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    • Hi, In my last post I mentioned I had received an email from SS who were asking me to hand over the keys to my mother’s flat so they could pass them to the Law firm who have been appointed court of protection to access, secure and insure my mother’s property.  Feeling this, all quickly getting out of my hands I emailed ss requesting proof of this. I HAVEN’T HEARD BACK FROM SS.  Yesterday, I received an email (with attached court of protection order) from the Law Firm confirming this was correct (please see below a copy of this).  After reading the court of protection order I do have some concerns about it:   (a)   I only found out yesterday, the Law firm had been appointed by the court back in January.  Up until now, I have not received any notification regarding this.  (b)   Section 2   - States I am estranged from my mother.  This is NOT CORRECT    The only reason I stepped back from my mother was to protect myself from the guy (groomer) who had befriended her & was very aggressive towards me & because of my mother’s dementia she had become aggressive also.  I constantly tried to warned SS about this guy's manipulative behaviour towards my mother and his increasing aggressiveness towards me (as mentioned in previous posts).  Each time I was ignored.  Instead, SS encouraged his involvement with my mother – including him in her care plans and mental health assessments.   I was literally pushed out because I feared him and my mother’s increasing aggression towards me. Up until I stepped back, I had always looked after my mother and since her admission to the care home, I visit regularly.   .(c)    Sections -  4, 5 and 7  I am struggling to understand these as I don’t have a legal background.  I was wondering if there is anyone who might be able to explain what they mean.  It’s been a horrendous situation where I had to walk away from my mother at her most vulnerable because of; ss (not helping), scammer and groomer. I have no legal background, nor experience in highly manipulative people or an understanding of how the SS system operates, finding myself isolated, scared and powerless to the point I haven’t collected my personal belongings and items for my mother’s room in the care home.  Sadly, the court has only had heard one version of this story SS’s, and based their decision on that. My mother’s situation and the experience I have gone through could happen to anyone who has a vulnerable parent.    If anyone any thoughts on this much appreciated.  Thank you. ______________________________________________________  (Below is the Court of Protection Order)  COURT OF PROTECTION                                                                                                                                                                                   No xxx  MENTAL CAPACITY ACT 2005 In the matter of Name xxx ORDER Made by  Depty District Judge At xxx Made on xxx Issued on 18 January 2024  WHEREAS  1.     xxx Solicitors, Address xxx  ("Applicant”) has applied for an order under the Mental Capacity Act 2005.  2.     The Court notes (my mother) is said to be estranged from all her three children and only one, (me) has been notified.  3.     (Me) was previously appointed as Atorney for Property and Affairs for (my mother).  The Exhibity NAJ at (date) refers to (me) and all replacement Attorneys are now officially standing down.  4.     Pursuant to Rule 9.10 of the Court of Protection Rules 2017 and Practice Direction 9B the Applicant 2must seek to identify at least three persons who are likely to have an interest in being notified that an application has been issues.”  The children of (my mother), and any other appointed attorneys are likely to have an interest in the application, because of the nature of relationship to (my mother).  5.     The Court considers that the notification requirements are an important safeguard for the person in respect of whom an order is sought.  6.     The Court notes that it is said that the local authority no longer has access to (my mother’s) Property.  7.     Further information is required for the Court to determine the application.  IT IS ORDERED THAT  Within 28 days of the issue date this order, the Applicant shall file a form COP24 witness statement confirming that the other children of (my mother) and any replacement attorneys have been notified of the application and shall confirm their name, address, and date upon which those persons were notified.  If the Applicant wishes the Court to dispense with any further notification, they should file a COP9 and COP24 explaining, what steps (if any) have been taken to attempt notification and why notification should be dispensed with.   Pending the determination of the application to appoint a deputy for (my mother), the Applicant is authorised to take such steps as are proportionate and necessary to access, secure and insure the house and property of (my mother).   This order was made without a hearing and without notice.  Any person affected by this order may apply within 21 days of the date on which the order was served to have the order set aside or varied pursuant to Rule 13.4 of the Court of Protection Rules 2017 (“the Rules”).  Such application must be made on Form COP9 and in accordance with Part 10 Rules.              
    • Unless I've got an incorrect copy of the relevant regulation: The PCN is only deemed to have arrived two days after dispatch "unless the contrary is proved" in which case date of delivery does matter (not just date of posting) and I would like clarification of the required standard of proof. It seems perhaps this hasn't been tested. Since post is now barcoded for the Post Office's own tracking purposes perhaps there is some way I can get that evidence from the Post Office...
    • I would say You should accept it - I HIGHLY doubt you will  be able to claim for letters at trial ans they’re offering you that, which is higher monetary value than interest.   Also they raise a good point, getting interest at anything above 4% is lucky these days, yes judges give it, but rarily above 4%   Also you might find depending on the judge  you don’t get some costs if you take it all the way over £7.40 when court woukdnt award letters costs and thus meaning their award would be less than evris offer which was made    Up to you though but the wait will be 3-4mo for a trial date at least
    • Hi Folks, Been 162 days! Just by way of update. Today I received a text from Opos Ltd so no doubt Capquest are renting the debt out to anybody who fancies a nibble. Safe to say I will not be responding.
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Hi,

Just registered on the forums after reading some threads similar to my situation.

I currently have multiple payday loans due to mainly stupidity on my part, as a 19 year old i admit the temptation of easy credit fooled me into this mess and I have been given a real wake up call and kick up the backside. Now i just want out of this mess by the quickest and cheapest way possible. I'm not looking for sympathy or to be told i am a stupid wee boy, i just want it paid off and finished with. I'll post up where i stand with all of the companies and if anyone could give advice as to what my next steps should be, or which companies to try to pay off first then this would be great.

 

Wonga- Agreed plan £16 per week, will be paid off by christmas, they have been great to deal with to be fair.

Quickquid- Owe £531, emailed them regarding setting up a plan but have had no response as yet.

Minicredit- Owe £168

Txtloan- Owe £234

Payday Express- Owe £207

PaydayUK- Owe £119

Speed-e-loans- Owe £190

Speedydosh- Owe £149

 

Any advice on who is likely to accept plans and who i am as well trying to pay off first?

 

Thanks in advance.

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UPDATE:

 

Agreed plans with Wonga (16 per week), Speedydosh (10 per week), Txtloan (50 a month)....

 

Quickquid are willing to agree to a plan, but only over four months at a rate i dont think i can afford, Payday UK emailed back saying that I had to default before I could set up a plan which i think is ridiculous and obviously just a way to hit me with all the charges. MiniCredit, Payday Express and Speed-e-loans still havent got back to me. As the loan amounts for the latter 3 arent as large as some of the others do you think i should just try to pay them off ASAP and just get by for a few weeks or will these people eventually give in?

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Did you get those agreements in writing along with specific amounts to be debited on certain dates? If not, then the agreements are worth nothing as the PDL's will take whatever they like, whenever they like and simply say you authorised it.

 

If you want to pay them off ASAP and suffer for a few weeks, then i have to ask the question, why did you come and post on here?

 

The basics of dealing with any debt is work out your finances and work out a budget. Only offer ANY creditor what you can realistically afford without putting yourself into hardship each week/month. For example, you could start repayments that leave you with no money for yourself. What would you do if an emergency happened such as something in your house breaking? Your car breaking down? A family emergency etc?

 

You need to take all that into account.

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I have the agreed arrangements in writing on emails and my accounts on their websites have been updated accordingly with how much they will take on which date. My wonga plan has been up and running for 3 payments and everything has went fine so far.

 

I think ill just keep emailing the ones who are ignoring me until i get some sort of response, could anyone with prior knowledge of how the companies in question operate tell me if i have a realistic chance of striking a deal? From what i have read on here Minicredit seem a nightmare to deal with but ive not seen so much about Speed-e or Payday express and im surprised that Payday UK are rejecting my first offer.

 

Thanks for the help :)

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They are obliged by regulation to agree a repayment plan with you. However, because nobody is reporting them to the regulatory body, they now have the attitude of they can say and do whatever they like without repercussion.

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Yes, they certainly give off that impression anyway, well the majority of them anyway. I have to admit i've been pleasantly surprised by how wonga have treated me, they get a lot of bad press but have been the most supportive and speedydosh replied within three minutes with standing order details. It just seems like there is a few companies who dont want to be fair.

 

Renegadeimp- Is it worthwhile to let my payday uk loan go into default in order to get the plan up and running? Or should they accept before i default? It's really annoying that on their sites they say if you run into problems that you should contact them right away yet when you do they just tell you to default, this is the email they sent me minus the personal details.

 

 

Dear ********,

 

Many thanks for your email.

 

We will need to try for payment as per your Loan Agreement terms and conditions on **/**/2012. If this payment fails then a member of our Repayment Team will contact you.

 

Payment is taken from the Debit Card provided and not by Direct Debit. Please check with your card issuer regarding any authorisation charges.

 

As we work with a Credit Reference Agency, we share your account information on a monthly basis, so when you repay your loan on time, this could also help to improve your credit rating. However if you do not repay on time this could have a negative impact on your credit rating.

 

If you have any further queries please do not hesitate to contact us on 0871 271 6111^ (Call charges apply – 10p per minute from BT landlines, mobiles and other providers may vary). Our office is open 9am - 8.30pm Monday to Friday and 10am - 4pm on Saturday.

 

Kind Regards,

 

*******

 

Customer Services

 

PaydayUK (T3L),

PO Box 255,

Bicester,

Oxfordshire,OX26 4ZY

Telephone : 0871 271 6111^

Fax: 0845 127 4365

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You can let them default if you like. Just be aware that a lot of PDL's will try and throw on charges for it. But almost all the penalty charges are not legally enforceable anyway.

 

They say that they need to try for repayment anyway, that is completely false. You need to write or email them and revoke any and all permission for them to touch your account. Then contact the bank and tell them not to authorise any transactions related to the PDL.

 

Also :

 

As we work with a Credit Reference Agency, we share your account information on a monthly basis, so when you repay your loan on time, this could also help to improve your credit rating. However if you do not repay on time this could have a negative impact on your credit rating.

 

PDL loans are short term, unregulated loans. They cannot increase your credit rating. However they can have a very negative impact. PDL's do not share info on a monthly basis. Especially for a PAYDAY LOAN. Which by definition is 7-31 days long. They can only put on a negative marker saying you have defaulted on the entire payment or a CCJ marker if they are successful in court.

 

Get that letter in a complaint to the OFT.

Any advice i give is my own and is based solely on personal experience. If in any doubt about a situation , please contact a certified legal representative or debt counsellor..

 

 

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I have two seperate accounts already, and ive got my employer to send my wages into the one that isnt linked to any PDL's, i just planned on moving money in when it was due so they could only get what was available, for example my first txtloan payment is tomorrow so ill move the exact amount into that account before i go to sleep tonight just incase they decide to try for more.

 

Ill get that letter to the OFT wrote up tonight :)

 

In regards to payday uk, i'm definitely going to take the fight to them and make it clear that they are not authorised to touch my account and see what kind of response i get then, thanks for all the help tonight renegadeimp, hopefully i'll have some good news tomorrow :)

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You are very welcome. Just remember that it takes a lot of patience and persistance to get them to listen.

Any advice i give is my own and is based solely on personal experience. If in any doubt about a situation , please contact a certified legal representative or debt counsellor..

 

 

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UPDATE

 

Now agreed a £10 per week payment plan with Payday UK and am in negotiations with Payday Express for the same, Minicredit and Speed-e-loans seem to be refusing to even reply though but i will be sure to keep plugging away at them.

 

I think the trick with payday uk is to just keep emailing them your plan, even when they email you back offering to defer payment for a month or to pay half, just be very persistent and eventually they will give in. I basically told them either they accepted what i was offering and they would get everything i owed or they risked getting nothing because there is no way i was going to be paying the default charges that they hit you with after the loan due date.

 

So anyway, i now have plans set with: Quickquid, Wonga, Speedydosh, Txtloan and Payday UK. Feel so much better being in control of whats coming out of my accounts on which days :)

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Congrats :) Just make sure you get reciepts or copies of statement of account after each payment, and you keep up to date with them. Just in case they try anything.

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I just emailed their collections ([email protected]) and they told me to talk to a live chat agent which i did and set up a four month plan, i then emailed collections again and asked them to send me a confirmation email of the plan with dates/ payments just in case they tried a fly one, i also saved the live chat log. They are only really willing to set up 4 month plans, which was affordable enough for me and all interest was frozen but i dont know what your situation is so dont know if this will be much use?

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Gooner

Speed-e-loans were ok, what email address did you use ?

Minicredit are total wind up merchants, masters of copy and paste.

 

I think it was techsupport@ one, do you have a better address? This would be appreciated as I've not heard anything back at all.

Thanks

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Speed-e-loans.com emails that ive found.

 

Administrative Contact:

Miller-Cheevers, Gary [email protected]

507

Centennial Park

Elstree, Herts WD6 3FG

GB

447590563377

 

Technical Contact:

Miller-Cheevers, Gary [email protected]

507

Centennial Park

Elstree, Herts WD6 3FG

GB

447590563377

 

 

Worth a shot i guess since he seems to be the boss.

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UPDATE

 

Ive managed to arrange a plan with Speed-e-loans as well at a tenner a week :D The GMC email address worked and he said 'his team would assist with the matter' and to be fair to him it was all set up by close of business the next day. My repayment plans are now as follows:

 

Wonga- £15 per week

Speedydosh- £10 per week

Speed-e-loans- £10 per week

Payday UK- £10 per week

Q.Q- £120 per month (only 3 to go)

Txtloan- £50 per month

 

Minicredit and Payday Express are still refusing to help me out though, if anyone knows how to crack them then that would be appreciated.

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The email probably worked because he didnt think anyone had the address :)

Any advice i give is my own and is based solely on personal experience. If in any doubt about a situation , please contact a certified legal representative or debt counsellor..

 

 

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Payday Express are an absolute nightmare to be honest. I am currently in a DMP which all of my other creditors are sticking to but Payday Express continue to call me at least 5 times a day and refuse to deal with the company arranging my DMP. I have also emailed them and written to them several times requesting that I do not wish to be contacted by phone and they still ignore me!

 

If you have any luck with them please let me know!!

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Send them the telephone harassment letter from the library on this site. If they continue to call, then report them to OFCOM.

Any advice i give is my own and is based solely on personal experience. If in any doubt about a situation , please contact a certified legal representative or debt counsellor..

 

 

If my advice helps you, click the star icon at the bottom of my post and feel free to say thanks

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Hi,

 

Wonga- Agreed plan £16 per week, will be paid off by christmas, they have been great to deal with to be fair.

Quickquid- Owe £531, emailed them regarding setting up a plan but have had no response as yet.

Minicredit- Owe £168

Txtloan- Owe £234

Payday Express- Owe £207

PaydayUK- Owe £119

Speed-e-loans- Owe £190

Speedydosh- Owe £149

 

Any advice on who is likely to accept plans and who i am as well trying to pay off first?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

UPDATE

 

Paydayuk, paydayexpress and Quickquid are all paid off.

 

Still on payment plans with Wonga, Speedy dosh, speed e loans txtloan and still trying to argue with minicredit, they just wont budge.

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