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    • Hi I received a Parking Charge letter to keeper on Monday 15/04/24, the 17th day after the alleged incident. My understanding is that this is outside the window for notifying. The issue date was 08/04/2024 which should have been in good time for it to have arrived within the notice period but in fact it actually arrived at lunchtime on the 15th. Do I have to prove when it arrived  (and if so how can I do that?) or is the onus on them to prove it was delivered in time? All I can find is that delivery is assumed to be on the second working day after issue which would have been Weds 10//04/24 but it was actually delivered 5 days later than that (thank you Royal Mail!). My husband was present when it arrived - is a family member witness considered sufficient proof? 1 Date of the infringement  arr 28/03/24 21:00, dep 29/03/24 01.27 2 Date on the NTK  08/04/2024 (Date of Issue) 3 Date received Monday 15/04/24 4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012?  Yes 5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes 6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] No    Have you had a response?  n/a 7 Who is the parking company? GroupNexus 8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Petrol Station Roadchef Tibshelf South DE55 5T 'operating in accordance with the BPA's Code of Practice'  
    • lookinforinfo - many thanks for your reply. It would be very interesting to get the letter of discontinuance. The court receptionist said that the county court was in Gloucester 'today' so that makes me think that some days it is in Gloucester and some days its in Cheltenham, it was maybe changed by the courts and i was never informed, who knows if DCBL were or not. My costs were a gallon of petrol and £3.40 for parking. I certainly don't want to end up in court again that's for sure but never say never lol. Its utterly disgusting the way these crooks can legally treat motorists but that's the uk for you. I'm originally from Scotland so it's good that they are not enforceable there but they certainly still try to get money out of you. I have to admit i have lost count of the pcn's i have received in the last 2 yr and 4 months since coming to England for work, most of them stop bothering you on their own eventually, it was just this one that they took it all the way. Like i mentioned in my WS the the likes of Aldi and other companies can get them cancelled but Mcdonalds refused to help me despite me being a very good customer.   brassednecked - many thanks   honeybee - many thanks   nicky boy - many thanks    
    • Huh? This is nothing about paying just for what I use - I currently prefer the averaged monthly payment - else i wouldn't be in credit month after month - which I am comfortable with - else I wold simply request a part refund - which I  would have done if they hadn't reduced my monthly dd after the complaint I raised (handled slowly and rather badly) highlighted the errors in their systems (one of which they do seem to have fixed) Are you not aware DD is always potentially variable? ah well, look it up - but my deal is a supposed to average the payments over a year, and i dont expect them to change payments (up or down) without my informed agreement ESPECIALLY when I'm in credit over winter.   You are happy with your smart meter - jolly for you I dont want one, dont have to have one  - so wont   I have a box that tells me my electricity usage - was free donkeys years ago and shows me everything I need to know just like a smart meter but doesnt need a smart meter,  and i can manually set my charges - so as a side effect - would show me if the charges from the supplier were mismatched. Doesn't tell me if the meters actually calibrated correctly - but neither does your smart meter. That all relies on a label and the competence of the testers - and the competence of any remote fiddling with the settings. You seem happy with that - thats fine. I'm not.    
    • Evening all,   So today, I was sent an updated offer that includes the £12.60 I spent on letters, but they have declined to add the interest at £7.40. They have stating 'We acknowledge your request to claim interest to date, however, this would be at the discretion of a trial judge if the claim did proceed to a trial hearing.' I think I am content with this outcome, and pushing this to a trial for a total interest of £15.30 throughout the claim does not make sense to me.   What are people's thoughts? I am sure our courts have better things to concentrate on?
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I received a text saying I was incurring charges outside of my agreed account, and to contact them immediately so I did and was told my bill was due on 11 and hadn't been paid and had spent so much on calls this month.

I apologised and said I had set up a direct debit for the bill but was told it was not reset up on there side. I told them I would pay Tuesday but with her very rude attitude said we restricting your services I asked when she said NOW I requested she didn't as I was unawear the bill hadn't been taken and that I had 4 kids and husband who works nights and this is my only contact with him and I had been for a job interview and was told to contact them on Monday. She really didn't care and now I can't do anything on the phone.

 

My last bill was for around £65 including monthly fee.

I have a voicemail of the people I went for the job with but can not listen to it or get in contact with them im so upset by this and how it was handled by customer services.

 

Oh and because orange restricted me I can't contact them on phone no more!!

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I cant wait to leave orange they are useless try 0800 0790440 from a land line meant for new customers has worked for me

 

when they have restricted my phone 150 is barred too, not sure how they expect you to phone them

If i have helped in any way hit my star.

any advice given is based on experience and learnt from this site :-)

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I'm so annoyed nothing to say gonna restrict or account due till i rang them got no contact with any one now all by internet.

 

The phone is even due to be replaced with them as it broke since day 1 of having it and still nothing

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Just rang and asked and got a very strict no sorry we want money now!! I ended up loading my temper because if I got offered the job it was on my voicemail and i can't retrive it! So i told them i would sue them for it and just got so!! Grrrr

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Find them on twitter, complain there.

 

Read the "orange complaints code of practice" HERE and follow that. Try to push for a DEADLOCK letter.

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Just took me 15 mins to speak to a service leader, when asked for a manager got told none working today.

 

Then asked why they can't give me till Tuesday to pay and they say sorry you should have money available to sort out usage and just asked to take it further and got no we want do anything sorry so you followed the complaints code we want do anything.

 

What is a deadlock letter I've had enough now

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Read section 3 of the orange "complaints code of practice" that I posted above

If in doubt, contact a qualified insured legal professional (or my wife... she knows EVERYTHING)

 

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Foreign based Call Centres CANNOT offer good Customer Service: Difficult to understand - they did not understand me either. Take ages repeating and repeating the same old stuff, and when they reflect back what they think I said or need, get it wrong every time. Complete waste of effort and time - so frustrating! Have closed account as a result and would NEVER use them again.:-x

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Orange is owned by a French firm called France Telecom. Their CEO is called Stephane Richard. While you poor customers are having to put up with this kind of treatment, he has a personal fortune of £30 million. He's an entrepreneur, a "creator of wealth". Where would we be without people like him?

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