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    • Euro have got a lot wrong and have failed to comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4.  According to Section 13 after ECP have written to Arval they should then send a NTH to the Hirer  which they have done.This eliminates Arval from any further pursuit by ECP. When they wrote to your company they should have sent copies of everything that they asked Arval for. This is to prove that your company agree what happened on the day of the breach. If ECP then comply with the Act they are allowed to pursue the hirer. If they fail, to comply they cannot make the hirer pay. They can pursue until they are blue in the face but the Hirer is not lawfully required to pay them and if it went to Court ECP would lose. Your company could say who was driving but the only person that can be pursued is the Hirer, there does not appear to be an extension for a driver to be pursued. Even if there was, because ECP have failed miserably to comply with the Act  they still have no chance of winning in Court. Here are the relevant Hire sections from the Act below.
    • Thank-you FTMDave for your feedback. May I take this opportunity to say that after reading numerous threads to which you are a contributor, I have great admiration for you. You really do go above and beyond in your efforts to help other people. The time you put in to help, in particular with witness statements is incredible. I am also impressed by the way in which you will defer to others with more experience should there be a particular point that you are not 100% clear on and return with answers or advice that you have sought. I wish I had the ability to help others as you do. There is another forum expert that I must also thank for his time and patience answering my questions and allowing me to come to a “penny drops” moment on one particular issue. I believe he has helped me immensely to understand and to strengthen my own case. I shall not mention who it is here at the moment just in case he would rather I didn't but I greatly appreciate the time he took working through that issue with me. I spent 20+ years of working in an industry that rules and regulations had to be strictly adhered to, indeed, exams had to be taken in order that one had to become qualified in those rules and regulations in order to carry out the duties of the post. In a way, such things as PoFA 2012 are rules and regulations that are not completely alien to me. It has been very enjoyable for me to learn these regulations and the law surrounding them. I wish I had found this forum years ago. I admit that perhaps I had been too keen to express my opinions given that I am still in the learning process. After a suitable period in this industry I became Qualified to teach the rules and regulations and I always said to those I taught that there is no such thing as a stupid question. If opinions, theories and observations are put forward, discussion can take place and as long as the result is that the student is able to clearly see where they went wrong and got to that moment where the penny drops then that is a valuable learning experience. No matter how experienced one is, there is always something to learn and if I did not know the answer to a question, I would say, I don't know the answer to that question but I will go and find out what the answer is. In any posts I have made, I have stated, “unless I am wrong” or “as far as I can see” awaiting a response telling me what I got wrong, if it was wrong. If I am wrong I am only too happy to admit it and take it as a valuable learning experience. I take the point that perhaps I should not post on other peoples threads and I shall refrain from doing so going forward. 🤐 As alluded to, circumstances can change, FTMDave made the following point that it had been boasted that no Caggers, over two years, who had sent a PPC the wrong registration snotty letter, had even been taken to court, let alone lost a court hearing .... but now they have. I too used the word "seemed" because it is true, we haven't had all the details. After perusing this forum I believe certain advice changed here after the Beavis case, I could be wrong but that is what I seem to remember reading. Could it be that after winning the above case in question, a claimant could refer back to this case and claim that a defendant had not made use of the appeal process, therefore allowing the claimant to win? Again, in this instance only, I do not know what is to be gained by not making an appeal or concealing the identity of the driver, especially if it is later admitted that the defendant was the driver and was the one to input the incorrect VRN in error. So far no one has educated me as to the reason why. But, of course, when making an appeal, it should be worded carefully so that an error in the appeal process cannot be referred back to. I thought long and hard about whether or not to post here but I wanted to bring up this point for discussion. Yes, I admit I have limited knowledge, but does that mean I should have kept silent? After I posted that I moved away from this forum slightly to find other avenues to increase my knowledge. I bought a law book and am now following certain lawyers on Youtube in the hope of arming myself with enough ammunition to use in my own case. In one video titled “7 Reasons You Will LOSE Your Court Case (and how to avoid them)” by Black Belt Barrister I believe he makes my point by saying the following, and I quote: “If you ignore the complaint in the first instance and it does eventually end up in court then it's going to look bad that you didn't co-operate in the first place. The court is not going to look kindly on you simply ignoring the company and not, let's say, availing yourself of any kind of appeal opportunities, particularly if we are talking about parking charge notices and things like that.” This point makes me think that, it is not such a bizarre judgement in the end. Only in the case of having proof of payment and inputting an incorrect VRN .... could it be worthwhile making a carefully worded appeal in the first instance? .... If the appeal fails, depending on the reason, surely this could only help if it went to court? As always, any feedback gratefully received.
    • To which official body does one make a formal complaint about a LPA fixed charge receiver? Does one make a complaint first to the company employing the appointed individuals?    Or can one complain immediately to an official body, such as nara?    I've tried researching but there doesn't seem a very clear route on how to legally hold them to account for wrongful behaviour.  It seems frustratingly complicated because they are considered to be officers of the court and held in high esteem - and the borrower is deemed liable for their actions.  Yet what does the borrower do when disclosure shows clear evidence of wrong-doing? Does anyone have any pointers please?
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Yes do exactly as I have suggested if they fail to respond in 10 days +2 you then issue the county court claim immediately without further notice to them.

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Seems to be a limited company. I always thought that if you were a limited company that you need to display this fact like "XYZ Garage Ltd"?

 

Can't see limited on the garage anywhere and it's not registered at companies house.

 

Just need confirmation of the picture I posted in #24

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Once it becomes clear that CC is needed you can get a claim pack from your local County Court office., it has all the info and forms you need, there will also be a guide to the fees payable.

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Ltd. or not is a moot point the LBA covers ALL aspects, and should litigation the claim can be laid to suit, as to defendants status.

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Yes as you have all the information to hand, so it means I can't make mistakes or guess what's happened..

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What do i do if he tells me after receiving letter he wil charge me for my car being at his garage hes threatend me with that before

Tell him you will sue him in regard to that as well is the need arises, the car is there because of the garages incompetence and failure to complete specified works already paid for!

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So how much more does he want from you before he will allow you car out of the garage ??

 

Did he say you needed a 'new' gearbox and has he said he has fitted a 'new' gearbox ??

 

Can you click on the .jpg in post #24 and confirm that is the garage where the car is.

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You no your stuff dont you wish i come on here months ago seeking help instead of being walked all over by the garage

 

Comes from being old and grey and having been there, seen it and ripped the tee shirt:!:

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When i first took him the car he agreed 300 for everything parts and fitting he didnt provide me with receipts as weeks past then months i grew impatient rang him had a go he didnt like it said its costing him fuel money travelling every were getting gearbox and getting wrong ones i asked for my money back the 300 hes like you be lucky if you have 50 quid back because it cost him to strip it down he didnt mention none of this at start and it dosnt cost 300 to strip car and i certainly shouldnt have to pay for his petrol when its his fault when i.told him engine code gearbox code after all that he carried on messing around i popped in with my boss he agreed to have my car ready within 3 days if i paid him another 140 which i did that was start of december now hes playing games again i rang him monday he said stop ringin him all the time i.said its been 5 months my tax had gone i need my car he just keeps saying yeah be ready by end of week or waiting on parts doesnt keep me updated he just keeps making promises and sets dates that he doesnt have it ready for so there is still no sign og gearbox certainly doesnt take 5 months to fit a gearbox and clutch and to find the parts hes taking me for a ride he hasnt mentioned no more money just keeps lying abour when its going to be ready

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Yep! Send the letter.

 

I was just puzzled in why he said he might start to charge you storage ?

 

What do i do if he tells me after receiving letter he wil charge me for my car being at his garage hes threatend me with that before
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Yep! Send the letter.

 

I was just puzzled in why he said he might start to charge you storage ?

 

This does seem odd Coniff I agree!!!

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Im.going to send the letter and he said.that after first argument if i dont collect my car hes going to charge me daily fee back in.november we settled that dispute by him.saying he wants another140 to get the parts finish all the work off give me the receipts and that will be end of it that was back in.start of december so its been another month and bit ive run.out of patience now i asked about him threatening me with that just incase he says it again.after he receives this letter

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