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    Default LTSB Case Stayed for Settlement

    Yesterday I had a "Standard Order for stay for settlement with consent of all the parties" from the court. The Judge has ordered a stay until 8th November to enable the parties to attempt settlement!

    I don't understand the terms of this order, perhaps someone could help me here?

    It says:

    On or before 22 November 2006, one of the following steps must be taken:

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    the claimant must notify the court that the whole of the claim has been settled;

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    the claimant or defendant must write to the court requesting an extension of the stay period, explaining the steps being taken towards settlement and identifying any mediator, expert or other person helping with the process. The letter should confirm the agreement of all the other parties.

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    all the parties must file an allocation questionaire at the court. Where a settlement of some of the isues in dispute has been reached, a list of issues should be attached to the completed questionaire. The list must be agreed with the other parties and must indicate that it has been agreed.
    Firstly, if the claim is stayed until 8th November then how come both parties have until 22nd November to file???


    OK, so what happens if SCM simply continue to refuse to talk to me, or as seems likely, no agreement on settlement can be reached? There is no option on the stay order for notification of failure to settle at all. The only option in that case appears to be to file an allocation questionaire; why? I've already filed my full claim particulars, I've already filed my schedule of charges and interesticon, I've already filed an allocation questionaire. I've copied the court in on all my correspondence with SCM that clearly shows that SCM have totally ignored my requests for their offer of settlement.

    So why are there further delays culminating in me having to fork out yet another £100 for yet another aqicon that's only going to say exactly the same things as the first AQ!!??

    What do I do now? Can anyone offer some guidance here please?

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    Default Re: LTSB Case Stayed for Settlement

    I had one as well for citi - have you replied cos i am getting letter together tomorrow.


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    Default Re: LTSB Case Stayed for Settlement

    I haven't replied yet, I will do on Monday.

    Is yours the same wording? If it is then hang fire and I'll share with you what we think the best reply plan is.

    I'm out for the rest of the day though, back about 8pm.

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    Default Re: LTSB Case Stayed for Settlement

    I have one also, word for word. My stay is up on the 24th. Action must be taken by 7 th Nov.

    I was going to send a modifed letter from the templates libraryicon :

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...oval-stay.html


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    Default Re: LTSB Case Stayed for Settlement

    Quote Originally Posted by Number6
    I haven't replied yet, I will do on Monday.

    Is yours the same wording? If it is then hang fire and I'll share with you what we think the best reply plan is.

    I'm out for the rest of the day though, back about 8pm.

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    Yes it is the same - I'll wait till later then. Thanks


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    Default Re: LTSB Case Stayed for Settlement

    Righto, back a bit later than I thought but there we are.... bad weather and poxy idiot bad drivers on the M5!

    Bankfodder thinks we should use these stays to gain a bit of one-upmanship over the banks and / or their solicitors.

    Have a look at the last post (by BankFodder) on my thread HERE

    Let me know if you have any questions and I'll see if I can put a good template letter together.

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    Default Re: LTSB Case Stayed for Settlement

    Ok - mine is for citi is stayed until 17 nov to enable partys to reach a settlement. Now I know citi will come back with the argument that their costs are higher than 12 and they have already offered difference of 25 and 12 - so anything you can put together would be good - I didn't know whether to approach citi or ask the court to lift the stay - butthis is Bristol where a couple of weeks ago at a hearing they put a stay on for 3 months - so the citi approach I suppose os the best.


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    Default Re: LTSB Case Stayed for Settlement

    Quote Originally Posted by Zedwoo
    I have one also, word for word. My stay is up on the 24th. Action must be taken by 7 th Nov.

    I was going to send a modifed letter from the templates libraryicon :

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...oval-stay.html
    Hiya

    Ref the removal of stay doc in the link

    can I ask if the amount of £3778.06 is Zed's and we have to edit that out for our own ?

    also is there a typoicon is the para Lloydsicon TSB Bank


    "this money was being used to find Free Bankingicon for its customers"

    Fund maybe ?


    just askin, rather send a doc that could be picked on and trown out ...



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    Default Re: LTSB Case Stayed for Settlement

    Ps in the temp doc it refers to a list of cases.. do you have to attach them to the doc ?

    sorry to ask .. newbie warning

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    Default Re: LTSB Case Stayed for Settlement

    Newbie here again Soz

    another typoicon from the stay doc..

    " The Claimant can supply a copy of this recording of the court wishes."

    do the temp doc's need a check over ?


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    Default Re: LTSB Case Stayed for Settlement

    [quote=cub533]Newbie here again Soz

    another typoicon from the stay doc..

    " The Claimant can supply a copy of this recording of the court wishes."

    do the temp doc's need a check over ?

    Well you have to make any amendments to your particular case and then I would have though it would be prudent ot proof read and spell check what you are sending as mistakes can happen and you need to be happy with what you are sending.


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    Default Re: LTSB Case Stayed for Settlement

    Totally agree, the average newbie could make the basic tweaks to suite his/her case, if this is a Read only template the owner should proof read it to remove any other typoicon that has crept in

    Then the document would be bullet proof.


    What of the other questions I raised, like the reference to "test cases attached"
    do we attach .. where are they.

    I just want to get it right first time really sorry.. panicing again

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    Default Re: LTSB Case Stayed for Settlement

    if you go in here ther are about 22 Lloydsicon cases...I think these are the ones referred to in the "stay removal" letter

    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/litigation/

    good luck

    1/6/06 request charges
    16/6/06 received charges
    18/6/06 first request for refund
    3/7/06 "No" letter from bank
    13/7/06 LBA
    7/08/06 handed claim to court
    10/8/06 court stamped as date of issue
    24/8/06 deemed to be served
    25/8/06 Sechiari filed acknowledgement of service
    6/9/06 defence served
    9/9/06 copy of defence and AQ received by me
    25/9/06 deadline for AQ submission
    25/9/06 call Sechiari confirm safe receipt of my AQ
    26/9/06 received copy AQ from Sechiari
    29/9/06 letter to SCM to say "you want 1 month to settle, so settle"
    18/10/06 after "strained communications"and how !
    verbal offer of full settlement with conditions
    communications rejecting conditions from me
    5/11/06 received letter offering settlement with conditions
    7/11/06 sent fax rejecting conditions etc
    14/11/06 unconditional settlement in bank and how !

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    Default Re: LTSB Case Stayed for Settlement

    Ok ..there are pages and pages of concluded cases, do you print of some case numbers and attach to your own removal letter ?


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    Default Re: LTSB Case Stayed for Settlement

    Lloydsicon TSB Bank Charge Claims Settled Before Court Hearing


    6QZ02246
    £3,709.00
    22/02/2006
    6QZ14997
    £5,661.81
    08/03/2006
    6QZ16711
    £535.00
    14/03/2006
    6QZ20434
    £3,025.00
    29/03/2006
    6TF02015
    £510.46
    30/03/2006
    6QZ13940
    £2,318.75
    03/04/2006
    6QZ25163
    £1,379.87
    19/04/2006
    6QZ25892
    £4,885.00
    03/05/2006
    6UB01903
    £3,778.00
    11/05/2006
    6QZ21371
    £1,122.50
    11/05/2006
    6QZ30807
    £3,749.62
    14/05/2006
    6QZ30806
    £2,601.83
    14/05/2006
    6QZ30781
    £4,356.34
    19/05/2006
    6LV21557
    £324.34
    15/07/2006
    6QZ43768
    £907.52
    08/08/2006
    6HG02754
    £3,440.48
    23/08/2006
    6QZ30832
    £4,072.99
    11/09/2006
    6HH01360
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    22/09/2006
    6QZ36557
    £1,916.52
    04/10/2006
    SA287/06
    £671.50
    09/10/2006
    6QZ35227
    £1,639.32
    09/10/2006


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    1/6/06 request charges
    16/6/06 received charges
    18/6/06 first request for refund
    3/7/06 "No" letter from bank
    13/7/06 LBA
    7/08/06 handed claim to court
    10/8/06 court stamped as date of issue
    24/8/06 deemed to be served
    25/8/06 Sechiari filed acknowledgement of service
    6/9/06 defence served
    9/9/06 copy of defence and AQ received by me
    25/9/06 deadline for AQ submission
    25/9/06 call Sechiari confirm safe receipt of my AQ
    26/9/06 received copy AQ from Sechiari
    29/9/06 letter to SCM to say "you want 1 month to settle, so settle"
    18/10/06 after "strained communications"and how !
    verbal offer of full settlement with conditions
    communications rejecting conditions from me
    5/11/06 received letter offering settlement with conditions
    7/11/06 sent fax rejecting conditions etc
    14/11/06 unconditional settlement in bank and how !

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    Default Re: LTSB Case Stayed for Settlement

    Quote Originally Posted by Number6
    Righto, back a bit later than I thought but there we are.... bad weather and poxy idiot bad drivers on the M5!

    Bankfodder thinks we should use these stays to gain a bit of one-upmanship over the banks and / or their solicitors.

    Have a look at the last post (by BankFodder) on my thread HERE

    Let me know if you have any questions and I'll see if I can put a good template letter together.

    Pete
    Sorry about the delay but bear with me if you can. I was out for much of yesterday and the rest of my time yesterday evening was spent on another pressing matter within CAGicon. So few hands and so much to do

    I'm out for much of today also but I'll do my level best to write a draft letter template later today for those cases stayed for settlement.

    Pete

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    Default Re: LTSB Case Stayed for Settlement

    As regards stays, I just received mine from the local court.

    The claim has been stayed till the 16th Nov 06, with the same conditions as put in previous posts, we have until the 30th Nov to put in paperwork to indicate if the matter has been settled.

    The part about filling in a aqicon, does this mean we have to re-submit and pay a second time.

    Also I have looked at BF advice, and agree, even though I started to attempt to get them to enter dialogue weeks ago, and nothing, I will be sending out a letter to SCM tommorrow, just got to draft it.

    At least we have complied with the courts order to sort it out without it going before the judge, this will look good for our case if they don't.

    I have seen somehwhere on a post about asking the courts to award Exemplary Damages for solicitors that breach the civil procedures rules, does anyone know or have any information on this.

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