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    Cool Me versus The Woolwich

    Hi ya all, 8-)

    I decided to join in the fun after reading through this forum a while back.
    Sorry its taken me soooo long to post about it on here, not had nearly enough time to do anything!
    What I have read has been extremely pleasing and reassuring. This is obviously a nervous journey for a newbie and as I have seen on other threads the support is amazing. Without the help of you guys I'm sure many on here would have bottled out and walked away with only a fraction of what they were owed.

    OK I'm gonna spell out what I've done so far, hopefully I've done it correctly, I'm happy to accept any criticism if you think its due though! I'll take it as advice not offence!

    Firstly I sent of my prelim early September with a schedule of charges, I have almost all of my statements so didnt need to send of for those! (I was missing 4 for the 6 year period and couldnt be asked to wait for those then find out I didnt incur any charges, to be honest its only recently I've been slacking and the statements I was missing are old ones.) The charges were approx £1500.

    I recieved the standard letters "sorry to hear you are unhappy" etc. and the letter saying its been passed on to Barclaysicon Head Office, I had 2 letters from, one said they hope to resolve this matter within 8 weeks!!!!

    I then got slack again (I was busy -honestly, family problems etc!).
    I had opened a new bank account and cancelled all my Direct debits with the Woolwich, my overdrafticon is for £1500 and that was maxed out all bar a few pounds. I thought rather than pay it back they can wait and when they settle it can clear the Overdraft. What I forgot about was the interest they charge on the overdraft, that soon took it over the £1500 limit and then they start charging me per day for being over my Overdraft limit.
    The way I see it though is that the whole of my overdraft is only overdrawn because they have taken money from my account unlawfully therefore they can go whistle for the interest and new fee's they are charging me as well!

    I then sent my lbaicon and added about the above (but worded more appropriately!), I sent to both Barclays and the Woolwich (Open Plan) just to make sure someone got it! I have since recieved a letter from Open Plan in Clacton saying they have contacted Barclays and they say my claim is still being investigated. I am today replying to Open Plan stating that my main concern at the moment was they are still charing my account whilst it is in dispute.

    The 14 days is up on Monday so I'll be doing the MoneyClaim thingy then! LOL

    Blimey I waffled on a bit then didn't I? Hopefully you'll get the jist of it.
    If you got this far - Thanks for reading

    Good luck everyone Steve

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    Default Re: Me versus The Woolwich

    just stick to your agenda timewise not theirs and you'll be fine.any problems just post and someone will help.


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    welcome and good luck steve you seem to have your situation under control !


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    Default Re: Me versus The Woolwich

    Had an offer which although was quite a nice amount it's not the full amount so have replied with a no thankyou! Just got to find the time to sit and do the claim as they are now over there 14 days.
    I'm in no rush though and i like the rate of interesticon

    Don't worry I won't leave it too long!


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    Default Re: Me versus The Woolwich

    Well done Steve31
    Am just ahead of you with The Woolwich as I am just about to file MCOL.
    Will keep an eye on your progress too!!
    Good Luck

    NatWest
    01-08-06 - Request for refund sent etc followed by all the other nonsense!!
    18-10-06 - Settled in full - DONATION to site made
    Woolwich
    01/08/06 - Prelim letter sent
    03/08/06 - Acknowledge letter received from Woolwich
    18/08/06 - 2nd letter from Woolwich
    21/08/06 - Acknowledge letter received from Barclays
    13/09/06 - Offer letter received
    19/09/06 - Confirmed I will settle at my amount sent
    06/10/06 - No reply so LBA sent
    02/11/06 - MCOL filed
    21/11/06 - Acknowledged rec
    05-12-06 - AQ rec & returned
    23-03-07 - Court date!!

    Capital One x2
    16/11/06 - S.A.R Rec
    Wifes Capital One x 2
    18/11/06 - S.A.R Rec

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    UPDATE!
    I slacked again...and couldn't afford the money for the MCOL till December! I filed MCOL and they had till end of Dec to acknowledge. Not heard a thing from them. MCOL showed claim issued. Have now asked for judgemant by default.

    Surely it cant be this easy??? Has anyone else won this way?
    Are you still around wewonitfivetimes? How did you get on?

    Oh and HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!


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    I thought i had won,put in for a judgement by default on boxing day got a letter 2 days later saying it had been transfered to my local court,must now fill in another form and give another £100.


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    Oh no! Not the kind of reply I was hoping for. (no offence! LOL)

    What is the £100 for? I've not seen anyone else having to pay more.
    Hope you can get it sorted quick though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by steve31 View Post
    Oh no! Not the kind of reply I was hoping for. (no offence! LOL)

    What is the £100 for? I've not seen anyone else having to pay more.
    Hope you can get it sorted quick though.
    Hi Steve
    Hope you are well and a happy new year!!
    Yep Im still here!!
    The £100 is for your Court Application Fee which you have to pay if your claim is over £1500.This happens once you get your Transfer of Proceedings through to your local court.
    (This comes after the Wooly file a defenceicon)
    You will get your £100 back when you win.
    I completed my Application Questionaire and returned it before the deadline and paid my £100.
    The Wooly get sent one too but I have phoned the court and they say that the Wooly have not returned their Allocation Questionaire.
    The deadline was just before Xmas so they are really late,even allowing for the Xmas break afterwards I cant see why they should be allowed any more time!!
    Apparently its up to the judge.
    Nothing more I can do except sit and wait and cross everything!!
    If they have defaulted, then I win surely!!

    Give me a shout if i can help in any way

    NatWest
    01-08-06 - Request for refund sent etc followed by all the other nonsense!!
    18-10-06 - Settled in full - DONATION to site made
    Woolwich
    01/08/06 - Prelim letter sent
    03/08/06 - Acknowledge letter received from Woolwich
    18/08/06 - 2nd letter from Woolwich
    21/08/06 - Acknowledge letter received from Barclays
    13/09/06 - Offer letter received
    19/09/06 - Confirmed I will settle at my amount sent
    06/10/06 - No reply so LBA sent
    02/11/06 - MCOL filed
    21/11/06 - Acknowledged rec
    05-12-06 - AQ rec & returned
    23-03-07 - Court date!!

    Capital One x2
    16/11/06 - S.A.R Rec
    Wifes Capital One x 2
    18/11/06 - S.A.R Rec

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    Cheers wewon

    Just checked on MCOL and suprise suprise Woolwich have acknowledged today 03/01/07, past the deadline!
    My judgement request still shows "requested 02/01/07", I guess its up to the judge who will probably transfer the case?
    Would be great if he said they gotta pay up though


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    Sure would !! ...for both of us ... but dont hold your breath!!
    Well we have come this far so a bit longer wont hurt!!

    Keep it going

    Cheers

    NatWest
    01-08-06 - Request for refund sent etc followed by all the other nonsense!!
    18-10-06 - Settled in full - DONATION to site made
    Woolwich
    01/08/06 - Prelim letter sent
    03/08/06 - Acknowledge letter received from Woolwich
    18/08/06 - 2nd letter from Woolwich
    21/08/06 - Acknowledge letter received from Barclays
    13/09/06 - Offer letter received
    19/09/06 - Confirmed I will settle at my amount sent
    06/10/06 - No reply so LBA sent
    02/11/06 - MCOL filed
    21/11/06 - Acknowledged rec
    05-12-06 - AQ rec & returned
    23-03-07 - Court date!!

    Capital One x2
    16/11/06 - S.A.R Rec
    Wifes Capital One x 2
    18/11/06 - S.A.R Rec

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    Default Re: Me versus The Woolwich

    As expected, judgement request rejected, guess I'll be getting some new forms to fill in soon, never mind..... just means even more money they going to lose!


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    Steve
    power for the course im afraid but as you will already be aware of if you have been following the other posts in the woolwich section they are renowned for taking ua all to the wire but dont despair we havent lost a case yet ! ( that im aware of) in the meaantime read up on the AQS other members have fiked keep you in front good luck you have it under control any probs just ask one of us will be there for you !

    if my advice has been of any help to you then please click the scales ! Thank you

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    Hi, I am just back from holidayicon and hoped to hear that I had won v Woolwich, however have received the counterclaim and have to pay the extra £100. Bit scary, what can I expect now?


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    Default Re: Me versus The Woolwich

    A counterclaim?..... from the Woolwich?

    Could you post more details, i.e the letter that stated so, thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouse boy View Post
    Hi, I am just back from holidayicon and hoped to hear that I had won v Woolwich, however have received the counterclaim and have to pay the extra £100. Bit scary, what can I expect now?
    Hi Scouse boy, Do you mean the Court Application Fee ??
    The £100 is for your Court Application Fee which you have to pay if your claim is over £1500.This happens once you get your Transfer of Proceedings through to your local court.
    (This comes after the Woolwich file a defenceicon)
    You will need to complete the Application Questionaire and return it before the courts deadline along with £100.
    When you win you will get this back!!

    Red or Blue mate??!!!

    NatWest
    01-08-06 - Request for refund sent etc followed by all the other nonsense!!
    18-10-06 - Settled in full - DONATION to site made
    Woolwich
    01/08/06 - Prelim letter sent
    03/08/06 - Acknowledge letter received from Woolwich
    18/08/06 - 2nd letter from Woolwich
    21/08/06 - Acknowledge letter received from Barclays
    13/09/06 - Offer letter received
    19/09/06 - Confirmed I will settle at my amount sent
    06/10/06 - No reply so LBA sent
    02/11/06 - MCOL filed
    21/11/06 - Acknowledged rec
    05-12-06 - AQ rec & returned
    23-03-07 - Court date!!

    Capital One x2
    16/11/06 - S.A.R Rec
    Wifes Capital One x 2
    18/11/06 - S.A.R Rec

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    Red all the way. I will reply in time and send the £100, just feeling a bit alone as most people seem to have settled by this stage


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    The defence mainly states the old cobblers that I agreed to their T&C's when I opened the account etc etc. However in point 1 they state that 'the Particulars of Claim does not provide details or particulars of the account in question' Are they going to get me on a technicality? I followed the step by step instructions pretty rigidly. Help!


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    Steve31 Can you just confirm what position you are in regarding your Woolwich account and being over your overdrafticon? have you reached an agreement regarding the £3 a day charge or are they still charging you?

    What did you say when you rang them up? Have they taken any other measures on your account? Sorry for so many Questions but I am in a similar position but havnt rung them yet

    www.bellyup4blues.com Just Go There !!!

    Woolwich Prelim Sent 5.12.2006 !!!
    S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) sent 22.12.2006 (yeah I know)
    16.1.2007 £1000 offer rejected
    LBA sent 31.1.2007
    N1 presented to Court 15.2.2007
    Won / Settled 2 days before court date
    £5200 plus int charges returned.

    All and Leics S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) sent 22.12.2006
    2nd S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) sent 15.1.2007
    Statements received
    Prelim sent 31.1.2007
    LBA Sent 15.2.2007
    Won £1500 on receiving court date..

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    Delboy....
    They are still charging me £3 a day. I am claiming it all back so not too bothered about it.
    I have NEVER phoned them, only written to them. I asked them to stop charging me whilst the account is in disputeicon.
    They never replied, instead I recieved a letter from Wescot saying they had been authorised to act on Woolwich's behalf to recover the money I owe them.
    I called Wescot and informed them that the account is in dispute and should not have been transferred to them. They said they would contact Woolwich and suspend any further action.
    I then recieved a FINAL WARNING before court action, again I phoned them and told them the account is in dispute and that I have even commenced legal proceeding against Woolwich, I've heard nothing more from either Wescot or the Woolwich.
    Woolwich have in my opinion been a disgrace and i really cant wait until this is all finished!



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