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I believe ESA is normally paid every fortnight but today I was due my first payment of full esa after coming off the assesment rate. My assesment priod ended in the middle of last week so I seem to have go one weeks money for this week plue have a weeks money from last week does this mean I will get two weeks money next money? and go on from there as nomal?

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have you had your medical? if not you should continue on the assessment rate until you do.

if you have had the medical and the payments have stopped, you can assume you failed to get the 15 points, this happened to me.

 

contact your local DWP office and comence an appeal to get your money re-instated

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Yes I have had my medical and I have been placed in the support group. I get a letter saying I would be getting ESA support group from the 20th of April except I get paid on Mondays. I seem to have got paid one weeks ESA support group from today plus three days of last week (friday, saturday and sunday). This is fine however I thought that normally you got esa paid fortnightly? Do you know if this means I will get paid fortnightly from next week?

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Under most normal circumstances, ESA is paid fortnightly in arrears. Your payment date is determined by the last two digits of your NI number.

 

If the last two digits represent an even number your next payment will be due on the 30th April; if they're odd, it will be 6th May. Without knowing precisely what period is covered by the payment you received today, it's hard to say what you will receive on your next payment date.

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Under most normal circumstances, ESA is paid fortnightly in arrears. Your payment date is determined by the last two digits of your NI number.

 

If the last two digits represent an even number your next payment will be due on the 30th April; if they're odd, it will be 6th May. Without knowing precisely what period is covered by the payment you received today, it's hard to say what you will receive on your next payment date.

 

My national insurance number ends with odd digits which means I should get my next payment on the 6th of May.

 

I am a bit confused as I was expecting to get two weeks money today and what I actually got works out to about £70 less than that so if they don't pay me agan until the 6th of may then just pay me 2 weeks as normal then that would like missing out a big chunk of a weeks benefit money. I really hate to complain about it but money has been so tight that I really need every penny.

 

My claim letter does say something about the amounts on the page applying from the 24th of April which may have something to do with it even though the letter also says I will be paid ESA at the rate of £119.85 a week from the 20th of April.

 

At first when I checked my account I thought they had paid me one weeks money from today plus the three days from friday the 20th of April but what will happen with next weeks money if they are unlikely to pay me again until the 6th of May now?

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could the part payment be the arrears? and you will get the new level from xxxx

 

It could be and I did think that at first and thought they might start paying as normal from next week but if they start paying me two weeks from the 6th of may that means they will just skip a week altogether and I will lose that money as far as I can tell. I hate having to call the DWP up but I guess I might have to just to find out what is happening here.

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It could be and I did think that at first and thought they might start paying as normal from next week but if they start paying me two weeks from the 6th of may that means they will just skip a week altogether and I will lose that money as far as I can tell. I hate having to call the DWP up but I guess I might have to just to find out what is happening here.

 

You shouldn't lose any money as long as you have sick notes to cover you until the day you were placed in the Support Group. It would be worth calling them to find out what today's payment was.

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have they just paid you then, a week at the old rate remember it has gone up due to the annual increase, and three days, and then not paid you anything for the 20th to the 23rd, things like this happen... especially if you have had a change... if the amount you have received is about £104 then I would say this is whats happened

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You shouldn't lose any money as long as you have sick notes to cover you until the day you were placed in the Support Group. It would be worth calling them to find out what today's payment was.

 

I have a sick not that covers me until July I think, well beyond the assesment period in any case. I will give them a call tomorrow then, something to look forward to :)

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have they just paid you then, a week at the old rate remember it has gone up due to the annual increase, and three days, and then not paid you anything for the 20th to the 23rd, things like this happen... especially if you have had a change... if the amount you have received is about £104 then I would say this is whats happened

 

Yeah I just got paid today. I wasn't worried about getting paid for the 20th to the 23rd really but that just weemed to make the most sense really figures wise. I seem to have got paid about £169 which makes no sense as it isn't the old rate or the new rate it only makes sense as the new rate and three days. but then next week is missing. I guess I just have to bite the bullet and phone them.

 

When did the rates actually change over for ESA? My letter says rate stated should be paid from the start of my payments but perhaps they are only from the end of april.

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save you a phone call the money you have had today is spot on

broken down roughly

10 to 16 april £71

17 to 19 £30

new rate 20 to 23 at your new assement rate 4 days £68. you said you were going to be getting £120 so total paid £169

figures not rounded up or down lol

 

next payment due friday 4th as its bank holiday £240 due then

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I seem to remember that benefits are paid in arrears; not advance.

 

save you a phone call the money you have had today is spot on

broken down roughly

10 to 16 april £71

17 to 19 £30

new rate 20 to 23 at your new assement rate 4 days £68. you said you were going to be getting £120 so total paid £169

figures not rounded up or down lol

 

next payment due friday 4th as its bank holiday £240 due then

 

Ok that seems to solve the mystery then I was thinking that I was getting paid in advance but I am getting paid in arrears? That solves it thanks so much everyone!

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