Hello,

i am worried about court because I have received a letter from RLP saying that if they take me to court it will cost loads more.

I have been to see a solicitor and he said to pay because if I keep denying it and they have proof and take me to court I will have to pay their court costs which can be in the thousands.

I'm really reluctant to pay though because they sent my grandmother a letter and it was only when I showed them a copy of her passport

to show that she is 67 years old that they said they would suspend the case but that if she did it again they would reopen the case!

I know I did wrong but all she did was point to the items and it was me who took them.

I took full responsibility and they still wrote to her.

I hate them and they disgust me.

If I thought they would take me to court then I would pay because I can’t afford to pay thousands.

My solicitor has said that the claim has been issued.

Not sure what this means,

but really would like to find out if they will actually take me to court.

Hi jonny

Welcome to CAG

You've got your own thread. What documents have you received? and from whom?

To date RLP haven't taken anyone to court, they do like to send out letter's which are speculative invoices.

I'm not sure what you mean by the following:- 'My solicitor has said that the claim has been issued.'

Agree with Rebel - you say that the solicitor said that "....they will take you to court" then that the solicitor said that "...the claim has been issued". Which is true?

He said that I have to give my defence by next week. He said that I can say that because I'm on benefits, I can't afford to pay, and that I need my car to take my grandmother to and from her hospital appointments. I haven't got any documents, but I don't know what documents my solicitor has.

This doesnt make sense.

Have you received a claim form from the Court ?. or have you only received a letter from RLP ?

Many of us here would be very surprsied if you have actually received a court claim, for us to help you we will need more info, a scan of letters/court docs (with names & address redacted) would help.,

Benfits and cars/granmdmothers are irrelevant at this stage, lets deal with the facts.

Why do you not know what doc your solicitor has ?, surely the only docs he has are ones youve given them !?

Andy

Some of RLP's standard letters ask for a defence to be submitted to them, even though no claim has been issued.

Hi jonny

I wonder if your solicitor is trying to pull a fast one. Is he trying to extract fees from you by making you think that a court claim has been instigated.

Some of RLP's standard letters ask for a defence to be submitted to them, even though no claim has been issued.

Aha...which of course has no legal basis.

Hello, I too am worried about court because I have received a letter from RLP saying that if they take me to court it will cost loads more. I have been to see a solicitor and he said to pay because if I keep denying it and they have proof and take me to court I will have to pay their court costs which can be in the thousands. I'm really reluctant to pay though because they sent my grandmother a letter and it was only when I showed them a copy of her passport to show that she is 67 years old that they said they would suspend the case but that if she did it again they would reopen the case! I know I did wrong but all she did was point to the items and it was me who took them. I took full responsibility and they still wrote to her. I hate them and they disgust me. If I thought they would take me to court then I would pay because I can’t afford to pay thousands. My solicitor has said that the claim has been issued. Not sure what this means, but really would like to find out if they will actually take me to court.

RLP won't take you to court - they haven't suffered any losses.

You haven't really said what happened, but if you were stopped and any goods taken were recovered then it's difficult to see what the store's losses were. In general, you would not be responsible for paying any of the store's security costs

How much are RLP asking for? Most amounts they claim would be covered by the small claims court where costs cannot be claimed.

Any claim should have been sent direct, so you should know what is happening.

You will have to provide more detail of what has happened.

Thank you for all your comments.

I called my solicitor and told him what you have all said.

He said that the claim is not against RLP but against TK Maxx and that if I want to deny liability

then there is a chance that the case will go to the fast track instead of the small claims court where I will have to pay TK Maxx costs if I lose.

He said that once he has submitted my defence the court will give him a date for the hearing when we find out which court it is in.

I asked him why I didn't get the forms and he said because he is my solicitor and that everything has to go to him.

He also said that he is acting pro bono so I won't have to pay any solicitor costs but that the amount would be higher.

I know he's (the solicitor) not trying to [problem] me because he's a friend of a friend.

He said that they have offered to close the case if I pay £100.00 and he thinks I should pay because otherwise it will be more.

He is going to send me a copy of the claim.

Really don't know what to do...

Hi jonny

When you receive the documents from the solicitor, can you post the details of the claim.

Hi, 2 grumpy, I think your information about going to court is out of date. I've also received court papers about a shoplifting in TK Maxx and the amount they are now claiming is the original £137.50 plus £80 court fees and £35 solicitor fees, so the bill is now £252.50. I looked on RLP's website and they show the cases they have taken to court recently. I don't know what to do now because one person has to pay £1900.00. I wish i'd paid the £137.50 now. I don't know what to do either

Hello there.

Would you be able to post up what the court papers say, minus personal details please?

And is it definitely an original court document and not a photocopy?

My best, HB

Seems to be some confusion here, No-one has ever actually seen a legitimate court claim from RLP, so would be very useful if the above posters would scan and post up the claim forms.

It is worth noting that claims under £5000 are allocated to the small track (where costs are limited to smallish fixed costs), as far as I'm aware denying libailty doesnt mean the case will go on the fast track, in fact, I'd strongly argue that it shouldnt, after all, the small track is 'designed' for low cost claims such as this.

No-one has any idea whether any of the court claims on the RLP are indeed true , there is no way of check county court claims, so they may all be fabricated.

Jonny..You still seem a bit confused as to what exactly your solicitor is doing, you really should be kept inthe loop and see all the forms, all he is doing at this stage is just the basic form filling that really anyone can do, its not that difficult.

Andy

yes come-on

POST THE COURT PApers

urm.......thats two people saying they have them BUT NO PROOF YET..

here's the link to post up your PROOF

of court papers. or claim forms...

scan the required letters/agreements/sheets

as a picture[jpg] file

remove all pers info inc barcodes etc using paint program

but leave all figures and dates.

goto one of the many free online pdf converter websites

it would be better to upload a multipage pdf

than many single ones

or if you have PDF as an installed printer drive use that

or use word and save as pdf

open a new msg box here

hit go advanced below the msg box

hit manage attachments below that box

hit the add files button on the top right

hit select files, navigate to your file on your pc

hit upload files

NB:you can set where it goes in the post by hitting insert inline.

then hit reply button

dx

Hi, 2 grumpy,

I think your information about going to court is out of date.

I've also received court papers about a shoplifting in TK Maxx and the amount they are now claiming is the original £137.50 plus £80 court fees and £35 solicitor fees, so the bill is now £252.50.

 

I looked on RLP's website and they show the cases they have taken to court recently.

 

I don't know what to do now because one person has to pay £1900.00.

 

I wish i'd paid the £137.50 now.

 

I don't know what to do either

they HAVEN'T taken anyone to court

those reports are NOT TKmaxx

dx

Anyone getting court papers for a claim initiated by RLP should definately contest the entire amount.

If the store is doing it, then you should also contest the entire amount, but make a cpr request to get all of the information and details and a breakdown of the amounts claimed.

Although I dont know anyone who has actually seen a valid court claim "!

Hi, 2 grumpy, I think your information about going to court is out of date. I've also received court papers about a shoplifting in TK Maxx and the amount they are now claiming is the original £137.50 plus £80 court fees and £35 solicitor fees, so the bill is now £252.50. I looked on RLP's website and they show the cases they have taken to court recently. I don't know what to do now because one person has to pay £1900.00. I wish i'd paid the £137.50 now. I don't know what to do either

1. The cases RLP took to court - and there are very, very few of them - all relate to employee theft.

2. Post up the court papers so we can see them.

Thank you for all your comments.

I called my solicitor and told him what you have all said.

 

He said that the claim is not against RLP but against TK Maxx and that if I want to deny liability

then there is a chance that the case will go to the fast track instead of the small claims court where I will have to pay TK Maxx costs if I lose.

 

He said that once he has submitted my defence the court will give him a date for the hearing when we find out which court it is in.

 

I asked him why I didn't get the forms and he said because he is my solicitor and that everything has to go to him.

 

He also said that he is acting pro bono so I won't have to pay any solicitor costs but that the amount would be higher.

I know he's (the solicitor) not trying to [problem] me because he's a friend of a friend.

 

He said that they have offered to close the case if I pay £100.00 and he thinks I should pay because otherwise it will be more.

 

He is going to send me a copy of the claim.

 

Really don't know what to do...

£100 is not going to be fast-tracked.

Without you scanning a copy of the court claim we can't really help much more

n.b. what type of work does your solicitor normally work in?

If you could scan the Court Papers so we can advise further:wink:

My solicitor told me he sent me the papers on Fri, so they should be here by tomorrow at the latest.

I asked him about what you have all said and he said that TK Maxx have already applied to the court for damages and that I need to make a decision about the case this week.

I don't appreciate the slurs against my solicitor.

He is a genuine bloke and helping me as a friend.

He also said that the cases shown online on RLP's website are public record and hardly likely to be made up.

I'll post the claim forms when I get them but I think I'm just going to pay.

My solicitor told me he sent me the papers on Fri, so they should be here by tomorrow at the latest. I asked him about what you have all said and he said that TK Maxx have already applied to the court for damages and that I need to make a decision about the case this week. I don't appreciate the slurs against my solicitor. He is a genuine bloke and helping me as a friend. He also said that the cases shown online on RLP's website are public record and hardly likely to be made up. I'll post the claim forms when I get them but I think I'm just going to pay.

Hello again.

You asked the guys here for their opinions and they've told you. Depending on what the claim forms say, hopefully they will have more advice for you and then you may have to decide between the advice here and your lawyer friend.

I'm happy to be proved wrong, but I don't remember anyone from this forum who received the same advice as the guys gave you ending up in court with RLP. You don't say how many similar cases your lawyer has dealt with.

Your friend may be right that the cases on the RLP website aren't made up, but the point being made here. was that the cases seemed to relate to theft by employees and not members of the public.

My best, HB

My solicitor told me he sent me the papers on Fri, so they should be here by tomorrow at the latest. I asked him about what you have all said and he said that TK Maxx have already applied to the court for damages and that I need to make a decision about the case this week. I don't appreciate the slurs against my solicitor. He is a genuine bloke and helping me as a friend. He also said that the cases shown online on RLP's website are public record and hardly likely to be made up. I'll post the claim forms when I get them but I think I'm just going to pay.

The advice you will get on here is DIRECTLY related to what the court claim forms say, like Ive said earlier..NO_ONE HAS EVER SEEN A VALID CLAIM FORM FROM RLP/TK MAXX, thats why people are very curious to see one.

If you are determined to pay and already have a solictor, Im a bit puzzled as to why you are asking for advice, its no skin off your Solicitors nose if you pay up, it wont cost him anything but it may not be the right choice.

Why do you need to know this week, IF a valid court claim has been served, you have 14 days or even you send an acknowledegemnet of service (which you or your solicitor SHOULD of done) you will have 28 days before you send in a defence, even then its only the begininng there wil still be allocation.

Andy

My solicitor told me he sent me the papers on Fri, so they should be here by tomorrow at the latest.

 

I asked him about what you have all said and he said that TK Maxx have already applied to the court for damages and that I need to make a decision about the case this week.

 

I don't appreciate the slurs against my solicitor.

 

He is a genuine bloke and helping me as a friend.

 

He also said that the cases shown online on RLP's website are public record and hardly likely to be made up.

 

I'll post the claim forms when I get them but I think I'm just going to pay.

have already applied to the court for damages ...........

really

something smells here.

dx