre each stating different amounts I should be paid. No money has been recieved. I called them and they said I am working 4 hours a week. Again I have no idea were they have got this from its ten hours and payslips are given in with each sign on. I was promised a call back which of course didn't happen.

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A few months ago I recieved a letter from tax credits saying because I had not filed the renewal forms I had been overpayed by £500. I wrote back to them saying I DID file the renewal form but then shortly afterwards I lost my job so wrote to them with a change of circumstances and to stop the payments. But, as per my contract I was entitled to my normal full wage for one month at 39 hours or week so technically I was still entitled to the tax credit payments. It took them around 6 weeks to stop the payments. I also asked for a breakdown of this alleged overpayment.

 

Today I've had a letter back saying "notice to pay... Overpayment period ending 06/04/2012...you may spread the payments over 12 months" how very kind of them. They've no given me a breakdown like I asked. The fact is I dispute the amount and I am currently only earning 60.80 per week so have no means to pay!!

 

WHat can i do to get a breakdown?!

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Had a letter from the council informing me I've been overpaid by £320. They've kindly given me 4 days to pay in full! So much for the one month to appeal!

 

I went self employed in June and claimed Nea. The no jobs centre made an "administration error" and the Nea payments were showing in my bank as jsa. I questioned this and said surely this will interfere with housing benefit payments, the council would see jsa on my statements and pay my full rent. And also make it look like benefit fraud ie claiming jsa and working. My mp got involved and the job centre assured them and me that this would not happen and they would inform the council. I informed the council myself and gave them the Nea letter. They also "put a note on the file". I have the receipt and emails.

 

I gave the council everything they asked for. My payments continued. I did not receive an award letter. I got a letter in September telling me " your claim is incomplete" and they again asked for everything I had already given them. I replied asking why they are asking for everything again?! There response was to send the same letter. I then gave them everything from June to present. It took three months to tell me the claim was incomplete?

 

I have just started university leaving me entitled to 0. I got my start date two weeks before starting. I informed the council of my start date and to cease payments. I also asked for what I have left to pay on my council tax and i will pay it. This was ignored. I again informed them through councilor to cease payments. They said "there's nothing we can do until we see your exemption certificate". These hadn't been released by the university yet. Even my councillor said they should have suspended the final payment until they had the info. But surprise surprise they didn't and I was paid. They have suspended before until they've been given the information...

 

Surely I'm not at fault here? Four months after going self employed and in only seeing an award letter today?

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so whats the problem?,theyve overpaid you?,just pay it back..

That may be incorrect advice because if they have made an official error, they cannot claim it back and there is legislation to back it up. See http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2006/213/contents/made section 100. We had similar happen to us and were able to show that we had supplied all the necessary and correct information. The demand was withdrawn.

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That may be incorrect advice because if they have made an official error, they cannot claim it back and there is legislation to back it up. See http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2006/213/contents/made section 100. We had similar happen to us and were able to show that we had supplied all the necessary and correct information. The demand was withdrawn.

 

Exactly, that's what I thought. Thanks for the link. My councillor is on it again for me!!

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Forgot to update this. My councillor Tim Beaumont was VERY helpful with this. Once I had provided all the evidence proving i did everything I was supposed to the council backed down claiming "system error for a small number of claimants" and wrote it off.

 

Huzzah!!

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Well, that's a result. It's quite difficult to get a council (as opposed to the DWP) to accept an "official error" argument, so well done and thanks for updating.

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I'm a actually volunteering within the tribunals helping with appeals and ESA claims. It was amazing how his attitude changed once informed of this and the fact that I'm a 2nd year law student!!!

 

I've also asked my councillor to ensure others who fell victim to this "system error"are not made to repay benefits.

 

I also only dealt with the chief executive, he kept trying to pass me on but I refused!

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Well done hacked-off. It can be done.

 

I remember years ago that my local council chased me for an overpayment as I hadn't supplied all the information they wanted for my 'daughters' college study. (the daughters in quotes will become clear) I supplied everything they wanted for my daughter yet they still said they had overpaid me. After going through the 3 stages of complaint, I went to the LGO and it is then that they realised the council had missed an apostrophe.

 

The letters should have said "daughter's" for me to send information. Result-overpayment cancelled, formal apology-£200 compensation.

 

Just goes to show how one simple mistake can cause untold stress

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There's still a minor issue with mine. I have in my council tax exemption certificate in September and signed off the end of June. So there's a period of two months were I'm libel for council tax, which I paid. But the council reckon i owe £400 on this years. Mmm something not right there. That's being dealt with separately by me and my councillor.

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