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    Cool Big Fight With NAT WEST ***WON***

    :o Thought I'd share my story with you all, I feel as though its going extremely well.

    It all started back in August when I heard this bizzare idea that you could claim back all your bank charges for the last six years. So promptly coming to the CAGicon site I began to spend many hours reading through many story's and started thinking....hey this actually works.

    I was able to jump straight to the preliminary letter stage having kept all my bank statements for some strange reason, (now I know why).
    So after entering all my details into the spreadsheet this was sent to the bank along with letter claiming £2643 (not including interesticon).

    The action had begun!!!

    I was rather suprised to receive a phone callicon from my bank several days later acknowledging my letter and to notify me that someone would be writing to me in the next couple of days.
    Sure enough a couple of days later the letter arrived, basically telling me they will be looking into the matter.

    On the 13th day of their deadline I received another letter, this time offering me the sum of £418 as a good will gesture, with no explanation as to how they arrived at this figure. Well you can guess my response......thanks but no thanks.


    So on with the lbaicon, this was posted quickly and I bagan eagerly awaiting its response.

    Again they left it right to the deadline limit before they responded but this time stating that they were very sorry that I was unhappy with their offer of £228 (I think they might find that they offered me £418 first time), but having reviewed my file they would now like to offer £1520 in Full and finalicon settlement (again now explanation as to how they had arrived at this figure).
    This was tempting, but I thought what the hell I've come this far I might as well go all the way so my claim was filed and there was no backing out now (total claim now at £4151.83 including all interest and fees).

    My claim was acknowledged a couple of days later and I am now waiting for the next step, whatever that might be, 28 days to wait me thinks.

    Would appreciate any useful advice about what happens at this stage, and how far Nat West claims usually go. Having come this far I really don't want to mess it up now with one silly mistake.

    I've even brought the 'Small Claims Procedure' book in case it goes that far.......Hopefully it wont as I wouldn't have a clue what to say.

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    Hi Deller,
    Good luck with this, I've just reached the end of my 28 days and requested judgement by default as Cobbetts haven't put a defence in yet. Its most likely they will put a late one in and then we'll go to the aqicon, allocation questionnaire stage, its comforting to see the continued successes like Plutos, keep in there

    NatWest claim filed 7th Sept, acknowledged 13/9, filed judgement by default 12/10/06,defence and cpr18 rec'd 13/10, Cobbetts AQ rec'd 1/11/06, offered £2000 2/11, refusal sent 3/11, cheque recd 18/11 for £3854.54...WON
    Natwest 2nd account S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) sent 19/9,request for payment sent 2/11, £165
    Ace Cards & gifts S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) sent 19/9, statements received 27/9, request for refund of £259 sent 28/9
    ***WON Ace cheque received 18/11***

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    Default Re: Big Fight With NAT WEST

    So if you request judgement by default does this mean you automatically win the full settlement, or are the swines able to drag it out a bit longer?


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    Default Re: Big Fight With NAT WEST

    Quote Originally Posted by deller1
    So if you request judgement by default does this mean you automatically win the full settlement, or are the swines able to drag it out a bit longer?
    You should win the full amount, however they can apply for a set asideicon.






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    When I got home there was the letter from Cobbetts, with CPR18 and defence, this will further delay, but its standard practise. They put as many obstacles in your way as possible but it just delays the inevitable...victory

    NatWest claim filed 7th Sept, acknowledged 13/9, filed judgement by default 12/10/06,defence and cpr18 rec'd 13/10, Cobbetts AQ rec'd 1/11/06, offered £2000 2/11, refusal sent 3/11, cheque recd 18/11 for £3854.54...WON
    Natwest 2nd account S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) sent 19/9,request for payment sent 2/11, £165
    Ace Cards & gifts S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) sent 19/9, statements received 27/9, request for refund of £259 sent 28/9
    ***WON Ace cheque received 18/11***

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    The 28 day deadline is fast approaching so fingures crossed, a nice fat cheque in time for Xmas!!!

    I'll be ploughing through any obstacles they stick in my way!!!


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    Default Re: Big Fight With NAT WEST - HELP!!

    Just realised that I didn't include my account number on my claim form....will this be a problem even though Cobbetts have filed an acknowledgement of service.

    I do hope I hav'nt ballsed it up at this stage!!!


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    Any helpers please regarding my querie in previous thread??

    Getting ever so worried now that I've made a huge mistake.


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    Deller, I was hoping someone else would answer, cos I'm not sure, you could phone the court, I would think they could sort it out

    NatWest claim filed 7th Sept, acknowledged 13/9, filed judgement by default 12/10/06,defence and cpr18 rec'd 13/10, Cobbetts AQ rec'd 1/11/06, offered £2000 2/11, refusal sent 3/11, cheque recd 18/11 for £3854.54...WON
    Natwest 2nd account S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) sent 19/9,request for payment sent 2/11, £165
    Ace Cards & gifts S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) sent 19/9, statements received 27/9, request for refund of £259 sent 28/9
    ***WON Ace cheque received 18/11***

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    I've sent a message to jonni2bad, hopefully he can help, he seems to know all about this part of the claim.

    If I don't get any luck I'll have to contact the court like you say......thanks for that baldrick.


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    Exclamation URGENT HELP REQUIRED with MCOL Paticulars

    I have submitted my claim with MCOL and the claim has been acknowledged, but now having read through other forums I think I might have rushed in to it and filled it out wrong.
    In the box for particulars I wrote,

    "I am claiming back all bank charges paid on my account for the past six years as I now understand that the regime of fees which have been applied to my account in relation to direct debiticon refusals, exceeding overdrafticon limits and so forth are unlawful at Common Law, Statute and recent consumer regulations.
    The claimant claims interest under section 69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at the rate of 8% a year from 18th September 2000 to 1st October 2006 of £...."

    I was also unable to attach a copy of my schedule although this has been sent to the bank with the first two letters.

    As I said previously my claim has been acknowledged by Cobbetts and the 28 day deadline is fast approaching (4th Nov I think).

    WHAT SHOULD I DO?????


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    You might just be lucky, but we will know once you receive a defence from Natwesticon.

    If it draws attention to your particulars then we will have to make an amendmenticon - or withdraw and start again.

    You should make a further copy of the charges spreadsheet and send it to them asap.

    I'm afraid it really does highlight the need to be fully aware of the process you are getting into and amking sure you have read and understood the FAQs and the case management threads.

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    Default Re: Big Fight With NAT WEST

    When you say I should send another copy of the charges spreadsheet, where should I send it and which spreadsheet, The Charges and interesticon one, the 8% Interest one, or both??


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    Default Re: Big Fight With NAT WEST

    Not really sure why you would have 2... ???

    Your list of charges - if you used one of the spreadsheets from this site - will have O/D interesticon, if being claimed, plus the 8% interest automatically added.

    That's what you need to send - if explains to the bank what you are claiming for and for how much.

    Send it to the bank at the address you used in your claim.

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    I used the advanced Excel spreadsheet from the templates and it definately had two different pages, the first page showed the charges and the overdrafticon interest and the second page calculated the 8%. I was just wondering whether I should send both pages or just the one caculating the 8%?

    Also should I send some sort of cover letter with it and if so stating what?


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    I will gladly be donating to this site, everyone is so helpful.

    Where would we be without all these volunteers helping us all to beat our banks!!!



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    Just been reading through some other forums and noticed that some people are sending a copy of their schedule to Cobbetts, will this help avoid their delaying tactics and would it help my case seeing as though I don't seem to have filled my claims form in right?

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    Hi, I'm at the stage with Natwesticon where they've offered me a part settlement (again no explanation where this figure came from). I declined this offer and recently received a reply saying there is nothing more they can offer me and this is their final offer.
    Do I now send them an lbaicon?

    Help, I really want to take them on, but am a bit waqry it will end up costing me!!


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    It depends whether or not the 14 days have passed from the date you sent your first letter, if they have then on with your lbaicon.

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    Send both parts - if you are claiming something from the bank you need to show them all the information that relates to it.

    Unless you have been contacted by Cobbetts directly, you are still dealing with the bank. In which case, send it to them, marked clearly as being part of your Court claim number XX12345

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