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    • Okay please go through the disclosure very carefully. I suggest that you use the technique broadly in line with the advice we give on preparing your court bundle. You want to know what is there – but also very importantly you want to know what is not there. For instance, the email that they said they sent you before responding to the SAR – did you see that? Is there any trace of of the phone call that you made to the woman who didn't know anything about SAR's? On what basis was the £50 sent to you? Was it unilateral or did they offer it and you accepted it on some condition? When did they send you this £50 cheque? Have you banked it? Also, I think that we need to start understanding what you have lost here. Have you lost any money – and if so how much? Send the SAR to your bank as advised above
    • In anticipation of lodging my court claim next Weds 1 May (14 days after advising P2G that was my deadline for them to settle my claim) I have completed my first draft POC as below: Claim Claim number: xxxxx Reference: P2G MAY 2024   Claimant xxxxx   Defendant Parcel2Go 1A Parklands Lostock Bolton BL6 4SD  Particulars of Claim The defendant has failed to arrange for the safe delivery of the claimant's parcel containing a 8 secondhand golf clubs (valued at £265) that was sent to a UK address using their delivery service (P2G Reference xxxxx). The defendant contracted Evri to deliver the parcel (Evri Reference xxxxx) and refuses to reimburse the claimant on the grounds that the claimant did not purchase their secondary insurance contract. The defendant seeks to exclude their liability in breach of section 57 Consumer Rights Act. The secondary insurance contract is in breach of section 72. The claimant seeks reimbursement of £265, plus P2G fees of £9.10, plus postage costs for two first class letters to P2G of £2.70, plus court fees, plus interest. The claimant claims interest under section 69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at the rate of 8% a year from xxxxx to xxxxxx on £276.80 and also interest at the same rate up to the date of judgment or earlier payment at a daily rate of £xxxx   Details of claim Amount claimed £276.80 I look forward to your thoughts and comments guys! As ever, many thanks - G59    
    • Hmm, that's strange how they got my email then.  I assume the below is ok to send to DCBL, Nicky?  Hello, I am writing regarding our ongoing dispute and the upcoming court claim reference xxxxxxxx. To ensure fairness and transparency in our communications leading up to the court hearing, I request that you use postal mail exclusively for all further correspondence related to this claim. Please refrain from sending any communication or documents via email. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. If you have any questions or need clarification, please feel free to contact me via postal mail at the address provided above. Yours sincerely, xxxx
    • In the SAR, I received the original application, lots of computer print outs, yearly statements from 2013 and the new emails regarding my complaint. They sent me a £50 cheque after I chased them for the SAR after the 30 days. They said they was waiting for me to respond to an email (which I never received) before sending the SAR
    • classic P2G. I'm sure dianne and Lesley will pop an email to you at some point.
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So ... I've had the same job for 20 years, I work from home and provide a service to a very well known company. I've always had a contract to provide that service, but in July last year the contract ran out and they haven't renewed it, I've just continued to provide the service. I have asked on numerous occasions about my contract renewal and keep being told they are 'dealing with it'.

 

Recently they requested an additional service - about a 40% increase on the work I do already - for about 15% extra money.

 

I don't need the extra money or hassle and I'd rather just stay doing what I've done for 20 years.

 

I've been told that if I refuse to do the additional service, they'll get someone else to do the whole lot, so I'll effectively lose the job I've had for 20 years.

 

Even though the contract on paper has expired, do I have any rights at all? Or am I deemed to be 'out of contract' so they can do what they like? I find it terrifying that I can just be 'terminated' at the drop of a hat, because I don't want to take on the extra load.

 

I'm self-employed so does that mean I have no rights whatsoever?

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If you are truly self-employed then you would have no rights against the employer if they dispensed with your services. This differs from a fixed term employment contract.

 

I can't see any alternative to pushing for the renewal of the contract unfortunately, which will naturally involve negotiation over it's terms. The only question would be over the precise nature of the contract and whether it implies any degree of 'employment' rather than contracting for the provision of a service.

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Wow ... that is even more horrible than I thought. I was hoping I must have accrued some rights along the way, after 20 years of successive contracts and clear proof that I have done the job week in and week out all that time.

 

So what that means is, any employer anywhere can just stop giving contracts out, continue to reap the benefits of the work provided, and just treat the person like dirt - knowing that there are no other jobs out there to go to.

 

Depressing and infuriating. :-x

 

Thanks so much for your help though.

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My contract forbade me from working for any other companies ... and though I am now out of contract, if I even dreamed of working for anyone else, the employer would terminate on the spot. And I wouldn't be able to hide it ... what I do is very public!!

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My contract forbade me from working for any other companies ... and though I am now out of contract, if I even dreamed of working for anyone else, the employer would terminate on the spot. And I wouldn't be able to hide it ... what I do is very public!!

 

Hello Lauzieloo.

 

That's an interesting slant on your employment status. I thought being self-employed meant you were free to offer your services, but others know far more than I do.

 

There's a section on the directgov website that tells you in principle if you're employed or self-employed which I don't have time to look at right now. I don't know if it's relevant to your circumstances, just a thought.

 

My best, HB

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Sorry, I should have clarified a point - I am free to do 'other sorts of work' for other companies - I just can't do the same sort of work as I do now for this company. It's kind of 'exclusive' to them. Ho hum.

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Hi L,

 

So you exclusively worked for the contractor as a contractee - interesting... So in all the time operating your business did you invoice any other company other than the one you allude to above ? As HB mentions the clarification of your employment status is the key to this.....

 

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I would say I haven't invoiced anyone else for about ... let's say 12 years? I did used to do the odd bit of work for other people but it just became too complicated.

 

Let's say I was a drummer in a band - the company won't let me drum for anyone else. But they will let me play the violin! Except I'm crap at that so I don't. However I am a really good 'drummer' so I stick at that, and they're the guys who employ me.

 

Also I have never been smart or organised enough to set up as a business, or limited company or whatever. I'm just me. And I have never taken a week off since I started. Which is to say - I can work, say two weeks in advance, supply the company with what they need, and then clear off to Spain or whatever. As long as they get the work, they don't care when I do it. So to all intents and purposes I have never missed a day.

 

And yet I have no rights??? :jaw:

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